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Who Should Have Lived?
Cyan's Family (drink bottled water) [ 8 ]  [16.00%]
Gestahl (somehow......) [ 5 ]  [10.00%]
Daryl (land on island and made friends with football) [ 5 ]  [10.00%]
Leo (survived Kefka's sword) [ 16 ]  [32.00%]
That soldier who makes you send his Girlfriend stuff. [ 9 ]  [18.00%]
Cid (although you can stop this) [ 1 ]  [2.00%]
Kefka (miraculously, now lives on a farm in Yorkshire) [ 6 ]  [12.00%]
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Posted: 27th January 2008 13:42

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There are probably more but I haven't played in a while. Feel free to add more.

I reckon Leo. Then he could've joined your party. biggrin.gif
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Posted: 27th January 2008 14:46

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I mean seriously, any of these characters surviving would spoil the game.
Saving Cids life is tedious and quite pointless, since it omitts a very important, very emotional scene and fails to deliver any message or drive to the player.
Everybody else, thank heavens, just inevitably dies.

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Posted: 27th January 2008 17:28

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In a way, I agree with SM, but I think Cyan's family is the biggest heartbreaker...though the game would be VERY VERY different if they lived.

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Posted: 27th January 2008 20:26

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Well, let's play these out:

If Cyan's family had lived, Cyan wouldn't have rushed the imperial base. He instead probably would have fled the castle after the king released him from his responsibilities, and hung out in hiding, defending his family from imperial troopers. Sabin wouldn't have had his help escaping the imperial base, but may have gotten away with it anyway, especially if he had Shadow along. He may have eventually gotten over Baron Falls to the Veldt, but would have struggled to recruit Gau. The party would only be able to pick him up much later, leaving them severely handicapped at Narshe.

Presuming things were eventually able to move forward more or less as planned, Cyan could join the party after Doma is liberated in the peace talks, thinking his family would be safe there. I'd guess after Narshe, the party would split up into a group to chase after Terra (likely led by Locke) and a group to chase down Sabin (led by Edgar.) Actually, this could be an interesting plot in the game - you'd have to sneak into South Figaro, get to a boat, and hunt up and down the coast until you found a fairly ragged Sabin on the eastern continent. I suppose it's possible that you'd find both Sabin and Cyan together, leading a Doman resistance.

Whew.

Geshtal's survival (and discovery) would lead the party to have to decide whether or not to trust him. Once discovered, I'm sure he'd plead the error of his was and beg for a chance to help make things right. Though if you bring him to meet Kefka in the final battle, he could have a change of heart. But he could well not - Kefka did kick him off of a floating continent. Kefka wouldn't likely make a play for his allegiance, anyway.

Daryl would knock Setzer out of the game's plot entirely if he found her before he joined up; if he finds her after they dig up the Falcon, then she likely joins up.

Leo surviving means a new party member to take on the floating continent - I wouldn't be surprised if he, Celes, and Terra were the only people you could take up there. If he survived the fall, he'd likely be trying to assemble a loyalist army in the new world - there's at least one surviving imperial trooper, Leo could recruit some new ones. He might not join the party after all - if he were recovering instead of attacking at the end of the WoB, he could lead a frontal attack on the tower in the WoR along the lines of the dwarves in FF2/4.

The soldier surviving would keep Cyan a little bit more confused - he might be laying low and not ready to join up with you right away. I'd guess he'd find his way to Doma, independently, eventually, and would join after the dream sequences.

Cid can live, and doesn't do much. He really should join the party, or at least be able to do SOMETHING with magicite. Maybe you can unlock extra spells or speed them up (for a cost?) by visiting him?

Kefka...well, that's a whole sequel.

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Posted: 27th January 2008 21:09

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Kefka! That way, since he lives in Yorkshire.... I could visit him! YAAAAAY!
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Posted: 28th January 2008 02:37

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The thing is, if any of these people were to survive, it would ruin the plot. FF6 is a lot about pain, and to take that away would ruin the story. based on this, the only person that could survive is Gesthal. he could survive as a redeemed man, sorry for his sins.

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Posted: 28th January 2008 03:31

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Leo would've made an interesting (permanent) addition to your team. His death also made me kinda sad.

