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Quote (SSJTrunks @ 22nd October 2009 03:36)

Oh my word, FFVIII has the most votes? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE? I would have to say out of all the Final Fantasy games I have played IX was the worst, played it for about 30 mins after renting it from the store and I sent it back shortly afterwards... Characters sucked they felt like "chibi" weird over the top midgety annoying characters and the main protagonist is a frigging monkey... I got to the whole medieval play thing and I was like... Screw this. LoL well that's my opinion. Seriously though FFVIII getting all these votes? The game is awesome the only downside is the junction system everything else was awesome, the laguna dream sequences man with the machine gun ftw. The garden batle. The weapons and weapon upgrade system/magazines, they were awesome man. Can't praise that game enough. Although FFVII is my favourite. Sephiroth ftw.

you're totaly right!!

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Quote (SSJTrunks @ 22nd October 2009 03:36)

Oh my word, FFVIII has the most votes? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE? I would have to say out of all the Final Fantasy games I have played IX was the worst, played it for about 30 mins after renting it from the store and I sent it back shortly afterwards... Characters sucked they felt like "chibi" weird over the top midgety annoying characters and the main protagonist is a frigging monkey... I got to the whole medieval play thing and I was like... Screw this. LoL well that's my opinion. Seriously though FFVIII getting all these votes? The game is awesome the only downside is the junction system everything else was awesome, the laguna dream sequences man with the machine gun ftw. The garden batle. The weapons and weapon upgrade system/magazines, they were awesome man. Can't praise that game enough. Although FFVII is my favourite. Sephiroth ftw.

you're totaly right!!

No.
Just no.

FF8's asinine plot twist, the horribly unlikable and mis-placed characters and absolutely awful idea for the main antagonist's objective make up half of the horribleness of this game.

The other half comes from the broken and abuse-prone system that lets you basically speed through the game, eating all opposition for lunch and never suffering even a tiny bit of indegestion.

This game is BAD

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Funny how people complain the junction system makes the game a cakewalk, then turn around and rant about how enemies level up making the game consistently difficult in many areas to a certain point.

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FF VII ..brilliant game and the first FF i ever played so kind of sentimental about it...

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Quote (Sherick @ 23rd October 2009 01:41)

Funny how people complain the junction system makes the game a cakewalk, then turn around and rant about how enemies level up making the game consistently difficult in many areas to a certain point.

Have I ever complained about the latter? And I don't really mean junctioning, as much as the fact, that the system allows you to kill half the game with GF-spam and the other half with limit-spam.

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X was a steaming pile of excrement and I wish I could go back in time and stop myself from wasting $60 on it on release day. The characters are bland and boring. The see-it-from-a-mile-away twist was M. Knight Shamaylan esque and the whole mandatory Blitzball to get best weapons was just a thinly veiled excuse to keep the programmers from doing any more work than they had to. For the opening act on the PS2, X was, well...crap.

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Went through hours of pain to finish V and you fight...a tree...GENIUS!! no sarcasm I'm taking back everything ive said about V. realised it was Galuf that was stopping me from playing and that by editing my ROM I was able to change Faris and Lenna's hair from bright pink to brown and blonde respectively

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Quote (SilverMaduin @ 27th October 2009 04:59)

Quote (Sherick @ 23rd October 2009 01:41)

Funny how people complain the junction system makes the game a cakewalk, then turn around and rant about how enemies level up making the game consistently difficult in many areas to a certain point.

Have I ever complained about the latter? And I don't really mean junctioning, as much as the fact, that the system allows you to kill half the game with GF-spam and the other half with limit-spam.

No you never did and that wasn't directed specifically at you, it really was more of an observation. Btw, I get what you're saying about the GFs, I did that most of the time too

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Quote (SaffireWeapon @ 23rd June 2009 04:30)

I love Final Fantasy, but I just don't like the original NES FF, I'm sorry, but it's the truth. I love the GBA and PSP remakes, now that's a Final Fantasy 1 that I can play.

