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Quote (NeoEx-Death @ 14th April 2008 20:31)

Oh, and from now on I will refer to X-2 as "Final Fantasy For Girls" or FFFG.

Aw now, come on, thats a little harsh. To girls in general I mean. The game sucks XP

Reading over this topic again though, I guess it depends which games you played first. If you played the original ones first the chances of hating newer ones like VII is higher I guess, and if you played VII or VIII first you'd probably dislike IX. But looking at all the games seperately they're all good in their own way, some of them are just different. Which in all honesty pisses me off sometimes XP But who am i to talk lol

This post has been edited by ktk3 on 2nd May 2008 05:31

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Quote (NeoEx-Death @ 14th April 2008 20:31)

Oh, and from now on I will refer to X-2 as "Final Fantasy For Girls" or FFFG.

Aw now, come on, thats a little harsh. To girls in general I mean. The game sucks XP

Reading over this topic again though, I guess it depends which games you played first. If you played the original ones first the chances of hating newer ones like VII is higher I guess, and if you played VII or VIII first you'd probably dislike IX. But looking at all the games seperately they're all good in their own way, some of them are just different. Which in all honesty pisses me off sometimes XP But who am i to talk lol

Maybe that's why so many people hate 8. Because it came after 6 and 7, which are two of the best games of all time in my opinion and many others' opinions (IGN for example). If it was after a few of the less popular ones it would be more liked.

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Quote (laszlow @ 12th February 2008 01:51)

FF II for the NES.

I agree. I'm also glad I rented the PSP remake, because it still didn't capture my
heart, even though they drastically improved its look.

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Enjoyed reading everyone's take on the early FFs, though. And after being
reminded of FFVI, I pulled out the disc; there's a great game that needs a PSP
update.

This post has been edited by A11smart on 1st July 2008 03:22

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Putting the A's in W lm rt: A11smart, Jobclass: Retailer.

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I have to say, it's what - 7 years? - since FFX's release, and the only complaint I've heard people muster against it is that the voice acting is bad. Why do so many people not like this game? Name me one thing you don't like about it other than the voice acting (which wasn't that bad).

Let me tell you why this not liking of FFX for the voice acting is lame. FFX was the first FF to use voice acting. Of course it may not be perfect, but it was a first attempt. FF7 was the first 3D FF. You want to talk lousy? Let's talk FF7's controls. No analog control possible, still only have up/down/left/right with O to run. A 3D game with 2D character manipulation. Weak.

Sure, FFX had it's low points. The laughing scene is awful, but it's not a deal breaker. Let's examine its positives. Good graphics, good play control, good soundtrack, good storyline, good characters, good battle system, good ability system. It has all the critical elements that make FF what it is (except for maybe Moogles).

I would consider it a magnificent irony when the PS3 version of FF7 comes out if Cloud is voiced by the same guy that did Tidus, Tifa is voiced by the same girl that did Yuna, and Barret is voiced by Auron's voice actor. Then we'll really see if it's the voice acting that turned you off to FFX.

Honestly, if you don't like FFX, you don't like it, but let's see some actual criticisms instead of "the voice acting was so bad, I only played for 10 minutes."

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On topic, I think that FF7 and FF8 did more to harm the series than help it. FF2 for NES must have been horrible, because it's Dawn of Souls/Origins remakes were still pretty dull. I guess the difference is that FF7 took the series to uncharted territories where FF2 isn't that different from FF1 except that there's a bit more storyline. I guess FF2 ftw, with FF7 not far behind.

This post has been edited by Asylum Outpatient on 1st July 2008 15:27

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You don't scare me, you talking blobs of oozing slop! I am impervious to pain!

Okay, to start out, too many people are flaming my #2 favorite game, so I have to say something:

To the FFX-2 Haters: Congratulations! You've officially stated that you have vast quantities of knowledge in the realm of story writing, including making a story compelling and interesting.

You've also just proved that you are all ****ing clueless to what constitutes a good RPG engine. The job system was unrivaled in X-2, even if it had some tacky ways of going about changes and names. The advent of a real-time ATB system was amazing, even allowing for more powerful attacks if you can manage to compound them on top of each other. And it's really too bad, you know, because since everyone and their dog has decided to flame X-2 on its plot (not gameplay), the greatness of their concept for a new-age job system has died along with it.

You all did this. Congratulations.


So what if it was a tacky story full of girl power, at least it's something to laugh at...
And I'd rather laugh at my heroes/heroines than watch them get impaled with a big sword by Sephiroth.

And BTW, I voted VI, because when I want to play a game, I play a game, not read an eBook.

