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Posted: 3rd September 2007 16:29
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Yeah...so, basically, what do you guys think of the Compilation of FFVII?
When I'd first heard about Advent Children in '03, I was pretty excited that Squenix was making a sequel to a great game I'd enjoyed so many years ago. When it was still in production, Before Crisis was announced, and I found it pretty ridiculous that they were making a cell phone game. I was also disturbed when they announced DoC. Nonetheless, I was still looking forward to AC- my hopes died when I watched it, however. Advent Children: I thought it sucked. Honestly. The storytelling was pretty poor, and that trio of unattractive Sephiroth wannabes really had no explanation of origin, atleast not until the Ultimania guide. I guess the action was nice and all, but the way things unfolded just sucked. What was the point of this film? Other than money, what was the point? The storyline honestly could've done without it. Before Crisis: Never played it, not much to say here. Crisis Core: I was originally excited about this, but, not really anymore. The plot doesn't look too stellar, and the battle system looks very generic. Dirge of Cerberus: Eh. I can honestly say I don't like shooters. After playing it at a friend's house, DoC was no exception. Possible Remake: I ain't getting this if it ever comes out. I'm not getting a PS3 for it either. Call this ranting, but Squenix is just milking VII for all it's worth. I'm not gonna purchase all these half-decent spinoffs just because I liked VII. However, I'm interested to see what everybody else thinks about this. -------------------- FFIVDS looks awesome, right? Especially the character scans. I mean, look at that CGI scan of Yang. You see it and you just think...badass. And then you look at his polka-dot pants, likely stolen from a Dr. Seuss book. And then you just...shiver. |
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Post #156703
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Posted: 3rd September 2007 18:12
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No part of it looks worthwhile, to me. I haven't even bothered watching AC, because I know it's just a load of fanservice. It's got the plot of a subpar fanfic and to me, sems like the express intention was not resolution or expansion of the story, but a cheap cash cow.
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Post #156705
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Posted: 4th September 2007 23:21
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AC was fantasic, everything else was cheap and rushed in my opinion, plus a lot of it is only available to a very limited audience..........
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Post #156754
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Posted: 5th September 2007 02:09
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FFVII did have several loose ends to be tied up. however, i think in general, sqenix did a bad job of doing this.
i really enjoyed dirge of cerberus. im not a shooter kinda guy, but i still enjoyed DoC. AC had potential, and i was hooked at the beginning, but nothing really happened. of course, it was all very beautiful. in general, i would rather not see any compilation: FF7 or FF13. i think continuing the numbered series one game after another. its what worked for squenix in the past, and its what will continue to work. -------------------- Currently Playing : Final Fantasy V Most Recently Beat : Elder Scrolls: Skyrim Favorite Game : Final Fantasy X The newest CoNcast is up! Have a listen! |
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Post #156763
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Posted: 5th September 2007 12:31
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Yeah, i loved FFVII, but i guess the spinoffs never really had the quality of the original game.
For AC, i did think that it had a rather weak storyline, but it was really fun seeing the whole gang together, and the animation was pretty good, so it did have its redeeming points, and it did build on the themes of family within the game, so meh, passable. Yeah, but i agree, AC is pretty much fanservice. (And i bought right into it! Ahem) Can't say anything about Before Crisis and Crisis Core because i've never played them, but i thought that it might be interesting since they were focusing on the Turks. How come no one mentioned Last Order? i really liked that, it was nice seeing the traditional animation and i thought that it was quite well done at the same time, it's plot was solid enough despite it being a short and it only expanding on a small but crucial part in the game. Haven't played DoC either, but i do know some friends and acquaintances who have, and they've given relatively positive reviews. i like shooters, so it could be a genre problem as well, especially with FF7 being an RPG and this being a first(or third?) person shooter. i can honestly say that the rest of the compilation hasn't been able to stand up to the original game, but i think that's a good thing as well, i'm sure fans wouldn't want to see the luster of FF7 diminished anyway or overshadowed by the rest of the compilation. This post has been edited by linus on 6th September 2007 11:44 |
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Post #156774
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Posted: 5th September 2007 22:13
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AC had marvelous potential, but did not fullfill. The plot was good but it was told horribly, there was no detail (aside from the graphics, which don't count because I'm next to blind anyway) and it was too short.