I agree completely. I tried the NES FF, and barely got to Garland before going "Eh...I'll stick with Dawn of Souls".
(Although I know I should give it another try. Might as well, I guess.)

Anyway, I null voted, seeing as how I've only played I, IV, V, & VI (I tried II and gave up right after they explained the leveling system).

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Dont know how I kept missing this post, but I did.
VII goes down as my worst. VIII may have had the worst storyline, but VII is what ruined the final fantasy series for me. After seeing so much hype from the game on commercial after commercial, to actually play that pile of crap was so demoralizing I stopped playing video games for a while. The only reason I ever even watched the play-through is that the following summer my friend offered to buy all the snacks we needed for a week if I would go through it with him and help him get the damn gold chocobo. Thank god for series like Suikoden that didn't sell out on their core principles just to mass market.

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What problems did you have with VII? The only problems I found were the keeping of Limit Breaks after battle and t' pseudo 3d enviroment

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The characters felt bland to me, the storyline was unimpressive. Just the game as a whole did not seem like final fantasy to me. If it had not been called final fantasy, it would have seemed like a generic rpc. However, seeing as how it had to live up to the reputation of games like VI, it failed miserably and turned me away from the series.

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I recently completed FF2 on the PSP and have to say the leveling up system was CRAP but the game is still better than IX anyday I tried FF3 for the DS but didn't really like it that much and am now playing FFV for GBA and am liking it.

Quote (R8.50 Mango @ 1st November 2009 14:05)

Went through hours of pain to finish V and you fight...a tree...GENIUS!! no sarcasm I'm taking back everything ive said about V. realised it was Galuf that was stopping me from playing and that by editing my ROM I was able to change Faris and Lenna's hair from bright pink to brown and blonde respectively

Was okay with FF V until

Possible spoilers: highlight to view

Found out that Galuf and his granddaughter can ride around on meteors like a car/ taxi to travel around the two earths..

^ Eh- Whaatt ? 0 :

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This is a hard choice since a few of the games have gained my ire. So let's look at each of them and why I liked or didn't like them.

Final Fantasy I - I haven't played much of it, since I can never find a working copy or find one for another system in stores. What I have played I enjoyed up until the cartridge froze up on me. Being hardware problems I can't fault the game itself for anything.

Final Fantasy II - I haven't played it myself, but I've been told about it by friends who have, and hearing their mixed lamentations and admirations, I haven't really found myself too interested, knowing it would probably be something I might not enjoy based on how things leveled.

Final Fantasy III - I haven't gotten too far in it, but it's a decent game. It didn't leave a big impression on me, so I never got too involved in it.

Final Fantasy IV - I have a love/hate relationship with this game. Sometimes I simply adore it, other times I wouldn't play it if you paid me. I'm not sure why this is. Maybe because I get stuck way too often when I play.

Final Fantasy V - There's so much I love about this game. If it were a woman I'd buy it dinner and take it dancing.

Final Fantasy VI - And this one I'd marry

Final Fantasy VII - This is where people usually disagree, and depending on how big the fan is, attack me. I consider VII to be one of the most overrated games out series. It wasn't bad, but I can't find many reasons to justify why it's that good. To me it's mediocre at best and the parts I found horrible balanced out the good parts.

Final Fantasy VIII - This game almost turned me off of playing Final Fantasy games. The plot didn't interest me and most of the characters were annoying. I hated the card game, the junction system, the summons, how main characters in RPGs started having mopey, whiny attitudes. In fact, if any of you have seen the review by Spoony (it's on youtube, check it out), I agree with most of his complaints. Although, this isn't my most hated game of the series.

Final Fantasy IX - I played this game to death. In my opinion, it redeemed where the series was going. Having game go back to fantasy instead of the sci-fi way it was going was very refreshing. The characters were more enjoyable than they were in in VIII, even if some were annoying, they had some funny scenes here and there and play off each other quite well. The card game was far superior and I liked the chocobo treasure hunting. This game gets a lot of flak based on how it looks, with the characters looking cartoony, but give me that over realism. It makes it feel more like fantasy, and with the series title being Final Fantasy, I think that matters. The game just looks beautiful. I could say more, but this topic is about the worse games. There was nothing I really hated about this game, other than eating enemies to get blue magic. That was annoying.