Second is Cyan's family. Nobody should have to see their wife and son die. sad.gif
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Posted: 28th January 2008 04:40

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Leo ftw, for the reason silvermike said and because i felt like it was a cheap shot on how kefka killed him, it should have been more epic for such a brilliant man.
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Posted: 28th January 2008 14:58

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Quote (Imperial Scout @ 28th January 2008 06:40)
Leo ftw, for the reason silvermike said and because i felt like it was a cheap shot on how kefka killed him, it should have been more epic for such a brilliant man.

Kefka is all about cheap shots. He's not below stabbing you in the crotch when you think he'll stab you in the back. He's a sore loser and a general pain. Epic doesn't suit him, really. Not at that point anyway.


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Posted: 28th January 2008 18:42

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I can't see any of them surviving, I just can't think of a way the story would work right if any of them had survived, so I null voted
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Posted: 28th January 2008 21:13

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I pick the soldier because, maybe he had of survived you could of recruited him the in WoR, and maybe his Girlfriend would come too.
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Posted: 28th January 2008 22:42

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See? Now this is hard. Since I want both Kefka and Leo to live.

Leo because I think he will join your party, and there might be some changes in the story.

Kefka because, its just fun seeing him. thumbup.gif

But in the end, I voted Leo.

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Posted: 29th January 2008 00:25

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Quote (SilverMaduin @ 28th January 2008 14:58)
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Kefka is all about cheap shots. He's not below stabbing you in the crotch when you think he'll stab you in the back. He's a sore loser and a general pain. Epic doesn't suit him, really. Not at that point anyway.



Yeah i know that but it could have been more like this instance, Kefka is about to kill all the returners at stragos town and leo tells everyone to run while he holds them off, and then he dies saving them.
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Posted: 29th January 2008 18:52

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so many replies shifty.gif


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Rachel (Locke's biatch - lived......somehow)


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Posted: 30th January 2008 00:11

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I'm going to say a surviving, healthy Rachel would bust the game. Locke's motivation for hating the Empire is her death, so if he saved her at that critical moment, then he's not giving up his life of thieving and treasure hunting.

Later on, he's Edgar's link to the Returners - though I imagine they might have been able to find someone else to fill that role, albeit less successfully. More importantly, he saves Terra in Narshe. If they managed to get at her in the mines, then the Returner effort is severely crippled: it becomes Edgar trying to maintain a resistance against a growing Imperium.

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Posted: 30th January 2008 18:42

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I would have to say Leo should have lived. Regardless of what happened, he would have helped your party instead of Kefka/Gestahl. Cyan's family wouldn't of done good living because then he would not have been enraged to fight and be against the Empire. Gestahl, I think he would have been a traitor numerous times. Pretended to help all the party members try and stop the espers and pretended to stop the war against the rest of the world. If Daryl did not die, Setzer wouldn't have buried the Falcon in the tomb and it would not have been good if they didn't have transportation by air to complete the many quests in the World of Ruin. The Falcon was safe from the Warring Triad destroying the surface of the World of Balance. That soldier who makes you send his girlfriend stuff because his death helped her to realize that she needed to move on and so did Cyan. Cid, you can stop his death (No opinion, either way.). Kefka, shouldn't live unless some miracle happened and his evil ways were vanquished and all he did was good then on. Again, I think Leo should have lived.



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Posted: 3rd February 2008 03:43

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Quote (silvermike @ 27th January 2008 15:26)
Daryl would knock Setzer out of the game's plot entirely if he found her before he joined up; if he finds her after they dig up the Falcon, then she likely joins up.


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What if Daryl never crashed to begin with, but instead became your primary help transportation wise instead of Setzer? She seems like a sport that way. Then you could have had Airship races, and seen a whole new relationship evolving between her and Setzer. At any rate, it's neat to suppose what might have happened.

To tell the truth though, Cyan's family is the one I regret most. I almost feel guilty when I play it, as if I didn't get Cyan to his family fast enough to save them. Poor guy. I guess he should have known something was up when his family turned out to be palete swaps of generic NPC's though.

