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...but don't get too excited.

The continuation of Cecil's epic story probably isn't going to be within your reach. FFIV: The Big Whale Flies Again (okay, I completely made that title up; the real title is Final Fantasy IV the After - Return to the Moon) will appear in 2008 as a cellphone exclusive.

The story will follow the travails of Theodore, a young boy descended from Cecil's noble line.

Hey, at least we're getting FFIV DS, right?

Source: neogaf

Thanks to Crazyswordsman for the heads up!

My first reaction was a general blah to news of a sequel to any Final Fantasy game. Generally speaking, I don't think there's much room for two epic, world-shattering adventures in the same setting... and we've already seen the IQ-lowering power of FFX-2.

Then again, FFIV did leave some room for further development, and it sounds as though we're leaving the previous cast of characters behind. What do you think? Are we missing out on something?

This post has been edited by karasuman on 13th December 2007 18:56

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No. Just no. This is wrong.

Let's add up the things that are WRONG with this, shall we:

~The title is over 15 years old.
~The main characters will not be in it
~The original was really good
~It's on a cell phone


NOoooo

Quote (yelanates @ 13th December 2007 14:22)

No. Just no. This is wrong.

Let's add up the things that are WRONG with this, shall we:

~The title is over 15 years old.
~The main characters will not be in it
~The original was really good
~It's on a cell phone


NOoooo

I totally agree. Even if there is room for a possible "sequel" of sorts, it should not be on the cellphones. This kind of a sequel should work on a system like the Ds or something to be able to bring out any possible potential...

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Lol. Will it at least be an RPG game? I have a feeling that they're going to ruin everything I love about FFIV. Would be fun to play some FF on my mobile phone during the boring lectures, though.

The Big Whale Flies Again is a great title, by the way.

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It's gonna be on a mobile phone? Buggery!
Most of em don't get released outside Japan when they are, combined with the fact mobile phones usually screw themselves over after a while so you'd lose the game thus wasting all yer money!
*Sulks*

Sheesh. Square Enix just keep circling around to jump over that damn shark.

I already regard it as an Ungame. It does not exist. It will not exist. It did not exist. Those who speak of it are speaking falsehood. Those who claim to play it are doing so to conceal other nefarious activites such as terrorism, communism, and denial of cake.

It has one source of salvation: If Theodore is accompanied by a friend named William, a mentor named Rufus, and then goes on to have a most excellent adventure or most bogus journey.

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Aw, crap. First Parasite Eve, and now this? We honestly have three things to blame for this:

1. Cell phones are more popular than video game consoles, and cell phone games are popular enough in Japan to merit this kind of project
2. Cell phone dev costs are low, and distribution costs are nonexistent
3. Consumers will eat it up like beer-flavored applesauce

So... **** Square Enix. I honestly hope this game is about as playable as an abortion. Just to stick it to them and also remove the temptation of trying it out myself.

This post has been edited by laszlow on 13th December 2007 23:01

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I already regard it as an Ungame. It does not exist. It will not exist. It did not exist. Those who speak of it are speaking falsehood. Those who claim to play it are doing so to conceal other nefarious activites such as terrorism, communism, and denial of cake.

beautifully said.

cell phone games are the worst idea in all of video game history

period. any other system, and this weak-sounding sequel might have been decent. FFIV was well loved, its been a while, and it did leave some open spots, especially with kain. however, in a world without any of the original characters, how is it even a sequel?

and that is if it wasn't for the cell phone. basically, squenix is wasting our time with another sure-to-fail money grabber.

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however, in a world without any of the original characters, how is it even a sequel?

and that is if it wasn't for the cell phone. basically, squenix is wasting our time with another sure-to-fail money grabber.

I think fanfic writers could make a better sequel storyline than this, and they're not even getting paid to write one.

I have no problem with a sequel if it is done well. FF7 Dirge of Cerberus had the original cast, even if they got unequal attention. It was still a good play. But this FFIV-2 sounds beyond pathetic without the cast that made the original what it was, especially as a phone game. Don't phone games have limited memory? Most phone games are just meant to be time-passers while the player waits in line or sits awaiting their meal in a cafe.

Is Squenix facing bankruptcy? Why would they release such an obviously degenerate product if their survival weren't depending upon the $ they hope it brings them?

This post has been edited by Frozen_Aura on 14th December 2007 04:10

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It has one source of salvation: If Theodore is accompanied by a friend named William, a mentor named Rufus, and then goes on to have a most excellent adventure or most bogus journey.

Party on, dude!.