Final Fantasy X - This game wasn't that bad, but definitely one of the worse games. It was better than VIII. I didn't like the sphere grid, and it always makes me cringe when Square wants to get innovative. I liked the fact that you could switch out party members, but that made it feel like I was playing rock paper scissors with each enemy having a specific weakness to each character. As far as minigames go, blitzball was horrible. I didn't care for the characters either. I don't want to give any spoilers, so let's just say that I wasn't impressed.

Final Fantasy X-2 - Of all the games in the series to make a sequel of, why X? If it was for money, they could've made a lot more if they made a sequel to VII. Definitely a low point in the series. I like the job system like in III and V, but this one didn't feel right. I actually felt like less of a man for playing it. I think this game was just meant for the female audience and there was just some fanservice thrown in for the guys. Also, I found this game far too easy. Aside from the secret boss. That was the only challenge for me.

Final Fantasy XI - I'm not going to count this because it's an MMO, plus I haven't really gotten a chance to play it.

Final Fantasy XII - This is the game that got me to give up on new Final Fantasy. I got half an hour into it before turning it off. I hated almost everything about it. It felt like a single player MMO, and if I wanted to play an MMO, I'd play WoW. Also the license system was ridiculous. I hated all the characters I saw, and even if there were better characters later on, I didn't want to put up with the ones that were around long enough to get that far. This was the worst game in my opinion.

wow 8 has the most votes?
didnt see that coming,
8 wasnt my all time favorite but it was like freakin crack to me, everytime i play through it i cant put it down and i get to disc 3 within a week of starting, i just love the progression of the story, and the card game was good enough to be a game all on its own, its waaaay better than the ff9 card game, and you never HAVE to play it in the main story, but the best part, to me, was that it had characters you could relate to, i mean everyone knows somebody like Seifer, but how often do you meet somebody like sephiroth? or Kuja? or Golbez?
but anyways....it was close between 9 and 11, i ended up going with 11 because i think it was a horrible decision to make an mmo with the name final fantasy, or make an mmo at all, WoW has that market dominated. period.
p.s. 12 was good!

I just dont understand how VII has got so many votes. For me it is the best by far, perhaps because it was my first outing into the RPG world but ive played it atleast 5 times since and i still love it. All this 2d character stuff, who didnt feel sad when aeris died ...Infact i just bought it again for the ps3. The best by a long way in my humble opinion.

Final Fantasy VIII was a great game! What are you tools talking about?

You people don't know what a grrreat game that was! Squall is the best developed male lead character in all Final Fantasy games! He was MORE in-depth than Cecil or Cloud or Terra! And you gotta LOVE that no-MP system!

I think it was nice to see Squaresoft remove the MP system and replace it with DRAW so we could have more hardcore gameplay that actually MAKES SENSE.

Jebus, what an amazing game! I love how the plot makes no sense, because it actually makes you THINK about the wonders of its complexity and ORIGINALITY.

I cannot find a single RPG game that is on par with such excellence that is known as... you got that right! FF8 is my favorite RPG because it has so many trippy s*** going on in that game, so I'm gonna smoke that joint everytime I play this legendary blockbuster!

PS: I don't understand, what's with the FF8 hate!? I love playing this game when I'm high. Why don't you haters out there smoke and get high so you can see just why FF8 rulez?

Heh changed mind/ almost new year and everything..

Final Fantasy I- It's not a bad game. Just can't find the way the magical key to start being able to be interested in it and still trying to find ways to be into the game. Though on the positive note, love the battle theme reckon it's the best in the series ^^

Final Fantasy II Ugh had the game ruined online because some silly person didn't know how to use a spoiler tag was kind of into it and was enjoying the challenging the game was bringing so probably would of kept playing if didn't find out about a favourite- character dieing..