You want to talk about a crappy game? Let's talk about that game that everyone has their "favorite characters" from with all their fantastic relationships and what-not, and then say, "Oh! You can't play with that character right now! You have to wade through waist-high BS about a character you could care less about because, gosh darn it, they're important too!"

You know why I liked VII? Cloud was always in my team.
You know why I liked VIII? Squall was always in my team.
You know why I liked V? Butz, Lenna, Faris, Galuf/Kara was always in my team.

And granted, there are points in the game where they're not. Small plot twists to keep the game from being too monotonous. But nowhere near the annoyance that is, "Play the same tract of time 3 times in different places!"

Sorry about the rant, but X-2 haters kinda get to me when they gather too much.

With X-2, Square made a diamond, made it look different, placed it in the rough, and watched people crap all over it.

Either that, or maybe since the ATB couldn't be turned off in the traditional sense, all you haters just got your faces pwned in at the first boss.

IDK... I out.

This post has been edited by leilong on 1st July 2008 16:09

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Wow... poor VIII...

For the numbers I've played, I have to say II. Why?

1) Poor landscape design
The Beginning Area should be filled with easy things to kill. in this one you can wander too far and encounter enemies you can't run from and are annilated...

2) Odd leveling system
It's an older game, but they tried to be too inivative like the Second Zelda game and made it too different.

3) Fake rooms
It's vary annoying to enter a door and end up in the middle and be attacked.

Do I hate the game? No. I'd like to see the Present option when talking to people and the Emperor Fight with him throwing elixars on himself shows he knew what to spend his money on.

VII's overhyped... it's fun but overhyped.

For X, the voices can be a little on the annoying side, but listen to the old PS games and Thank God they've come a long way...

You What to know the REAL worst Final Fantasy?
Ever play Mystic Quest?

This post has been edited by Starsoul-klr on 13th October 2008 07:04

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Quote (Asylum Outpatient @ 1st July 2008 10:26)

I have to say, it's what - 7 years? - since FFX's release, and the only complaint I've heard people muster against it is that the voice acting is bad.  Why do so many people not like this game?  Name me one thing you don't like about it other than the voice acting (which wasn't that bad).

Let me tell you why this not liking of FFX for the voice acting is lame.  FFX was the first FF to use voice acting.  Of course it may not be perfect, but it was a first attempt.  FF7 was the first 3D FF.  You want to talk lousy?  Let's talk FF7's controls.  No analog control possible, still only have up/down/left/right with O to run.  A 3D game with 2D character manipulation.  Weak. 
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Honestly, if you don't like FFX, you don't like it, but let's see some actual criticisms instead of "the voice acting was so bad, I only played for 10 minutes." 

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]If you wanna talk annoying protagonists, 10 takes it. None of the characters are believable, although perhaps Seymour is just over the top enough to be. The love story is really pushed in this one without much of a logical lead-in (even 8's was better) and the game itself is pretty much just a string of cinemas and boss battles broken up with some walking and (albeit) challenging random battles. To top it off, the game really ends quickly. The upside of course is that the battle system is awesome, and the Sphere Grid is inventive, if a bit tedious.

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Life goes on, it surely will,
Without me and I wonder:
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Life goes on...

Quote (A11smart @ 1st July 2008 03:05)

Enjoyed reading everyone's take on the early FFs, though. And after being
reminded of FFVI, I pulled out the disc; there's a great game that needs a PSP
update.

No. FFVI shouldn't get a PSP update, but instead deserves to be remade on a third-generation console (for I really want the best graphics for it and so they could finally get a wardrobe change).

All of the Final Fantasy games are different in their own right. All have their good qualities (you have to admit that even games most of you guys hate have their pros) and have their bad qualities. I admit I did like FFX-2 for it's battle system, FFX had no irksome flaws, and FFVIII had a great love story. I guess I'm delusional.

The thing is, the first Final Fantasy is the worst, because they've improved so much now. Compared to the other games, it's just...lacking. It takes me a while to figure out what to do next because the game barely gives you any clues, the story line isn't even interesting, and because you choose your own characters they don't even have any personality. Some FF characters are annoying, but wouldn't you rather have an important part of a game than not having it at all?

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"All roads are connected somehow. And they all lead to a time of salvation, where imprisoned souls will be freed. They all lead to the end of the world, and a new beginning." -ODV

I null voted.. I couldn't decide honestly.. I don't hate any of them enough to say they are the worst.. I wasn't crazy about II so I guess if I HAD to choose one, that would be it. My fav is probably a tie between IV and VII.
I haven't played XI so I can't say that it was bad but I have seen it and from what I've seen, it's not my idea of final fantasy. If I had played it I probably would have voted for it but I haven't so...

