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Posted: 15th June 2008 08:45

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The time mage...

I have a party of 5 time mages including ramza... now ramza is the only one with haste 2, and he casts on all 5 at the same time.

The thing that gets me is some of my members have been learning it just from him casting it. Just like how Ultima is learned. Can someone toss me some information on this trick? I never knew it existed (player for 6 years). I.E. - does it work with all spells/summons/ablites? Thanks in advance.

~Silv
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Posted: 15th June 2008 09:27

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Sounds like a new glitch to me... I've never had people learn a spell just by casting it on them, only that the other party members will earn 1/6 the JP of their teammates' class as well...
So with a party of time mages, you cast haste 2 on the party, and some of the other party members learned it? I'm gonna have to try this... what's your party equipped with, and what platform (GBA, Playstaion/Emulator, or PSP?) This sounds like it needs some research. thumbup.gif
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Posted: 15th June 2008 09:45

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Sure, here's some further details into how I'm setup at the moment.

Using the Playstation 2.

2 hired girls: 97 Brave / Faith 84 (lv.54 and lv.56)
2 hired guys: 97 Brave / Faith 84 (lv.54 and lv53)

All Equiped with:
Wizard Staff
Flash Hat
Wizard Robe
Magic Gauntlet

Giving the guys 16 MA and the girls 19 MA.

Ablities as were followed for all:
Time Magic
White Magic
Counter
Gained Jp UP
Move+2

Ranma was 97/97 Brave/Faith. Same as above cept Talk Skill and Golden Hairpin.

Everytime I would cast haste 2 with ranma on all of the characters at the same time, Ranma would sometimes jump up and down, and it would zoom in on who would learn, and give me the option - "Do you want to learn Haste 2?" Yes / No. Of course I would select yes lol. I've been at since I've posted and... 3/4 of my people have learned it already. The only who hasn't is one of my males.

Location: Fovoham Plains and Lenalia Plateau. Spot where I casted wasn't anything special, just gathered up around Ranma @ starting location. Which entrances are North for Lenaila and South entrance for Fovoham.

I've been trying to get some archer spawns out of the two locations for some Ultimas Bows (why ranma has talk skill). Oh, another tidbit is I'm on Chapter 3, if that helps as well I'm not sure.

I've done all the Propositiions just up before going to Orbonne Monastery with Ranma's sister Alma. She's in my group, though I never use her for battle (you can't because she's a Guest).

I'm rather shocked myself. The % to learn is still unknown, only done it 3 times. Kinda looks like 20%. Just a very rough guess. Keep my informed on what you guys know, and I'll keep you up to date as well on anything new!!

~Silv
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Posted: 15th June 2008 13:16

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This isn't a new bug. Check out the Battle Mechanics Guide here, and jump down to section [6.4] learning magic without jp.

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[6.4] learning magic without jp
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The spells Ultima and Zodiac must be learned 'blue mage style':  by
experiencing their effects.  However, other spells can be learned
in this manner as well.  In order for a unit to learn a spell blue mage
style, his or her current job MUST coincide with the spell's job of origin.
The learning unit must be a target of the spell, the spell must succeed on
the learning unit. Success is defined as dealing damage greater than zero
(for damaging attacks) or adding the intended status (for status-adding
attacks). If these conditions are met, the target will be given a chance
to learn the spell. This chance is equal to the chance that the ability
will be inherited from a dropped crystal (see section 6.1 for a table).

WIZARD             SUMMONER            03-SQUIRE (Ramza #3)
--------------     ----------------    --------------------
Fire 4             Bahamut             Ultima*        
Ice 4              Odin                              
Bolt 4             Leviathan           CLERIC        
                  Salamander          --------------------
PRIEST             Lich                Ultima*              
--------------     Cyclops
Cure 4             Zodiac*             ASSASSIN      
Protect 2                              --------------------
Shell 2                                Ultima*

TIME MAGE           --------------------------------------
--------------     | * indicates spells that can ONLY     |
Haste 2            |   be learned blue mage style         |
Slow 2              --------------------------------------


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Posted: 16th June 2008 12:22

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Thanks a lot True Stigma!!! thumbup.gif

Edit: Ohhhh korewa korewa... look what i found!

Here are these crystallization probabilities for all the game's
abilities.

Haste 2 20%


Quote (Silvanoshei)
I'm rather shocked myself. The % to learn is still unknown, only done it 3 times. Kinda looks like 20%. Just a very rough guess.


I'm just too good. lol wub.gif

This post has been edited by Silvanoshei on 16th June 2008 12:27
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