Final Fantasy III III feels like a mixture of I &2 but like it. The characters are cute on both versions- [ III J- Onion Knights ] [ DS- Ingus Arc ] it's also tough as nails [ either that or need to level up more >_>] It's kinda of bringing a challenge that FF2 was bringing but not like [ I-wanna- rip-out- my- hair in frustration ] of kind challenge that FF2 was bringing- but more like- " Ah, lets try this again '' !
Kind of challenge. Plus Ingus and Arc are cute enough said !~~

Final Fantasy IV - My Favorite Final Fantasy - soo in a humble opinion FFIV is the opposite of the worst Final Fantasy... Just relate to Cecil [ The Main character alot] on both SNES & DS versions and have always loved the music and the Spoony Bard joke/ humor and how SE have used the story of Cain and Abel into this game and have added a legendary story into a legendary story ! ~~

Final Fantasy V - It gets kind of strange/ odd/ unique half- way through..
Though the music is good and Bartz does make a awesome comic relief. I don't hate it though I am super- scared of Ex- Death's castle and therefore because of that reason have stopped playing and may not go back..

Final Fantasy VI - Don't like it so much anymore than did a few years ago. Though will forever like Locke and will always be amazed by his awesome character. The music is greater than IVs and still love/ like how many characters there is/ can be in your party and Terra makes a awesome lead female/ main character to the story, though some of the hype for this game has been drained maybe because it took alot/ heaps of effort to complete the game..

Final Fantasy VII It's a magical game- something about it just makes you like it no matter what goes on and no matter how much your tastebuds for something changes [ like VI above..] It's probably subliminal messaging.. xD

Final Fantasy VIII Sometimes think that 8 is a great game and sometimes think that it's the worst Final Fantasy ever. But have been studying the characters and their past and their personalities these past few months and the characters are not so bad once you get past their " annoying whining "
Really like Squall Rinoa and Seifer now and used to loathe Rinoa and Seifer like how a teenager dislikes homework..
Final Fantasy VIII romance can be cheesy sometimes though love/ adore the Knight and Shining amour romance thing. That's why don't believe that FF8 isn't a bad game/ or bad Final Fantasy. Reckon that FF8 is misunderstood though..

Final Fantasy IX It's creative and unique and love how it goes back to the retro feeling and brings back some older stuff from the later games ^^

Final Fantasy X I don't like it at all... Because dislike what the game seems to be secretly saying about religious beliefs throughout this game..
Square did/ does have a right to share their views about reglion through this game however players have a right/ feel awkward playing through the game because of those views.. FFX has a great Battle system though and have always loved the Sphere Grid and characters like Auron and Yuna were great..

Final Fantasy XII Have gone back into thinking that this is The worst Final Fantasy The storyline.... what storyline.. :? Is dry and it feels like we are stuck in the middle of court and is watching people debate about politics..
And the fighting was kind of pointless... [ didn't like the change at all..]


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this wasnt in the list but i would say FF mystic quest lol, but if i was to pick from the list i would say 8 cause i only played like 10-15 min of it and fell a sleep then i just lost interest in the FF series and never played any of the other ones. oops, i take it back. i played like a quarter ways through 9 but that was it. i did watched my bro-in-law play 10-2. i dont know what square or enix was thinking but DAHHMM!! i felt sorrow for him for buying the game.

Well now, since everyone seems to be defending VIII and X I think I might throw my weight behind XII. From what I've read above, and previously, the main issue seems to be the characters, the story and in some cases the MMO-style battle system.

Starting with the characters, half of them are awful to the point of illness, I couldn't agree more, but the other half are as good as anyone could wish for. Balthier has class and charm, which I don't think has ever been done in a FF without it being comic in some form or another. Basch has a great VA and actually merits some interest into his 'fallen knight' storyline. And Ashe took my top spot in the all-time greatest FF character because she's a vengeful and strong woman in a game but without acting like an infallible bitch to everyone. Like I wrote before, her story really makes me want to train her and make her fight through the story. She has weaknesses, motives, personality, it's all there; her purpose, revenge by using what is effectively an atomic bomb on the empire's army, is morally questionable or plain evil depending on how you look at it. Thank the heavens that her eunuch husband dies in the opening cinematic, that could've spoiled things indeed. I suppose it serves to highlight the polar differences in the game between deep, interesting characters and utterly flat morons that put so many gamers off it.