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Climhazzard is the timeless evil robot who runs some of the cool stuff at CoN (mostly logging chat, since there are no quizzes at the moment), all the while watching and waiting for his moment to take over the world. -Tiddles

I am really surprised at all of the X-2 hate. I don't think it was a bad game at all; I have to agree with leilong on some points. The ATB system was really handy and made battles quicker. I also thought the dresspheres were rather creative. I admit, there were some parts of the game that had me laughing at the cheesyness, but the several scenes really didn't ruin the game. I wasn't bored, and it was flexible as you had an airship in the beginning. I don't know, just because it strayed from the previous games doesn't automatically make it horrible. Guess people don't like that. I guess some would be happy if it was just stripped of the FF title, and was a separate game altogether.

Alright, I conclude that before I start writing multiple paragraphs.

I don't hate any of the games, but out of all I played, VIII was the one I was most disappointed with so I voted for it. I can't consider it a really bad game, but there's things about it I wasn't happy with. The characters didn't really interest me except Selphie (I loved her personality). The junction system I didn't like at all; in fact, it ended up screwing me over in the end. I planned the final battle horribly, equipping only three characters with GFs. This left the other characters practically useless, and I ended up with all of my characters dying except Squall and Irvine. For the majority of the sequence of fights, it was just those two, and I was still able to beat the game. This ties in with another reason - the characters being reduced to their Limit Breaks. I was initially amazed as Squall did his, with 9999 damage each hit. But then it got boring, and the boss fight was just a constant Limit Break after Limit Break because I only had two characters. It was just dull.

And one more...the love story. I was so appalled at the love story in this game. (Sorry Harlequin ><) Rinoa was all lovey for him, but to me he didn't seem interested. And then suddenly, BAM 'Oh jesus Rinoa you mean so much to me'. It was just sudden how he developed feelings for her, so it wasn't really well planned to me.

So you know, with those thoughts in mind I think I had the best time of my life when I didn't bother to catch her when we were in space. I was too busy laughing at the screen.

In conclusion, I don't hate VIII, but there are things I would definitely change.

This post has been edited by Kanariya674 on 17th July 2008 01:51

Quote (leilong @ 1st July 2008 16:08)

Why Final Fantasy 10-2 is great

You have my utmost respect, Final Fantasy 10-2 had an AMAZING battle system, unrivaled by anything else in the series, attacks either being instant with subsequent wait, or casting time with you commands returned the minute the spell was used

The random position was a nice touch too and I loved the return of th class system, sure the story wasn't amazing, but it had it's moments and did exactly what it was meant to do.... Be fun!

Quote (Dark Paladin Danny @ 17th July 2008 16:02)

You have my utmost respect, Final Fantasy 10-2 had an AMAZING battle system, unrivaled by anything else in the series, attacks either being instant with subsequent wait, or casting time with you commands returned the minute the spell was used

The random position was a nice touch too and I loved the return of th class system, sure the story wasn't amazing, but it had it's moments and did exactly what it was meant to do.... Be fun!

I can agree with you on that statement for the most part.. I thought really well of the battle and class systems and the way they played out.. if it were done in FFX it would have been better considering X-2 had almost no interesting story what so ever and the percentage thing was so dumb.. "get this much done or you can't see the full ending.. lame!

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Climhazzard is the timeless evil robot who runs some of the cool stuff at CoN (mostly logging chat, since there are no quizzes at the moment), all the while watching and waiting for his moment to take over the world. -Tiddles

I hought you could, ya just had to whistle in the farplane

im gonna get shot here from all sides: i loved VIII (thats 8 everybody)
I hated X(10)

8 has a complex story and a harda** boss at the end (that i managed to beat)!
10 was annoying. the leveling system goes against more or less every other ff

8 had the ragnorok.
10 had no controllable ship.

8 had a intricate (and funny) love story involving everyone trying to push these two people together, jus tto get squall to show emotion
10 had a love story between two people that happened to be there at the time.

i have (unlike everyone else here) nothing against X-2. 6 and 7 i liked, but this isnt a vote for the best. im feeling rather down looking at the responses about 8 :-(

blahblahblah

if anyone agrees with anything i said, please back me up. im feeling lonely.

babbling over.

This post has been edited by Illidan14 on 18th July 2008 15:52

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Whats up?

Well, I don't like any of the 3D games (except IX, and even that was so-so), but I'm casting my vote for VII specifically because it started the trend of graphical superiority, with gameplay and/or story being sacrificed on the altar of making things look pretty.