DoC was pointless. They did nothing but complicate the story with unnecessary and sub-par plot and conveyance of plot. Even without the plot the gameplay itself was only mediocre. BC haven't played yet as I neither have a phone nor understand Japaneseish. Maybe someone will emulate it one day. CC actually looks pretty good, from what little I know of it. It appears to have a decent plot, though I'm not too sure about the battle system, I recently saw the movies that were released with Zack fightng Ifrit and useing Materia on the Hound thingeys. Maybe it's not as awkward as it looks. But will somebody PLEASE get the fight between Cloud and Sephiroth, when they were in the reactor in Nibelheim, right. LO and appearantly CC both changed it in DIFFERENT ways. We now have three different scenerios for that one scene. E-gad!! -------------------- I'm a little Wombat, short and stout Here is my tail and here is my snout But if you get me angry and I start to snarl WATCH OUT OR I'LL BITE YOU'RE HEAD OFF!!! |
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Post #156797
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Posted: 5th September 2007 22:39
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AC was beautiful. Despite some occasional slightly sub-par animation, the models were stunning and the environments were simply beautiful. Unfortunately, that's all it is. The storyline is stupid and barely works with the original FF7 storyline, and was a more than obvious ploy to draw in fanboys. It succeeded.
Seriously though, the fanservice was blatantly obvious. Throw in a scene where everyone gets a part? Check. Silver-haired villains? Check. Random Sephiroth revival? Check. Comical relief characters (in the form of the Turks)? Check. Big-ass random motorcycle? Check. Big dramatic final attack against the villain? Check as well. The movie pretty much focused on giving us the equivalent of a steaming turd packaged in a big majestic crystal box. BC, I dunno. Never played it. CC, same. DoC, I liked. Honestly, I thought there was more good to the game than bad. It was very fun, gameplay-wise. In fact, the gameplay is very awesome - Square should do more games like this. But it stunk of fanservice. Why Vincent? He's not even a "real" character! And the storyline barely fits with FF7's. And really, the final chapter was just awful. Possible spoilers: highlight to view Apparently there were 2 other people like Sephiroth, according to the files you can pick up throughout the game. FF7 makes NO mention of this, and basically builds Sephiroth's character around the notion that he's "special" and unique. So, what's up with G and the other nameless guy? And the last chapter? "GO VINCENT!" "Hmm... looks like it's time to save the world." Wow. I can't sit through that part without gritting my teeth. There HAS to be some award for "cheesiest cutscene" somewhere on the net - I want to nominate this one. Add the j-pop that plays through the last stage (wth? No, seriously, WHAT THE HELL?! J-pop? In a shooter that's been setting a fairly dark, somewhat industrial mood/theme?) and you've got yourself one of the most embarassing final stages ever. Even worse than that one stage in Parodius with the DJ penguins and the dancing hippo. Aside from that, the only thing I had a hard time swallowing was the whole "lol I uploaded my brain on the ITNERWEB!!!" bit... Talk about a blatant deus ex machina! The only real problem I have with the game, aside from the cheesy bits here and there, is how it autosaves. Sounds great? No. The damned thing happens without notice and turning off your PS2 can corrupt your save. This also happens when the memory is being read, such as at the title screen. You WILL corrupt your game because of this. Luckily you don't lose a lot of junk... but now I have to use a normal start-of-the-game Vincent to beat the extra missions, and that's simply insane. :x As for the remake, I'm all for it. At first the thought of yet another FF7 game didn't sit too well with me but hey, we've come this far, FF7 is already just a marketting thing for Square, so what harm's another game gonna do at this point? On the flip side, it looks beautiful and FF7 was a fairly good game - it could be interesting to see a remake of a next-gen FF after all those GBA/DS remakes, admittedly. But a GBA remake of FF7, now THAT would really rock. Seriously. I'd love to be able to compare a 2D game with a 3D game like that... This post has been edited by Silverlance on 5th September 2007 22:40 -------------------- "Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession and the likelyhood of him sharing." |
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Post #156798
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Posted: 6th September 2007 02:35
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Video game movies/shows/animes/cartoons are awesome when they follow the actual story of the video game. I don't understand why directors and cartoonists have such a hard time trying to understand that?