The story is another example of the polar extremities between the good and bad of this game. While I hang onto every word regarding Ashe, Basch and Balthier, my attention and patience is floored by Fran and Vaan's pointless escapades. And Penelo doesn't really do anything at all, she doesn't even turn out to be a spy or an esper at the end or anything. Okay, like before, I agree with you guys that say the story is bland and uninteresting. However the parts I like, namely Balthier's past, Basch's incarceration, Ashe's revenge, are so compelling that they're like inoculations of medicine in an otherwise diseased body of plot.

Lastly, the gameplay. I personally loved the changes made, so I don't really know what to say. The Gambit system doesn't really ask for much from a player but offers a great deal. The best part of the game was finding and beating all the various optional bosses and champions. I read someone's opinion that the whole game felt more like a series of side-quests than a cohesive story, and that is exactly why I like it. It has enough characterisation to motivate the player into playing as the team, something that MMOs cannot do, and a wealth of exotic and difficult monsters to find and kill. There are so many brilliant ideas involved in fighting them and masses of strategies to win. The monsters look gorgeous and the art design team deserve a pat on the back*. There aren't many games that I can say would be a lot worse without good graphics, FFXII joins the Riddick games and Assassin's Creed on the list. It's challenging and interesting but, again, without demanding too much from the player unless you particularly want to go the extra yards or miles. The free-flowing gameplay allows for more strategies, more spectacular fights with the beautifully designed monsters, and adds an entire new dynamic to the previous entirely maths-driven battle system.

FFXII definitely has it's flaws, but unlike FFX it completely makes up for them in other areas.

*and then a slap for Vaan and Fran.

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Looking at the votes so far it seems 3 is the least worst. But I find that slightly shakey. I can understand the whole tech limitations of the NES but the DS remake? They could've made the story more compelling, with more FMV's like the beginning, and characters with a bit more personality (I did like refia's aversion to frogs though!)

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This time FFXI

The game controls are HORRIBLE!!

i played this game and it made me go:Why oh why did you do such a bad job? other online games have better controls,how can they mess this up?

1:i keep clicking the menu and sometimes the menu won't allow me to attack monsters and it makes me angry

2:the stupid game changes my desktop screen configuration to largest possible and i have to change it or download some program to allow the game to go in windowed mode.

3:the game cannot be in windowed mode and you cannot minimize it to look at maps and stuff in order to get to places.

WHY? WHY SQUARE? WHY DID YOU MAKE A MMORGP IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT SO SLOPPY?

i played ffxii revenant wings and disliked it

I didn't like vaan at all.

something really bothered me,it just wasn't believable and the characters looked like muppets

to add,i didn't like the gameplay and found it annoying.

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Edited to clean up the over-the-top language used for no good reason. -R51

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Honestly, I very much agree with most everything sweetdude said about XII (though I didn't think the story was that bad).

If it was on the list (why it isn't is beyond me), I probably would have picked V. On top of simply being one of the FFs preceding VI, Much of what I know about V makes it the least compelling FF in the series for me.

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The music also annoys me

The music in gustaberg and gustaberg annoys me.

The tune just plain irritates me as it repeats itself over and over.

The city music is well done enough,but don't expect me to want to listen to it over and over.



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FF1 was basic, simplistic, but fun. It's major flaws included that some spells didn't work, and that it (could) be a grind fest depending on the user's abilities and what characters he/she chose. Other than that, it was a big step for Square and overall done well.

FF2 was ...strange. Square tried a bit too hard, making gameplay a spam-fest of Attack, Attack, Attack. It was also incredibly grind-oriented, as none of your spells/attacks did anything unless leveled properly. Plus the game punishes you for playing well and not getting hit by not giving you HP bonuses. Lesson learned: Level systems work very well compared to this garbage. FF2's strong point was that it was plot-driven with non-silent characters. The GBA remake fixed a lot of these issues, however.