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Final Fantasy VIII.
No doubt.
Story line was alright, but it didn't have what almost all other FF games had...A great battle system.
Enemies that Lv. up with you do not sit right with me

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Music. defines. society.

I null voted, because I've only played VII, VIII, and Tactics and I enjoyed them all very much. VIII is actually my favourite, but it seems I'm in the minority... oh well... to each their own.

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FF games completed: I (psp), II (psp), III (DS), IV (psp), V (GBA), VI (GBA), VII, VIII, IX, X, XI: Nations-Rhapsodies of Vana'diel, XII, XIII, XIV, XV.
Spin-offs: FFIV: Interlude & The After Years, Crisis Core: FFVII, X-2, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, Type-0 HD, Dissidia, Dissidia 012, and Tactics (original & WotL).
Enjoyed them all.

where's Mystic Quest????

MQ
X-2
V

from lamest to not as ame but still pretty ghey

Honestly, I hated 8. I thought that the game felt really awkward and the story was just sewn together at the last minute. 7 was good, but near the end it started to feel hurried (I'm pretty sure that Square was just trying to finish it quickly before the release date). And I don't know why everyone hates 9; it was the first FF game I ever played, and I absolutely loved it.

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~Barack Obama

Why did I choose 1 I must be crazy but I don't really hate any FF games but 1 has no real main character. Unless you were to look at the villain Garland but there is no main hero. So I said 1 but I do love it despite choosing it because it had good game play a good story for lack of a main hero and it started a series I love.

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I actually didn't think X was that bad. Yeah sure, the characters and dialouge was atrocious, but they were trying out voice acting for the first time, which was a decent attempt at least. I thought it was still enjoyable to go through, and i liked the idea of the battle system, but in reality it made the game too easy.

And yeah, people will jump on the I hate FFVII because everyone loves it, but at the time it came out, it thought it was a blast. Nowadays everyone seems to be in love with sephiroth, but back in the day when no one knew hwo he was, and i first encountered him, is was great.

Possible spoilers: highlight to view

(also aeris dying actually made me sad)

FFVIII was different, and maybe too different from what FF fans expected. I hated extracting spells and some of the other things really bugged me, but overall i think it wasn't that bad.

I thought FFIX was the worse by far. It seemed very "dumbed down" compared to the depth of some of the others, and i couldn't stand much of any of the characters. The story was boring and Kuja didnt impress me at all. The music wasn't very impressive either.

FFVI is the best.

i think that the only reason people dont like 8 is that it came after 7. it really wasnt bad.

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Quote (BlitzSage @ 9th November 2008 01:30)

i think that the only reason people dont like 8 is that it came after 7. it really wasnt bad.

I can agree to to that. A lot of people jumped on the FF bandwagon after playing 7.

I think 9 had great music. Sure the characters weren't real looking and the villain Kuja isn't a household name like Sephiroth who I hate even though I like 7. But Final Fantasy 9 is my second favorite next to 6. It had a good plot,music and characters. I loved Vivi he was awesome and Melodies of Life is tied as one of my 2 favorite songs.

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Quote (seraphimdreamer777 @ 9th November 2008 05:06)

I think 9 had great music. Sure the characters weren't real looking and the villain Kuja isn't a household name like Sephiroth who I hate even though I like 7. But Final Fantasy 9 is my second favorite next to 6. It had a good plot,music and characters. I loved Vivi he was awesome and Melodies of Life is tied as one of my 2 favorite songs.

I think Vivi was voted one of the most annoying children of the FF series, haha.

What can I say I'd probably be voted most annoying person in the world. Guys like me and Vivi need to stick together.

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Quote (Zjiin @ 9th November 2008 04:53)

Quote (BlitzSage @ 9th November 2008 01:30)

i think that the only reason people dont like 8 is that it came after 7. it really wasnt bad.

I can agree to to that. A lot of people jumped on the FF bandwagon after playing 7.

yeah, i agree. dont get me wrong, i think VII is right there with VI as the two best, but FF became mainstream after it was released, and VIII is forced 2 live in its shadows.

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IX is mine, too "cartoonie" if thats a word
VIII rules

Quote (Dark RAM @ 19th November 2008 20:12)

IX is mine, too "cartoonie" if thats a word
VIII rules

cartoonish, maybe?

i personally liked IX better than some of the others. it would actually be closer to the top of th list for me.

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Praise Be To Helix!

Some players really liked IX, but i wasn't one of them. It did seem too cartoony and kiddie'd up. I guess it wasn't for everyone.