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If you had to choose one of the 14 playable characters to die in the game, which one would it be, and how?

The only one I can think of who might die with an understandable reason would be Terra. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want her to die, it might just make sense if she sacrificed herself to destory Kefka and save the rest of the party (and the world).

What do you think?

This post has been edited by Ultimaniac on 21st June 2008 17:40

Terra is young. I think Cyan, or even more likely, Strago would sacrifice themselves to save the world and their much younger comrades.

Setzer would sacrifice himself by flying the blackjack into some huge rocket sent by the intergalactic emperor Zehk'lar, to prepare for his large invasion of the World of ruin.

I honestly don't see the point of choosing characters that have to die.

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Shadow. Hell, he almost did. (Did if you were lazy.) It wouldn't be surprising at all if he tried it again.

It would be completely unexpected. For most of the game he is as mercenary as could be, comes only with the promise of money or out of necessity, leaves whenever he feels like it.

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On the Floating Continent, he leaves you because he sold his skills to the Empire and doesn't have the right to join you. However, when Celes is on the brink (literally), the Emperor dead and an evil clown destroys the balance of the planet, Shadow comes outta nowhere, saves Celes and pins Kefka with the statues. He can't stop it, but he CAN buy some time, so the only people who could stop Kefka eventually could escape.

Maybe it's me just reading too much into him and the ending. But he does regret his past, killing his partner (even if it was a mercy killing), abandoning his family, the aimless and almost amoral living (he doesn't seem to hold himself in much regard after selling his skills to the Empire, especially after they turn evil again.) But Shadow seems to want to redeem himself with by going out (so he can't run away again maybe) with a heroic act. So that way his friends and daughter (I don't think that he acknowledges her in any way though) could remember him as something more then an assassin, but rather a guy with at least some moral compass.

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Shadow actually can sacrifice his life to protect the party on the Floating Continent. I always thought it was a good way to make his character more interesting - to let him die.

For me, Celes should die. Just because I hate her. But I don't think he has the balls to sacrifice herself. Locke would, though. If he had the opportunity, he would love to die for the greater good.

I can easily imagine Cyan dying to save the others. Edgar would do it for the sake of the people of Figaro, because he's a good king. Sabin would have nothing against sacrificing himself, but wouldn't die anyway. As for Setzer, life is nothing more than a gamble, so he would risk his life all the way, but he would rather want to survive.

Mog and Umaro wouldn't die, because that wouldn't be fun. If Gogo died maybe we would finally know his/her/its real identity. Gau wouldn't sacrifice his life, I'm not sure he even knew what he was fighting for.

As for Terra, after she learned the miracle of life in Mobliz, she wouldn't want to die herself, but maybe she would do it, I'm not sure.

As for Strago and Relm, they would easily die to save the other one.

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There are several characters that I think would have very interesting deaths. However, you can't just kill anyone in a game. Their death has to have importance and reason.

In FFVI, one of the main themes is moving forward after loss, and learning how to love and live again. So that rules out several characters, on the grounds that their deaths would hurt this theme. I believe that Locke, for instance, could make a great sacrifice death if he hadn't gotten so close to rachel. Think- a depressed, guilty Locke, his world destroyed, his beloved gone. However, if Locke did sacrifice himself to help the party, it would go against the said theme.

So Locke is out. Celes, Cyan, and Setzer should be counted out for the same reason. Umaro, Mog and Gogo are unknown, so they would make poor candidates for death as well. Shadow already can die, and if he does, it is during a stop at the game in which you know very little about him, so his death isn't near as big of a plot moment. Gau's death wouldn't be very emotional, and Relm is too young to die, the other characters would do anything to prevent it.

Sabin=I think that Sabin could make a good death. Sabin could take the initiative and say that he doesn't have responsibility to Figaro anymore, and he could also say that this is the reason why he had trained- to save the party no matter what.

Strago=Another good choice for death. If Strago had died, it would have put Relm through a great deal of pain, which, to fit in with the story, she would recover from and move on in life. Also, while dying, Strago could have revealed Relm's father.

Terra=She's interesting. On one hand, I think that she is so important to the game that she shouldn't die. Without her, an important part of the party is lost. However, her death would mean the final destruction of the entire esper line (I know, in the game the esper in her died out, but still, this could be an alternate way to reach that conclusion), and be somewhat of a conclusion to the War of the Magi, in that espers no longer can be used for war (or anything...). Plus, she didn't have any strong personal connections. She loved the world and the children and her friends, but there wasn't any specifics. So I believe that she would be likely character to sacrifice.

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Locke because I hatehatehatehatehatehatehatehatehate him. Do I need a better reason than that? Well, he's reckless and constantly putting himself in harm's way in order to save the pretty girl, sooner or later that's going to catch up to you and he's going to end up dead.

If it has to be a significant death, I think it should be Terra, sacrificing herself to seal away magic forever so that the events that lead to the War of the Magi as well as this new corruption and destruction of the world though the Empire and Kefka. Besides, she seems the type to die for something valiant.

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Locke because I hatehatehatehatehatehatehatehatehate him.