FF3 was wonderful. It brought back FF1's systems, along with greatly improved battle features, and the job system. This game is certainly one of the highest tier of Final Fantasy games. It really doesn't have much flaws associated with it, other than perhaps it's difficulty being a bit off-kilter at times. The DS remake was wonderful, as well.

FF4 was a masterpiece. A wonderful plot, and excellent gameplay and battle system. It's real flaw was its dialogue and translations. Maybe one of the best final fantasies.

FF5 was pretty good. It brought back the job system with gusto, and had a decent plot line with basically the same battle system as 4. Major issues include that some of the jobs were useless, and I personally thought the graphics were a step down from FF4 in some ways. Other than that, I was a bit frustrated with the difficulty level at times, as it varied enormously.

FF6 was great. It had one of the best plot lines (imo, of course), and the deepest character development. The weakest points of this game included the easy gameplay, numerous bugs/glitches including the evasion bug, and to an extent the translation (but that's Ted woosley's fault). All things considered, it's one of my favorites.

FF7 wasn't half bad, but it got more recognition than it should have. Graphically it was a new step into the gaming world for RPGs, but I felt the step down to 3 party members to be a bit... silly. Regardless, the plot was good and there was no serious flaws in the game, although battles were slowed a bit compared to earlier games (due to loading times, and constant battle animations.

FF8 was ... bad. The level system was meaningless, the draw system was monotonous, and the battle-system was overly-complex in attribute distribution. The game's graphics were great, but everything else was poor.

FF9 was surprisingly good. The game went back to the roots of FF4/FF6 but used job-system attributes (did those come from FF: Tactics? Or was that only introduced in FF:T Advanced?) The plot was good, but the graphics were more... playful. I personally like it, others wanted more like FF8.

FFX I had mixed feelings about. At first I thought it was horrible, but upon replaying it, I realize how smooth combat is. The Sphere Grid I neither think is good nor bad. The plot was terrible and the characters sucked.

FFX-2 was hideous. Stupid job system with poor jobs and extraordinarily short gameplay. Characters all sucked, and the plot was god awful. Worst FF game I've ever played.

FFXI I never played. It's an MMO and should have never received a numerical value. Couldn't they of called it Final Fantasy Online or something...? I don't even regard it as part of the main series, as it should've fell into line with things like Tactics, Crystal Chronicles, etc.

FFXII was okay in some ways. Lack of a gauge put me off a bit. When I buy final fantasy games, I want a goddamn ATB gauge or a turn-based system. I did NOT want whatever you call this. The plot was a bit weird, but not bad. Characters were good, although I think the main character was a bit of a trace back to Zidane. Great graphics and interesting battle system, regardless of it being not what I wanted.

My vote is on 2 or 8.

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FFXII was okay in some ways. Lack of a gauge put me off a bit. When I buy final fantasy games, I want a goddamn ATB gauge or a turn-based system. I did NOT want whatever you call this.

There was an ATB gauge. The only difference to the rest of the numbered series is that you can freely run around the battle rather than being static. Although, in fairness, items are instant.

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Based off the ones I played (IV - X), I rank them in this order (From best to meh):

VI
VIII
IX
X
V
VII
IV

And now I prepare for comments on how I should die for daring to place VIII and X above the Most Holy VII, but here's why I think each one deserves it's place.

VI - Where to begin? Of all the games, this one had the best story, the best characters, the best music, and probably even the best gameplay. It was the first one I ever played and I just fell in love with it.