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Posted: 3rd February 2008 15:53

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i picked the soldier because it seemed such a waste sending all those letters and finding out later that its inevitable that he dies
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Posted: 4th February 2008 21:32

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The only reason I sent his GF those letters is b/c I thought he would make it and I wanted her to wait for him.... to no avail.
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Posted: 4th February 2008 21:59

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You do get a tintinabar if you send enough letters from Mobliz. They guy gives it to you from the bed after sending maybe five messages. You can later trade it for an exp. egg at Dragon's Neck if you desire

I did not pick anyone. The story would be different if any of them lived. Although I have to wonder about folks like Bannon, the Elder of Narshe, and Arvis. Did they actually die? We never found out...
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Posted: 5th February 2008 16:21

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If I had to choose someone...hmm, I dunno.

Maybe the wounded soldier, just because he's not incredibly important...

It would be kinda sweet if, along with sending the soldier's girlfriend letters, Cyan was also looking for the soldier, who was still alive.

It would be a really nice scene if Cyan found the soldier and took him back to Lola. smile.gif
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Posted: 15th February 2008 23:30

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Hmmmmm

I'd say Kefka due to fact I've always wanted a sequal for Final Fantasy VI.

Plus since he's such a good villain he should be allowed to live for a sequal biggrin.gif.

I mean come on! Look at Sephiroth happy.gif

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Posted: 16th February 2008 00:49
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I voted for Ghestal because i think he in party would be powerful Wizard and hopefully his special ability would be some other magic learned from other sphers drained before the known ones slur!!

But also i hope they make this twisted history that he was saved by te IAF or something like that to make a sequel, who knows XD
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Posted: 16th February 2008 22:22

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Ghestal would make the WoR a little more interesting. Of course, Kefka would end up killing him anyway, at some point in his lust for power and control, but Ghestal living on a bit longer would have extended that fight a little bit. Perhaps we would get some much needed dirt on the Empire.

People die because they just...do. It's natural for people to die, and to have a game with so much war, it would be insane if none of the main characters dealt with death. Many deaths were essential in plot and characterization, but I think that Ghestahl's had little effect on anybody.

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Posted: 17th February 2008 05:06

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thumbup.gif thumbdown.gif Leo as well, he should have lived. I mean, he would have surpassed (Dare I say it) Shadow! ph34r.gif sa-science.gif .... sleep.gif *Sigh*

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Posted: 17th February 2008 17:38

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Another reason for Leo living - possible romance with Terra?
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Posted: 17th February 2008 21:16

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Quote (mastergornX @ 17th February 2008 05:06)
thumbup.gif  thumbdown.gif Leo as well, he should have lived. I mean, he would have surpassed (Dare I say it) Shadow!  ph34r.gif  sa-science.gif .... sleep.gif *Sigh*


But why should he live? I admit the man is cool, and I was sad when he died, even if I did know beforehand. But things would be different had he survived.

Through his words on the ship to Thamasa, he told Terra words that she remembered even before Kefka's defeat. His death, followed by her experience with the orphaned children, made her realize what love could be.


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  Another reason for Leo living - possible romance with Terra?



I see your point, and I mean no offense. I could see Terra and Leo as a possible ship, but a the love that Terra found was not a romance. That was the point that the creators were selling. She finds love, but not romance, and I like that about the game. (Independent women rock!)

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Posted: 17th February 2008 23:19

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I voted the soldier, because i felt bad for him and his girlfriend. It was such a small incident showing the ravages of the war, and all they wanted was to be together sad.gif

But none at all wouldve been just as good because of the previous "Plot-ruining" reasons previously posted.

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Posted: 18th February 2008 01:09

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I think it should have been leo.

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Posted: 18th February 2008 01:40
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I voted the soldier. I felt sorry for him and it would have been nice if he lived.

Cyan's family, Daryl, Rachel, Leo and Cid's death were important events that advanced the story and led to some of my favorite scenes (i.e Cyan busting into the Imperial camp bent on revenge)

Gestahl or Kefka's survival could have opened the door for a potential sequel, which could be good or bad, personally with how the sequels to VII reflected poorly plotwise on such a great game, I wouldn't want the same to happen to VI
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