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so this includes Tellah's Recall and Kain's Jump?

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Currently Playing: FFVI GBA
Just Beat: FFV
Favorite Game: FFIV
Favorite Char: Locke
Best Weapon: Atma Weapon

Umm okay let me get this straight, in oder to say get the fight command from rosa i'd have to give it up using some other technique? then when she left she'd give me the item for it? I'm confused.

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Only party members that leave the party for good give Decants. So with the exception of Cecil's "DARKNESS" you cannot get any Decants from Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, or Edge as that is your final party.

You can get Tellah's moves yes, and the twins, and Cid's, Edward's, FuSoYa's and Yang's as they all leave for good or die.

This post has been edited by Eric on 5th May 2008 20:57

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Name: Eirikir Lashius (Ramza)
Role: Knight
Age: 23
AA1: Arts of War
AA2: Guts
R: Counter
S: Concentration
M: Move +3
W: Durandal
O: Reverie Shield
H: Grand Helm
B: Grand Armor
A: Brigand's Gloves

what was Fusoya's ability again?

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"Do you know what happens to a giant when it's blasted by a fireball?.....Same Thing as everything else!"

- Black Mage from 8 bit theater.

Currently Playing: FFVI GBA
Just Beat: FFV
Favorite Game: FFIV
Favorite Char: Locke
Best Weapon: Atma Weapon

All i have to say is It is a bout damn time to give such a great game , great graphics to go with it.


i am totally pumped and buying a ds just to play this game version hehe



hopefully they'll be working their way up the series to remake 7

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Yeah ive seen the artwork, and im impressed too. I Just wanna know when it comes out.

July 22nd 2008


i'm counting down the days

Quote (Eric @ 5th May 2008 15:57)

Only party members that leave the party for good give Decants. So with the exception of Cecil's "DARKNESS" you cannot get any Decants from Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, or Edge as that is your final party.

You can get Tellah's moves yes, and the twins, and Cid's, Edward's, FuSoYa's and Yang's as they all leave for good or die.

You sit didnt answer my question, infact you advoided it. I got the part about those guys but what do you mean by what you said about giving weaker abilities to characters that leave for good eariler to get better ones?

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Wonderful system this "Democracy" is no mechanism to break a tie -Dinobot-
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Quote (Lockes AlterEgo @ 5th May 2008 19:33)

Quote (Eric @ 5th May 2008 15:57)

Only party members that leave the party for good give Decants. So with the exception of Cecil's "DARKNESS" you cannot get any Decants from Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, or Edge as that is your final party.

You can get Tellah's moves yes, and the twins, and Cid's, Edward's, FuSoYa's and Yang's as they all leave for good or die.

You sit didnt answer my question, infact you advoided it. I got the part about those guys but what do you mean by what you said about giving weaker abilities to characters that leave for good eariler to get better ones?

I didn't try to avoid it, sorry.

You give decants to get decants. And each character only gives 3. Here's an example.

Edward has 3 special commands, HIDE, SAIVE, and BARDSONG in that order I think. Now you get him into your party and give him decants. If you give him 1 you will get HIDE, 2 will get you HIDE and SAIVE, while 3 will get you all three of his commands.

For the most part the unit's best commands are their last one, which means trading in sometimes good decants for better ones later.

Once you beat the game and save you activate a NEW FILE+ in which you can play the game from the begining. Each time you play through the characters keep the commands given in earlier playthroughs. This is esspecially useful if you think about it. Let's pretend that in the last playthrough you gave Edward 3 decants to get his commands. In the NEW file he already has 3 decants, the ones you had to give him you don't have to, and he will still give you his 3.

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The Brave Knight
Name: Eirikir Lashius (Ramza)
Role: Knight
Age: 23
AA1: Arts of War
AA2: Guts
R: Counter
S: Concentration
M: Move +3
W: Durandal
O: Reverie Shield
H: Grand Helm
B: Grand Armor
A: Brigand's Gloves

Eric has the right idea, but he's a bit off. Normally, you get Decants by either one of two ways: by obtaining them after a certain party members will leave the party (you get Gilbert/Edward's Decant abilities when you meet him again at Toroia Castle) or after defeating certain bosses (like the Four Elemental Fiends).

Each character will automatically give one Decant Ability upon their departure from their party, regardless if you ever equipped any Decants on them. This means that if you don't want to give Cid any new Decants, you will only get one Decant from him: the Scan ability. But, should you choose to give him two new Decants, you will get three Decants from Cid rather than one. This is true for all other characters, save for the twins. You can give one Decant to each of the Twins and still get all 3 abilities that they would normally give you.