VIII - Now why would I favor this seeming "abomination" so high on my list? Simply because, drawing magic aside, it gave me the most potential for powerful characters. Granted yes drawing was a pain in the ass, but once I could get my characters up to 9999 health and dealing 5000 damage per turn, all was forgiven.
But I think the main reason I favor VIII is simply because I could relate to the characters a lot more. VI and VII win the rewards for best cast, but as far as individual characters go, VIII had two of my favorites: Squall and Rinoa. What can I say? I saw a lot of myself within Squall, especially later on in the game and grew to like him more and more. And Rinoa, well, for all her faults I just liked the girl. Granted this is just my opinion, but I found VIII to be an excellent game. Most complaints I had against it were gone by the time I got halfway through the second disc. It still doesn't hold up against VI, but what could, but I still find it enjoyable.

IX - IX was a great game, beginning to end. While I had issues with VIII during the first disc and a half, I had no complaints against IX throughout it's entirity. So why's it below VIII? I don't really know. I just liked VIII slightly better is all. Like just a half a step better. I don't know what could have been added to IX to bump it over VIII for me, nor do I know what could have been taken away from VIII, but I just find IX slightly, slightly, slightly, less than VIII.

X - Yeah, this one I have a few issues with. The graphics are great, and I love the battle system, but really it feels a bit lacking. The voice acting, good at times, sometimes not so much, may have acted as a slight detriment to the game, but I don't really know. I guess it could be that with VIII and IX, I saw a little of myself within Squall and Zidane, but with X, I couldn't really relate to Tidus. It's not that I don't like the character, it's just that he doesn't really interest me like Squall or Zidane.

V - This one was just fun I guess. That's really the only reason it has it's position above VII. The job system was a great addition, as for the other games I do enjoy creating powerhouse characters. V was just fun gameplay wise. The story was mildly interesting and the characters were somewhat okay, but not particulary memorable, but it was just a pretty fun game.

VII - Ahh, here we go. Why did I place VII so far down the list? Did I think it was a bad game? Did I hate the characters? Did I just not understand it? The answer to all of those is...no. I really, really enjoyed playing VII. I think what puts it so far down on my list is just simple hype backlash. I had heard over and over and over again that "VII is the greatest game of all time" and then decided to give it a try. I found it fun to play, but it didn't exactly cure the cancer that I might have had. I guess the only reason I rank it so low is simply because it didn't hold up to my opinion of "greatest game ever." On a similar note, this could be why I liked VIII so much. I had heard over and over again that VIII sucks, so I gave it a try to see for myself. I ended up loving the game.

IV - I don't know why, but I really didn't enjoy this game. I found my characters too weak to do anything and outside of Cecil at times, I found most of them quite boring. The storyline kind of bored me and I just really didn't like it. I also got frustrated at a part that had me stuck for hours before I checked out how to complete it online. I thought to myself "How could anyone figure this out on their own?" Really, IV is currently the weaskest entry that I've played. While it may have introduced some of the concepts that later games would use, I found that V and VI put them to much better use.

I haven't played I, II, III, or XI (although XI I refuse to touch on the principle that I just don't like MMORPGs), but I have given XII a try. The results so far...not very promising. I loved the seperate battle screen with the ability to just give the characters orders on what do next. With XII, the whole linking attacks together annoyed me. I did like the fact that enemies are able to be seen on the field, but really, this system was hard to figure out.
Since I've only played about an hour of XII so far, it's too early for me to objectively judge, but it don't look like it'll be up there with my favorites.

Of course, I liked all of them in different ways. These would be the rewards I'd give out:
Best Cast: VI (Honorable mention: VII)
Best Music: VI (Honrable mention: IX)
Best Gameplay: V (Honorable mention: X)
Best Visuals: IX (Honorable mention: VIII)
Best Overall Character: Kefka (VI) (Honorable mention: Squall (VIII))
Best Villian: Kefka (VI) (Honorable mention: Sephrioth (VII))
Best Hero: Squall (VIII) (Honorable mention: Zidane (IX))
Best Female Character: Aerith (VII) (Honorable mention: Yuna (X))
Best Male Character (non-main): Irvine (VIII) (Honorable mention: Cid (VII))
Best Boss Battle: Ultimecia (VIII) (Honorable Mention: Necron (IX))
Most Difficult Battle: Evrae (X) (Honorable mention: Demon Wall (VII))
Best Cutscene: The Opera (VI) (Honorable mention: Anything from VII)
Most Interesting Character Overall: Zidane (IX) (Honorable mention: Aerith (VII))
Most Interesting Male Character: Edgar (VI) (Honorable mention: Vivi (IX))
Most Interesting Female Character: Celes (VI) (Honorable mention: Tifa (VII))
Best Overall Story: VI (Honorable mention: X)