Agree. But if it were something climatic I'd probably have to say either Terra or Sabin. I could see Sabin being like 'the world needs me and my training and I will save it' and Terra to sacrifice her esper half just to save mankind.

But if it were lolz we push u off of zee cliff, I'd pick Locke.

Terra. Not only because it would be interesting, but also because then I might finally feel emotion for her...

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correct me if i am wrong but

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doesnt shadow die anyway? he stays behind when kefkas tower is being destroyed. i would think that he would have died from this.

anyway, i would agree to sabin. the macho of the 2 brothers. to sacrafice himself to save his brother. the irony in the fact that they slipped away for so long, then met back up, then slipped away again, and rejoin each other only to have sabin die protecting him. would be a good plot twist, but it would also kinda suck. i use sabin all the time in the WOR.

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correct me if i am wrong but

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doesnt shadow die anyway? he stays behind when kefkas tower is being destroyed. i would think that he would have died from this.

anyway, i would agree to sabin. the macho of the 2 brothers. to sacrafice himself to save his brother. the irony in the fact that they slipped away for so long, then met back up, then slipped away again, and rejoin each other only to have sabin die protecting him. would be a good plot twist, but it would also kinda suck. i use sabin all the time in the WOR.

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If you wait on him, he comes back to you in the World of Ruin.

My very first playthrough, I thought Sabin would eat it while holding up the building to keep it from collapsing. I'm glad he didn't, as he was one of my favorites in the game.

If I had designed the game's storyline, I would have killed off one character who had a lot of heartstrings attached to the player. This isn't to inflict pain on the player, as I would want them to enjoy the game, but I have always felt that experiencing a wide range of emotions in a game is very beneficial to one's overall outlook of the game.

In my case, I would have killed off Locke. He is a fun, charming character, and one that is pretty solid for you for the duration of the game.

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Ah, very interesting choices.

I agree that some characters (Celes, Cyan, Gau, Relm) shouldn't die, because...well, Celes can't because she doesn't really have a good reason too.

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Plus, she already tried to kill herself (if you didn't save Cid), so it wouldn't fit for her to die anyway. Her surviving her attempted suicide and the bird nursing her back to health (I think that's what it did) was a sign that she was supposed to live on.

Cyan can't, because that would just make his story TOO miserable.

Gau can't, because it just wouldn't make much sense. It might not seem significant enough, too.

Relm's too young, and Strago (and maybe her father) would be too heartbroken to carry on.

Shadow does make sense, I can see him dying for the greater good.

In more detail, after thinking about it...

Celes is out. She COULD die, maybe right at the end, but it would kill some of the theme of hope even in the worst circumstances. Plus, how much would it suck for Locke to lose his second girl? Way to mindf'ck him.

Locke is out. If he died then Celes' I'm-gonna-make-it thing would be gone.

Terra, as I said, would make for an interesting death right at the end. She did find love, after all, so it wouldn't be too tragic. It might actually add some meat to her character.

Gogo, Umaro, and Mog are out because there's not enough attachment.

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Shadow's was a bad ending. I felt like a death sacrificing for someone (maybe Relm, and that would reveal why he might do such a thing) or something would have suited his theme much better than suicide. I mean, isn't suicide running away in itself?

Setzer might have been a good one. He could have gambled it all, and went out in a blaze of glory. Kind of something similar to Cid in FFIV... XD

Strago might have been a good one - dying for Relm, perhaps. But I can't see that being as heartbreaking as any of the others...maybe just because I'm not particularly fond of him.

Cyan would have made a great death. It would have made his story less miserable, actually, because he would have been reunited with his family. But perhaps better if he and one of the characters had become especially good friends, first.

Gau is out - his purpose is mostly comical relief. Him dying would defeat that purpose.

Relm is out - if she didn't have Strago, it would be different, but we've already seen what's become of him when he thinks her to be gone. Rather than the heartbreaking "ohhh" it would just be flat depressing. Also, she's comical relief too! Killing off the comical relief characters just kind of sucks.

Sabin would have made an awesome death. Think about it - Edgar sacrificed his life (more or less, his FREE life) for his brother to be happy and live the way he wanted. I could easily see Sabin sacrificing himself, too, like with his ACTUAL life, to kind of "return the favor", because I'm sure he really loves his brother, not only because they're twins, but also because they're all they've got left. It'd be bad for Edgar, to lose his whole family, and a really heartbreaking death, but I could see it.

Edgar dying COULD happen, but as I see it he's already a character who's made lots of sacrifices. I don't see it making a great impact on the story the way Sabin's death would.

And I thiiiink that's everybody. XD Probably out of all those the best choice for a death would be Sabin, but that's just my opinion. I mean, obviously any of them would die for their cause, but the deaths of some characters would further the story, and the deaths of others would just kill it. (Sorry for that pun...)