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Post #156803
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Posted: 6th September 2007 11:31
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In the Final Fantasy Retrospective's FFVII part, didn't they say that the Compilation of FFVII will end on FFVII's 20th anniversary? That's quite a lot of FFVII, assuming I heard right. I thought Advent Children was a pretty cool movie, but I never had any interest in any of the other games. I only got a PS2, and Dirge of Cerberus never tickled my fancy as I was never big on First-Person Shooters and I have no interest in playing the one focusing on 5 years before the game in Nibelheim.
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Post #156815
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Posted: 6th September 2007 18:01
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My feelings are: Why couldn't they have made a Final Fantasy 6 Compilation
Better game, story thats actually worthwhile, and it actually had something to continue on, such as how did magic return? As logically it must have eventually I mean on FF7 compilation everyone went back to how they were, sans Cloud who became a delivery man and Barret who we know fluff all about what he did This post has been edited by Dark Paladin Danny on 6th September 2007 18:02 |
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Post #156834
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Posted: 6th September 2007 18:44
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Quote (Dark Paladin Danny @ 6th September 2007 19:01) My feelings are: Why couldn't they have made a Final Fantasy 6 Compilation Better game, story thats actually worthwhile, and it actually had something to continue on, such as how did magic return? As logically it must have eventually I mean on FF7 compilation everyone went back to how they were, sans Cloud who became a delivery man and Barret who we know fluff all about what he did But I would never forgive Square for ruining such a great game. I must admit, my opinion of FFVII has dropped as a whole, just because of Square completely overdoing it with a compilation. Trying to milk every last penny out of a game really has a negative effect on it, one that I would hate to be bestowed on VI. I think its fine the way it is, as was VII, before Square sullied it, and just wish they had done the same to VIII instead of VII. |
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Post #156844
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Posted: 6th September 2007 22:05
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Quote (Dark Paladin Danny @ 6th September 2007 13:01) My feelings are: Why couldn't they have made a Final Fantasy 6 Compilation Different generation. And while I haven't verified my facts, I think FF7 sold better and has a bigger fanbase among the less old-school gamers. I think FF6 wraps itself up fairly well. Possible spoilers: highlight to view The end of magic would make it hard to create a proper sequel - this pretty much ends everything and brings the storyline to a close. The only loose ends left are minor ones that don't have to be resolved. With FF7, Shinra is PROBABLY still around (IMO that's just Square going against the FF7 storyline though; even Rufus clearly gets vaporized when the entire upper part of the Shinra building blows up, short of some really ugly deus ex machina being involved), the Turks are still around, Jenova isn't dead (the whole bit about the reunion and Jenova rebuilding itself, remember?), and the ending is a little hard to interpret. There's still usable material in there, assuming Square fudges around a bit with the storyline. Admittedly, while things are resolved at the end of FF6, there's a lot of backstory to the characters that isn't explored fully. Setzer and Daryll, the days of wandering Locke did after losing Rachelle, how the Returners were formed, Sabin's training days, Celes' role in the Empire, Terra's days as a tool of the Empire... Most of it wouldn't make a very interesting storyline for a game on its own, and it'd be hard to keep the original crew when most of them meet for the first time during FF6 (aside from Sabin and Edgar, Locke and Edgar, Strago and Relm, and Mog and Umaro. I think that's about it, really.) -------------------- "Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession and the likelyhood of him sharing." |
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Post #156856
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Posted: 7th September 2007 01:50
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Final Fantasy VII Advent Children was probably the biggest let down i've had since i found out that ansem made a return. There was nothing new about the story of the movie, they just tweaked the story of seven slightly to fit in two new main villans, and had fewer cities.