Now for the bad parts:
Worst Character: Quina (IX) (Comin up 2nd: Zell (VIII))
Most Useless Character: Kimhari (X) (Coming up 2nd: Mog (VI))
Worst Use of Magic: IV (Coming up 2nd: V)
Least Interesting Character Overall: Quina (IX) (Coming up 2nd: Gau (VI))
Least Interesting Male Character: FuYoSa (IV) (Coming up 2nd: Cait Sith (VII))
Least Interesting Female Character: Relm (VI) (Coming up 2nd: Rikku (X))
Least Interesting Story: IV (Coming up 2nd: V)
Least Interesting Gameplay: IV (Coming up 2nd: IX)
Least Interesting Music: IV (Coming up 2nd: VIII)

Of course, these are all my opinions. What do I know? I'd like for you to be objective when reviewing them, but then, I can dream can't I?

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"Though the hours take no notice of what fate might have in store, our love come what may, will never age a day! I'll wait forever more!"- "Aria de Mezzo Carattere" Final Fantasy VI

Quote (Tim_Fortune @ 24th January 2010 02:27)

Now for the bad parts:
Worst Character: Quina (IX) (Comin up 2nd: Zell (VIII))
Most Useless Character: Kimhari (X) (Coming up 2nd: Mog (VI))
Worst Use of Magic: IV (Coming up 2nd: V)
Least Interesting Character Overall: Quina (IX) (Coming up 2nd: Gau (VI))
Least Interesting Male Character: FuYoSa (IV) (Coming up 2nd: Cait Sith (VII))
Least Interesting Female Character: Relm (VI) (Coming up 2nd: Rikku (X))
Least Interesting Story: IV (Coming up 2nd: V)
Least Interesting Gameplay: IV (Coming up 2nd: IX)
Least Interesting Music: IV (Coming up 2nd: VIII)

Of course, these are all my opinions. What do I know? I'd like for you to be objective when reviewing them, but then, I can dream can't I?

I'm a bit curious why you thought Kimhari was the most useless character? And why Mog was labeled 2nd? Kimhari's blue magic was incredibly powerful if used correctly, and he had strong, balanced stats. Mog certainly wasn't incredibly useful, but I could think of more useless characters. Umaro was near-worthless outside of the magi-tower. He'd get my #1 vote. Cait Sith was pretty awful, too. Also, I thought Wakka was more useless than Kimhari.

I'm a bit surprised you said IV had the least interesting story. Most people love FFIV's plotline. I think FFIV had strong gameplay and very useful spells, too, albeit the battle system wasn't nearly as complex as 5 and 6, so I see your point there.

IV did have low points with their music, I can't disagree too much there.

And my last note: I liked Rikku I thought there was less interesting female characters than her.

*Disclaimer: I respect your opinion and am trying to be objective and start discussion

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"A little tight, but the price was right" - Locke
"Oh, what a Fuddy Duddy" - Relm
"..." - Shadow
"I'm a General, not some love starved twit" - Celes
"Although Edgar showers his attention on the ladies, most are smart enough to pay him no attention. Oh! King Edgar!" - Figaro Castle Inn Attendant

Quote (Tim_Fortune @ 24th January 2010 02:27)

Least Interesting Music: IV (Coming up 2nd: VIII)

while i do agree with the decision on iv, i am baffled by viii at the number 2 spot. it is by far my favorite final fantasy soundtrack, with amazing scores like The Legendary Beast, The Extreme, Man With the Machine Gun, The Stage Is Set, Waltz for the Moon, A Sacrifice, and many many more that i don't want to type. it's still the only soundtrack i still listen to regularly, and ive had it for about 6-7 years.

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