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correct me if i am wrong but

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doesnt shadow die anyway? he stays behind when kefkas tower is being destroyed. i would think that he would have died from this.

anyway, i would agree to sabin. the macho of the 2 brothers. to sacrafice himself to save his brother. the irony in the fact that they slipped away for so long, then met back up, then slipped away again, and rejoin each other only to have sabin die protecting him. would be a good plot twist, but it would also kinda suck. i use sabin all the time in the WOR.

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If you wait on him, he comes back to you in the World of Ruin.

My very first playthrough, I thought Sabin would eat it while holding up the building to keep it from collapsing. I'm glad he didn't, as he was one of my favorites in the game.

If I had designed the game's storyline, I would have killed off one character who had a lot of heartstrings attached to the player. This isn't to inflict pain on the player, as I would want them to enjoy the game, but I have always felt that experiencing a wide range of emotions in a game is very beneficial to one's overall outlook of the game.

In my case, I would have killed off Locke. He is a fun, charming character, and one that is pretty solid for you for the duration of the game.

i meant kefkas tower at the END of the game. not the floating cont.

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If Terra did sacrifice herself; that'll make her Aeris lol

And, yes, I agree with Terra dying.

If i had to choose it would be Umaro. Hes really useless, probably wouldnt last as long and it wouldnt effect the story or anyone except Mog since he was his Master.

I can actually see Mog dying and it being emotional...I mean, he's so furry and cute and cool...

I can see it now: Kefka captures the entire party, except for Mog, who manages to escape, then return and rescue everyone, before he is killed by Kefka.

I can see Relm, Celes, and Terra kneeling over him, sobbing, "Mog....."

I also think it would be a cool twist if Strago died.
(no offense to strago fans )
My point is simply that, on his deathbed, revealing the identity of shadow to relm would have probably blown us out of the water!
It would also have been cool if General Leo stuck around as a playable character. I would have loved to see the overall interaction between him & terra.

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This post has been edited by Neal on 7th July 2008 18:40

I've also thought about how it would be if Strago died...and told Relm about Shadow...

But how would Relm be able to handle that? I mean, she's only ten, and the person who raised her like his own child has just died and told her that her father is some emotionless (apparently) assassin who abandoned her...how could she take that?

Maybe if Shadow finally changed, and wanted to take care of Relm...but still, that would be very frightening...and tremendously sad.

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I've also thought about how it would be if Strago died...and told Relm about Shadow...

But how would Relm be able to handle that? I mean, she's only ten, and the person who raised her like his own child has just died and told her that her father is some emotionless (apparently) assassin who abandoned her...how could she take that?

Maybe if Shadow finally changed, and wanted to take care of Relm...but still, that would be very frightening...and tremendously sad.

I have to agree. If Shadow lived on he might've had a chance to mend things with Stragus and Relm.

What would really suck is if in the end EVERYONE died besides Celes.
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I don't think I could take any main characters dying. I practically cried when Shadow stayed behind.
Me: (Watching the ending scene) "... ??? !!! Omigosh Shadow!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *starts sobbing* He didn't even tell Relm he was her father!"
(Yes I did know about Shadow and Relm on my first play.)

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Yeah, I was sad about Shadow staying behind, too.

I SUPPOSE they could make a Locke death believable...I mean, Rachel sacrificed herself (sort of) to save him, so Locke could sacrifice himself to save Celes.

Of course, Celes would be sad, but she's a tough girl, she'd move on...probably.

...Then again, we do know she doesn't cope well with the deaths of those close to her...

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all of the characters die, leaving kefka to rule the world. or sabin gets revenge and he rules the world.

seriously, cyan makes sense because he is reunited with his family.

shadow is too obvious, you would expect it.

locke's death would be pretty powerful.

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I think that any character had the opportunity to die. What they were doing was pretty dangerous.

I think that Shadow had the greatest chance of dying, and I wouldn't mind. Like I said, all of them had a huge chance of dying during the journey, but Shadow would always stick to his mercenary job, even after the end of it. It's said that those who live by the sword die by the sword.

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I heard that if u get all of Shadow's dreams you can make him live... but im too lazy anywayz, doesn't gogo die at the end??? i saw the gba ending on youtube and while mimicing celes, he falls... and he doesnt show up on the airship

i think Shadow was supposed to die because he stayed in the tower.

i agree with Harlequin. Shadow seemed as if he was gonna die anyway, because he lived a rough lifestyle. come to think of it, his death would be better for a sequel because you could have Relm's reaction or something.

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I heard that if u get all of Shadow's dreams you can make him live... but im too lazy anywayz, doesn't gogo die at the end??? i saw the gba ending on youtube and while mimicing celes, he falls... and he doesnt show up on the airship

That rumor, I heard, is completely false.

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Both Shadow's and Gogo's deaths are heavily implied. Gogo just...fell through, basically.

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Both Shadow's and Gogo's deaths are heavily implied. Gogo just...fell through, basically.

I'm pretty sure Gogo (and Umaro) are seen in the very end. They're at the very back of the airship, along with Gau and Mog, seen only right before 'The End' when it show one last panorama of the airship. It's pretty short, so you have to look for it.

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it is just a rumor. Shadow stays no matter what. i think Gogo is alive, you can see his eyes blink.

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