What i was upset about was everything that was promised to be in movie was scrapped in favor of flashy animation and cheap dialog. I mean when they originally started the project they said they'd tie up the conterversy behind aries death and show a special ending to FF7 that included vincent and Yuffie in it. They didn't do any of this, infact if anything they just added more questions, and even less answers. What appeared to happen with Advent Children was they stopped mid way through the begining and said "Wait a second, who says we need a new story, just throw in a few new villians and make some sweet looking graphics and everything will be great." What was even worse about the movie was that all the characters had changed from the game, Barrets lanuage was cleaned up and Possible spoilers: highlight to view , Vincent who was a reluctent loaner, and certified badass, had breif and almost pointless apperences in the movie. He now had a hand that transformed into a gun. Even though in the game it states that a bionic hand was more of a hinderance to him than a help. Caitsith wasnt even fully there, and red never even spoke. Not to mention that cloud went back to his whinne "i dont want to live" state that he was at in the beginning of FF7 and was suppost to be over by the end. End rant on the attrocity that was AC Now the idea of a Compilation, personally, they picked the wrong game to back for this. The reason FF7 got so much props was it was really a gate way to the playstation for many final fantasy fans. The reason that it sold so was was because newer generation of gamers were emerging, those who had grown up hearing about these wonderful games called final fantasy, with there new stories each game and better over all graphics progressivly. However the newer gamers having not a chance to play the classics had no idea how much they strayed. FF7 was, in theory a wonderful game, in excution it wasnt. They introduced too many new concepts into one game a once (similar to its later installment of FF8) and alot of the roots were lost in the game with pointless mini games, and the over use of many concepts. The blocky look of the graphics didnt help the case either. At the time they had much better graphic cability with the playstation, which was known. However since sony split off from nintendo and decided to make the system indepent of nintendo, not much was known. Since the slip occured when Square was renewing there contract with nintendo, sony decided to pounce on square for there title since it was already partially done for there system. This was probably the biggest ku in square history. Because of this the game had to be rushed to be finished and thuse the addition of pointless cinimas, odd character dialog at inapproiate times, and items ultimately left of out of the intal game that should of been there to understand it better. Plus the game had alot more technology in it than the other ones did, no more where you in an Aurthrian style world, but instead you were in more of a matrix meets I robot style world. So what i am ultimately saying is seven (aka the unfinished fantasy.) is the wrong horse to back. If anything they need to completly scrap the orginal and rebuild it from the ground up. Better graphics, a more defined battle system, approprate cinnimas, better character development, and plot points that actually make sense. But square has said they arent going to do a remake so i am not worried about it. What games i think they should make a compleation of are FF V & VI. Both have strong bases in a back story, and with what little you know of the before events it would be interesting to see what elements they could introduce by adding prequals and even sequals to them. Even if these stories ended very nicely and were very well done, there are more you can out of them. Maybe not even using the same characters, have them in sequals yes, but dont make them the main characters, make it so that it is it's own story and focused on the new ones rather than the old ones. Anyways thats my two bits. -------------------- Don't fear the reaper! Wonderful system this "Democracy" is no mechanism to break a tie -Dinobot- It's spelled Raymond Luxray Yatch but it's pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove. Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sic Semper Tyrannis bush. |
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Post #156861
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Posted: 7th September 2007 02:10
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Advent Children:
It was pretty to watch, the graphics were nice and everything and it was good eye candy to see the FFVII characters look more real and what their voices would sound like.However the storyline was poor.. Before Crisis: Not out yet, It sounds like a cool idea though... Crisis Core It looks like a cool game, but really it's just square fooling us so we can empty our pockets for a little chapter of FFVII every month..Money Milker.. Dirge of Cerberus: Vincent is a cool character and he should of gotten better.The game was rushed and sloppy..Shooters are fun, But DOC was frusrating.. Possible Remake: It's going to happen one day.. Overall: Advent Childern was a cool idea , but the rest is just Money Milking and sucking FFVII Dry.Leave the game alone, and focus on the other Final Fantasies... Final Fantasy VII may have great fanservice, but if Square did something to the older Final Fantasies(Example Final Fantasy VI movie ) Then the fanservice will increase.Because let's face it,most gamers these days are X-BOX graphic Whores.. This post has been edited by Starfish on 7th September 2007 02:18 |
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Post #156864
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Posted: 7th September 2007 11:33
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Well, I could care les about the graphics which have been stellar in the compilation, but storylines/plot have always been my favorite attributes in games. I've yet to play the other games in the FFVII stable, but judging from what some of you have said, it hasn't ben that good. I want an FFVII-based game with a killer story and awesome plot twists with an intriguing lead character, that's why I though Dirge of Cerberus would be good, like I said earlier, I've never been a fan of shooters.