Alright so SE has sold out for a cell-phone sequel eh? I honestly feel sorry for them, and the people who'll get a cell-phone plan just so they can get there "fanboy" on. This is without a doubt the saddest news I've heard all year.

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1. Cellphone exclusive in a flaccid cellphone game market
2. Announcing a 2008 release in mid-December 2007
3. Presumably your best teams still hard at work on XIII and IV DS

1 + 2 + 3 = FLOP

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Wasn't some part of the FFVII compilation on a cell phone? No matter.

Well, don't worry, we'll be able to emulate it soon enough

IF we should come to care. I'd check it out if it was free.

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Whats up with this cellphone fettish of squars anyways, first KH Coded and now this! am i never going to get play a full seires of a game? i mean hell didnt they learn there lesson about experimenting with consel systems when they brought out FFXI? i mean despite it's popularity, they lost more than half there fan base because they game was so expensive and had so much you had to pay monthly. Plus i dont think i've even seen a new expansion for that one in over 2 years. Seriously though, a game like this would need to be on a medium that would be more pronounced. Something like the advanced, where the controls are more reconizable. Cellphone games have limited controls so it means that functionality of an other wise epic scale will be non existant. Why does square keep shooting themselves in the foot?

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Quote (Lockes AlterEgo @ 14th December 2007 10:31)

Whats up with this cellphone fettish of squars anyways, first KH Coded and now this! am i never going to get play a full seires of a game? i mean hell didnt they learn there lesson about experimenting with consel systems when they brought out FFXI? i mean despite it's popularity, they lost more than half there fan base because they game was so expensive and had so much you had to pay monthly. Plus i dont think i've even seen a new expansion for that one in over 2 years. Seriously though, a game like this would need to be on a medium that would be more pronounced. Something like the advanced, where the controls are more reconizable. Cellphone games have limited controls so it means that functionality of an other wise epic scale will be non existant. Why does square keep shooting themselves in the foot?

Two things you should probably know:

1) A new FFXI expansion came out like a month ago.
2) The United States is not the only market for games in the world. Just because it doesn't make sense to you because your cellphone sucks doesn't mean that the rest of the world agrees.

As for the meat of this story, I have no idea why they would need to try to extend the FF4 story, regardless of what system it's on. But, then, it's not something I need to care about, so hey - more power to them.

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Whats up with this cellphone fettish of squars anyways, first KH Coded and now this! am i never going to get play a full seires of a game? i mean hell didnt they learn there lesson about experimenting with consel systems when they brought out FFXI? i mean despite it's popularity, they lost more than half there fan base because they game was so expensive and had so much you had to pay monthly. Plus i dont think i've even seen a new expansion for that one in over 2 years. Seriously though, a game like this would need to be on a medium that would be more pronounced. Something like the advanced, where the controls are more reconizable. Cellphone games have limited controls so it means that functionality of an other wise epic scale will be non existant.  Why does square keep shooting themselves in the foot?

Two things you should probably know:

1) A new FFXI expansion came out like a month ago.
2) The United States is not the only market for games in the world. Just because it doesn't make sense to you because your cellphone sucks doesn't mean that the rest of the world agrees.

As for the meat of this story, I have no idea why they would need to try to extend the FF4 story, regardless of what system it's on. But, then, it's not something I need to care about, so hey - more power to them.

Hmm i guess i am more out the loop than i thought. Oh well regaurdless of that fact i still think the cellphone is a dumb medium for them to put it. The only real good cellphone i could see it on is possibly an Iphone.

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While there is a market for this game in Japan, the US is the second largest demographic for Square, and FF isn't as popular in Japan as DQ, so this makes no sense.

I would say that Squeanix is just money gouging with crappy fanservice, but neither is true, because if they wanted to make money OR give the fans what they wanted, they would remake FF7 on the PS3.

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They never should have broke the tradition of no-direct sequels. Maybe part of me thinks this way because I'm an old-school traditionalist, but part of me also feels that way because these sequels just plain suck. I get more convinced of that the more that are released.

FF X was far from my favorite, but I played it. FF X-2 I never went near b/c I heard such terrible things. I gave one direct FF sequel a shot, and that was FF7-AC. Not a sequel in the sense of a game, but FF7 is one of my favorites, if not my favorite in the series. What a letdown. It took one of the most open-ended and poignant endings in an FF game and actually continued it, even bringing Sephiroth back for total fan service. That killed it for me.

I can't imagine this being much better. Part of me thinks the series just went astray after Sakaguchi/Uemastu/Amano left. But I heard great things about XII, even though I haven't played it yet. So maybe it really just is that too much "epic" doesn't work for FF. Leave a good, closed game alone.

this game is badass. the movie scenes are like advent children.