The final five each have unique abilities that cannot be Decants for other characters to use: Cecil's Cover, Kain's Jump, Rosa's Pray and Aim, Rydia's Summon, and Edge's Steal, Ninja, and Throw.

Hope that clears things up a bit since it could be tragic to give Edward 3 Decants when he only really needs 2.

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Okay that clears up alot actually thank you. My next question is does anyone have a list of these abilities you can get? i've heard that there are 30 of them in total.

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Gamefaqs has one.

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My Final Fantasy Tactics: The War Of The Lions Avatar

The Brave Knight
Name: Eirikir Lashius (Ramza)
Role: Knight
Age: 23
AA1: Arts of War
AA2: Guts
R: Counter
S: Concentration
M: Move +3
W: Durandal
O: Reverie Shield
H: Grand Helm
B: Grand Armor
A: Brigand's Gloves

Arrghhhh Another game I desperatley want. Don't know why so many good games are coming out soon. I gotta start saving money.

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I'm looking on gamefaqs now i can't seem to find it.

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Don't fear the reaper!
Wonderful system this "Democracy" is no mechanism to break a tie -Dinobot-
It's spelled Raymond Luxray Yatch but it's pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove.
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Sic Semper Tyrannis bush.

Quote (Lockes AlterEgo @ 8th May 2008 10:31)

I'm looking on gamefaqs now i can't seem to find it.

Here's a good one: FF IV translation wiki

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Well, origanly I had no intrest in another FF4 remake. However with the newish gameplay it might be worth playing.

I want to play the sequal, but it's on cell phones in Japan along with Parasite Eve 3...

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At least you get a lot of bad decants that you can trade in for better ones! Otherwise I'd be devastated about planning out what to give.

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Currently Playing: FFV Advance, GTA IV, Brawl, Okami
Waiting For: FFIV DS, Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled, Too Human, Fallout 3, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!
IT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BEST REMAKES THAT SQUARE HAS EVER MADE!!!!!

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Has the release date for here in jolly olde England been announced yet?

I wasn't that exited since I knew the game was coming to the DS about one or two years ago thanks to wikipedia, the first pic I saw was the 3D Cecil D.K.

Well,today is OFFICALLY my birthday, and I'lltry to get a copy of FFIVDS.
wish me luck.......

Just ordered it yesterday, online of course, not out for us brits yet

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Just ordered it yesterday, online of course, not out for us brits yet

Shouldn't make a difference one would think~

Best thing they did about this DS/GBA business was make them so they aren't region lockable, so being down here in Australia, looking forward to getting me a copy imported in the near future too.

(though hearing of a "official" EU/AUS release in the area of late '08 wouldnt surprise me..)

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Quote (Dark Paladin Danny @ 30th July 2008 05:47)

Just ordered it yesterday, online of course, not out for us brits yet

Shouldn't make a difference one would think~

Best thing they did about this DS/GBA business was make them so they aren't region lockable, so being down here in Australia, looking forward to getting me a copy imported in the near future too.

(though hearing of a "official" EU/AUS release in the area of late '08 wouldnt surprise me..)

Umm... I know it doesn't make a bit of differance, thats WHY I imported it

Also, just got it today! Wheee

WOW. I have it. This game is simply amazing.

Here's a list of all 39 Augments/Decants[Use](How to get them): I put them in spoiler tags because I do need to spoil parts of the story to reveal how to get them.

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1. Darkness [Doubles damage. for every successful hit, lose 10% HP] (Steal from Odin)

2. Recall [casts a spell. chart shown later] (After Tellah vs Golbez showdown)

3. Last Stand [ double defense when HP Critical] (After Tellah vs Golbez showdown and Tellah has one Augment.

4. Fast Talker [Reduces Casting time for Spells and summons] (After Tellah vs Golbez showdown and Tellah has two Augments.

5. Bardsong [Character uses a song. chart shown later] (Recieve after battle with Dark Elf)

6. Salve [Use healing item (Ether, Potion, Pheonix Down) and distribute across entire party (Recieve after battle with Dark Elf; Edward has one Augment)

7. Hide [Hide to avoid being attacked] (Receive after battle with Dark Elf, Edward has two Augments.)

8. Auto-Potion [Use potions upon taking damage] (Given by feverous Rosa in Kaipo)

9. Items Lore [Double effectiveness of items] (Found in where Edward has his solo battle in Kaipo after the battle)

10. Focus [ Double physical attack damage] (Obtained in Sylph Cave)

11. Kick [Attack all enemies. chart shown later] (Obtained in Sylph Cave; Yang has one Augment)

12. Brace [Reduce damage by 75% (a hyper-defend)] (Obtained in Sylph Cave, Yang has two Augments)

13. Counter [Counterattack when attacked] (Given during Story by Yang's wife after battle at Fabul)

14. Twincast [two people cast at same time to land powerful spell. chart shown later] (given by Elder of Mysidia after Cagnazzo battle)