As for Advent Children, I didn't think the story was as bad as some of you have said, though I do understand your reasons. I just wish they would've added more character depth than just Cloud and Tifa. If a new game in the FFVII Compilation focuses on Nanaki/Red XIII (past, present, or future) I'd more than likely pick it up as he is my favorite character in that game. Also, with his personality, his backstory in FFVII, and the nature of his hometown, I'm sure Square-Enix could make an outstanding game! -------------------- "Thought I was dead, eh? Not until I fulfill my dream!" Seifer Almasy "The most important part of the story is the ending." Secret Window "Peace is but a shadow of death." Kuja |
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Post #156878
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Posted: 8th September 2007 22:06
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Quote (Starfish @ 6th September 2007 22:10) Before Crisis: Not out yet, It sounds like a cool idea though... It is out. Atleast, in Japan, and it's been out for a while. I think the fact that they made it a mobile phone game was rather silly. I'm surprised so many people agree with me about AC. From what I'd heard it had mostly positive reception. -------------------- FFIVDS looks awesome, right? Especially the character scans. I mean, look at that CGI scan of Yang. You see it and you just think...badass. And then you look at his polka-dot pants, likely stolen from a Dr. Seuss book. And then you just...shiver. |
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Post #156933
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Posted: 27th November 2007 22:05
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i MUST disagree with you, i thought advent children was pretty awesome and i watched it before playing the game as my sister showed it to me, however DoC is said to be pretty rubbish but would like to play it just to be able to say i have, i think ff7 is amazing and if it is remade for ps3 i would buy a ps3 just for it as it eould be so much better to see aerith not wearing a michelin suit =P
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Post #159968
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Posted: 28th November 2007 01:08
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i liked AC, although i do agree that this movie is hard to follow without knowing FF7 plot in advance, just pure action is good enough to keep me entertained xP
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Post #159982
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Posted: 28th November 2007 06:17
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How do I feel about the FF7 or any FF compilations? No. A strong, resounding no.