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this game is badass. the movie scenes are like advent children.

Care to share where you saw this?

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As for the meat of this story, I have no idea why they would need to try to extend the FF4 story, regardless of what system it's on. But, then, it's not something I need to care about, so hey - more power to them.

I'm not sure if people are or aren't expecting FF IV original spoilers in this topic. Oh well, we have the tags so better safe then sorry...

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Because somebody was calling the shots behind Zeromus, clearly. What motive could they have? I dunno, it all seemed to get more and more far fetched with each revelation of who the 'real' bad guy was. Perhaps there's somebody living on the OTHER Moon who wanted to get the guardianship of the Lunarians out of the equation. Likely a member of a similarly long lived race that could outlive the characters. Or perhaps, maybe a ghost did it for whatever. Who wants to take bets that the second moon will come back into orbit sometime during the course of the plot?

Honestly, I think FF IV can be a perpetual case of history repeating itself in an infinite loop. Anybody far enough in to get that last spoiler should certainly know why I feel that way. That makes it infinite loop sequel fodder as well.

Anyway, I also dislike the notion of this sequel, or any sequel for that manner. I think square's just going to keep on milking as much money on taking advantage of or redressing the same ol' games 'cause they find it hard to satisfy the classic market but don't want to lose their repeat business. It also serves as extra promotional fodder for the DS remake.

With this trend, they'll have FF VII type spinoffs for every SNES game and III DS first, probably proceed with I then work their way up from there. I had a silent feeling that FF X-2 was testing the waters for boundary stretching acceptance, looks like I was right, unfortunately. I liked the epic one shottedness of each game and while that's partially preserved without the other characters, it makes the original anticlimatic. It just won't be the same without Rydia or even Cid either for that manner. No, not Cid the II (likely to be, I think), Cid from the original. =P

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Role reversal at its finest.

I think Square should get their priorities just announce the North American and European release dates for Final Fantasy IV DS already. Let's be honest, the North American and European fanbase for that particular Final Fantasy is huge and being that FF is more popular than DQ in the States, Square Enix would be stupid not to cash in on releasing them here.

As for the FFIV sequels? What's with Square Enix and sequels nowadays... I think we have enough with the 50 sequels for Final Fantasy VII, thanks.

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I think Square should get their priorities just announce the North American and European release dates for Final Fantasy IV DS already. Let's be honest, the North American and European fanbase for that particular Final Fantasy is huge and being that FF is more popular than DQ in the States, Square Enix would be stupid not to cash in on releasing them here.

As for the FFIV sequels? What's with Square Enix and sequels nowadays... I think we have enough with the 50 sequels for Final Fantasy VII, thanks.

I personally thought we had enough with out a squal to seven. The game i wish i could forget mind you. Square is doing what most companies do that are facing bankrupcy, they are clinging to ever last straw and fiber they have and hoping for a mirical. The problem is that there trying to get the same mirical that happened the first time to happen again with the same series. They arent re-inventing the wheel again, they are just taking a wheel that was already made and polishing it again. Which most companies do for the sake of trying to save face. They really want a killer bombshell though they need to take call the creative power in the company, have them sit down collectively and make something totally new that isnt even in any one of there normal series. Like they did with the first final fantasy. Unfortunatly this wont happen because they are all busy working on different project to try and save face. So we get things like rehashing of old stories with different prospectives and end up having them loose even more. However as always i am remaining some what optimistic. If they do this thing right they can pull it off nicely. The problem with most squeals is that they borrow to much from the old story and never give enough about whats going on to really make it structurally sound. They might beable to do it with this.

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Sheesh. Square Enix just keep circling around to jump over that damn shark.

I already regard it as an Ungame. It does not exist. It will not exist. It did not exist. Those who speak of it are speaking falsehood. Those who claim to play it are doing so to conceal other nefarious activites such as terrorism, communism, and denial of cake.

I agree with this entirely.

Putting the sequel to a popular game on a cell phone is just sickening, especially when you're remaking it for the DS, after having just tweaked it for the GBA.

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Could you repeat that?

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this game is badass. the movie scenes are like advent children.

Umm, you're probably thinking of the version of Final Fantasy IV for DS. I doubt that there's so much as screenshots for the supposed Final Fantasy IV sequel.

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It has one source of salvation: If Theodore is accompanied by a friend named William, a mentor named Rufus, and then goes on to have a most excellent adventure or most bogus journey.

Haven't we seen this story? And on a cell phone? What sense does that make? I haven't played IV since I was just a boy, so I don't remember much of it, but I can't see being able to continue much of any story on a cell

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