15. Cry [Lowers all enemies defense by half] (Given by Elder of Mysidia after Cagnazzo battle; Porom has one Augment)

16. Bluff [doubles intellect of user] (Given by Elder of Mysidia after Cagnazzo battle; Palom has one Augment)

17. Duelcast [Cast two spells in a row.] (Given by Elder after Cagnazzo battle; three augments given to twins, at least one to each)

18. Curse [Reduce all enemy attributes by 20%; costs 40 MP] (found in Mount Ordeals - Crossing after Cecil becomes a Paladin)

19. Analyze [casts Libra on all enemies for 0 MP] (Obtained after Falcon is modified)

20. Upgrade [Use items to change weapon damage type. chart shown later] (Obtained after Falcon is modified. Cid has one Augment)

21. Adrenaline [Double attack power when HP critical] (Cid has two Augments and Falcon is Modified)

22. Tsunami [Attacks all enemies with Water for 50 MP] (Obtained in Ancient Waterway - B3 after Cagnazzo battle)

23. Gil Farmer [Boost amount of Gil obtained per battle] (Found in secret club in Troia that needs a Member's Writ)

24. Whirlwind [Attacks all enemies with Wind and makes them 50% more weak to Fire. Uses 60 MP] (Found in Crystal Room of LodeStone Cavern after Barbariccia battle)

25. Draw Attacks [Be the sole target of single target physical attacks] (Obtained in Story by King Giott)

26. Reach [Deal the same damage from the back row as if from the front] (Obtained in Developer's Office. You must speak with everyone, fight random battles in both sections, fight challanged battles in both sections and locate the Lustful Lali-Ho magazine on a Bookshelf and place in on the counter in the main room. Reach is then found on ground in the second section)

27. MP + 50% [...] (Found in Mist after returning from Hell/Underground)

28. Inferno [Attack all enemies with Fire, cost 70 MP] (found in Cave of Eblan - Second Passage)

29. Level Lust [Boost EXP earned by party] (Found in Hummingway Abode)

30. Bless [Restore MP to party with rate of 5-10% per turn] (Given in Crystal Palace after Giant of Babil)

31. Omnicasting [target all enemies or allies with any spell. good for Rosa.] (given in Crystal Palace after GIant of Babil. FuSoYa has one Augment)

32. Phoenix [Uses all MP available to revive KO'd party members and restores their health based on how much the Current MP / Max MP percentage is. automatically used when character is KO'd. best given to Kain.](Given in Crystal Palace after Giant of Babil. FuSoYa has two Augmenrs.)

33. Eye Gouge [Inflicts Blind on all enemies] (Give Puddingway the Rainbow Pudding, a 0.4% drop rate item from Flans. Find Puddingway in Lali-ho Pub. speak with him several times. he attacks. defeat him (easy battle) to receive this augment.)

34. ????'s Love {???? are any 4 characters that you get to choose} [Boosts Strength of entire party = to number of times Rydia has summoned Whyt. Cannot be boosted by more than 99] (After obtaining Eye Gauge, go to Feymarch. find Lovingway. enter the 4 characters. Go to Mysidia's Elder's house. talk to Lovingway there. He gives it to you there.)

35. Safe Travel [Completely avoid random encounters] (After obtaining ????'s Love, head to Hummingway Abode and talk to Namingway there a few times. Then he'll randomly appear in a Chocobo Forest, Underground Lake - B1, Mt. Hobs - Summit, Sylph Cave - B2, or Lair of the Father - B1. talk to him at one of those places and he'll give it to you.)

36. HP + 50% [...] (Recieve from Soldier on roof of Baron Castle after GIant of Babil)

37. Treasure Hunter [doubles chance of enemies dropping rare items] (Get 100% on all Maps)

38. Piercing Magic [Bypass Reflect. good for Rydia's Black Magic or Rosa's White Magic] (Obtained at Whyt's house after getting Bahamut summon.)

39. Limit Break [Deal damage exceeding 9999] (Defeat Zeromus, watch the credits, save, and Cecil has at start of game when playing in New Game + Mode. in which everyone already has the augments from the previous playthrough.)

Thanks, DR FF DS! Yeah, the game is amazing.