I haven't played any of the other games due to me not having the systems or no interest (Dirge of Cerberus.) But I have a general idea of what they're about and will make no comment on them specifically. I was forced (basically) to watch Advent Children. I did not like it. When the most profound line is literally 'Dilly dally schilly schally.' ...I'm not swept off my feet. There was action, tons of action...the action never stopped. On foot, in the air, on motorcycles, they probably cut a fight in space. But it gets tiring, very tiring. All the action gives it too high of a tempo too quickly and it ceases being exhilarating and becomes just flashing pictures. It was just fanservice really, giving that crazy Cloud-Sephiroth fight in all the CG 'glory.' Besides, they made Rude all chatty and a joke, not all 'silent, deadly and awesome.' Shame. Although I am not a huge fan of FF7, I think a lot of it is hype, but if they were making all this junk for another game, I would be against it all the same. FF6 was mention as an alternative, and I love FF6, but I would frown upon spinoffs. You don't need to know how Cyan and his wife met, you know he loves her shortly after he's introduced because of his actions. All you need to get to know a character is a few 'paragraphs' of his story, you don't need the whole life story. Setzer was mentioned as a character to be expanded upon in a possible spinoff. In FF6, you only learned that he was a gambler, owned the airship, knew a woman named Daryl. That's his past in a nutshell. That's all you need. My thoughts on him from mainly those points: Possible spoilers: highlight to view That's all the character I need to like him.He comes off as carefree. 'The most important thing in life? Being free from obligation, otherwise you lose your ability to gamble' (Correct if wrong.) But he is the ONLY person along with Strago that completely loses any hope after the halfway point of the game. Only when he agrees to find another airship does he become hopeful and daring again. His relationship with Daryll is incomplete, they were friends, maybe in love. (Their hill DOES look like a fine make-out spot.) Make what you will of it, theorize, imagine, shrug off. But considering he restored the craft implies and lives free though their airships, is obligation he seems to despise. He is dependent on the airship to maintain his facade. How carefree and free of obligation can he possibly be? My point (finally), is that the games give you enough. Especially if you have too much time and ponder on what's there. In the time Aeris first joins and you get to Wall Market, you get a good idea about FF7. Aeris grows and tends to flowers in a ruined church . Cloud offers to protect her with the promise of payment. Reno acts pleasant to Aeris to get her, but then tramples her flowers. In the town, a woman keeps her eyes locked on the ground, to find stuff to get rich and get outta there. In the playground, Cloud hesitates and freaks (just for a second) when telling her his former rank in SOLDIER. Doesn't that tell you enough about Cloud, Aeris and Midgar? Do we need four games, two movies and god only knows what next to tell us the same things and expand upon what is already expanded upon? Just my two cents. This post has been edited by Kylerocks on 28th November 2007 06:24 -------------------- Really Random Quote of the Day: "Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war." - Richard M. Nixon So if you're done reading this, you know I have nothing to say and you've wasted your time. Thank you come again. |
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Post #159990
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Posted: 30th November 2007 05:06
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Quote (SonOfASubmariner! @ 6th September 2007 02:35) Video game movies/shows/animes/cartoons are awesome when they follow the actual story of the video game. I don't understand why directors and cartoonists have such a hard time trying to understand that? Haha, yeah AC had barely anything to do with the original storyline. the only reason worth watching it is probably because of the action or the improved graphics. I never understood a thing about DoC and i thought it was STUPID, just dumb, dumb, and more dumb. As for the remake, I'm sorta for it and sorta don't want it. Its the not-so-cool graphics (well, not crappy in the '90s) of the original version that make it so fun to play sometimes, like whenever the game takes over in an FMV, like: Possible spoilers: highlight to view motorcycle minigame, Aeris dies, Gold Saucer, Train at North Corel, The "reunion" and all that stuff you are more excited because you get to experience things in more color, detail, and such than other times. -------------------- "Damnation" -Kain "Damnation" -Edge "You spoony bard!" -Tellah "aftah wee blo dis plase up, it aint gonna be nuthin buta hunka junk" -Barret (i give you credit for restating the obvious) "Looks like golden shiny wire of hope to me." -Barret "Sit your ass down in that chair and drink some goddamn tea" -Cid "SHEEEERA!" -Cid |
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Post #160032
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Posted: 3rd December 2007 17:00
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Advent Children was crap.
Dirge of Cerberus was crap. Never played Before Crisis. And I'd like to play Crisis Core as it's all thats left with the FF7 storyline that I could bring myself to care about. |
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Post #160124
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Posted: 6th December 2007 20:53
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Quote (Kerahl @ 3rd December 2007 17:00) Advent Children was crap. Dirge of Cerberus was crap. Never played Before Crisis. And I'd like to play Crisis Core as it's all thats left with the FF7 storyline that I could bring myself to care about. Whelp, that about sums up my opinion as well. I'd have much preferred it if they'd left well alone. Sad that just because FFVII is popular so many medicore or worse things (including no end of my pet hate, ridiculous retcons |
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Posted: 7th December 2007 02:12
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I don't believe spin-offs can ruin a game. I thought the Turks were cheapened in AC but that doesn't mean they're not just as good on the PS. There's a huge distinction between the game and the film, and this isn't exclusive to SE either. Look at Hitman, Doom and Tomb Raider. These were quite good games in their time and just because they were made into poor films doesn't mean I've lost my respect for them.
I agree that AC is just mindless fanservice, but there's no harm in watching it. It's not like Das Kapital or anything. I haven't played DoC and all I've heard - aside from here - is that Vincent's jump is funny. Might try and find it cheap one day. Crisis Core looks as silly as AC. However I'm really interested in the materia system they've introduced. I love materia! Before Crisis might be forgotten over here by those of us who can doublethink. -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Posted: 7th December 2007 07:30
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Okay, surprisingly, I haven't yet posted a reply to this.
I liked the compilation, or rather, I liked it's components. FF7 itself is a fun game which some people criticise for good reasons, but there's another thread about that, so lets stop here. Advent Children is eye-candy, I agree with that. I love eye-candy. The music was great and the fight scenes were physics-defyingly cool. There was no plot, but was it supposed to have one. (Answer: yes, it was. Yours truly just doesn't care in this particular case). AFAIK the official English translation is horrible and that's what I hear most people complain about ("Dilly-dally, shilly-shally"?!? What the hell?!?) Dirge of Cerberus is fun to play IMHO, and the plot is that of a cross between a James Bond movie and a Resident Evil game. It could have been more and there are a few things I didn't like about the gameplay, but overall I like it. Yes Vincent does jump funny. Before Crisis I haven't played. Crisis Core I also am yet to play, but I store great hope by it, due to the protagonist being Zack (who I'm very fond of). -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Post #160229
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Posted: 12th December 2007 12:53
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i loved ac and the compilation was good. The animation was awesome and the music was beautiful. I like the spiritual side of final fantasys more than the fighting so i thought the lifestream bit was sad at the start and i loved it and i love 7. so Yay for ff!
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Post #160355
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Posted: 14th December 2007 04:13
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The spinoffs are not Final Fantasy 7. The true essance of FF 7 was the block graphics and all that stuff, with a killer villian. The spinoffs, like others had mentioned, felt like merchandising, thus square trying to suck all the money they can from this one instalment. When Square tries to do these kinds of things to the Final Fantasy franchise, it sickens me and dulls my positivity towards them. When they where just starting the franchise, they had the feel of just wanting to make a piece of art, instead of an item that would help them gain there fortunes. It had the feeling of pureness and innocence, that i think is missing in todays Final Fantays. They should never have extended the Ivilice world, because even though some liked it, its not Final Fantasy. When Square realizes that putting out these spinoffs are not helping there image, i hope they go back to the roots of what Final Fantasy was and should be all about. There about originality, not fortune.
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Post #160411
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Posted: 18th December 2007 18:50
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I have not tried Crisis Core or Before Crisis, but I am eager to do so. Before Crisis may well be the sole reason for me to buy a PSP.
I actually wrote a review on Dirge of Cerberus, giving it five out of six. I think the story and gameplay are very good, just not top notch. The graphics in Advent Children took my breath away. The story has some glitches, but it is overall a good movie that I gladly will see again someday. -------------------- The end has no end. |
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Post #160569
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Posted: 19th December 2007 05:46
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Square Enix should have just left it at Advent Children, or at least put in more effort into Advent Children. But, of course, FFVII has the largest amount of fanboys, so it's obvious that they'd want to cash in on that, however shoddy the end products are (Dirge of Cerberus).
Although I would be okay with a Final Fantasy VII remake, personally, I think that it's too soon for that. I mean, most of the other remakes (I-VI) had at least 10 years between them. Sure, it's already been 10 years since the release of the original Final Fantasy VII, but it still feels too soon for the remake. I don't really ever intend to get a PS3 until it has majorly decreased in price and actually has some worthwhile games. -------------------- "You underestimate the strength of a Jedi's mind, Brejik. A mistake you won't live to regret, " -Bastila Shan(Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) |
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