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Anyone here a fan of the Suikoden series? I'm looking for a collection of all the Old Books from each game.

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I'm a huge fan of the series.

Gamefaqs is your best bet for finding the books in-game. If you're looking for a text dump... shrug.

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This doesnt have anything to do with the topic but, are the Suikoden series any good? Ive never played them before.

If you're a fan of rpg's that force you to work from multiple aspects of combat instead of just a party marching across the globe, then you'll like this series. They all have entertaining storylines, with lots of sidequests and mini games to create playtimes over 100+ hours. Plus, they tie in together, at least somewhat, and each game takes place on a different part of the same planet.

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The thing I like about Suikoden is the story. Most RPGs fall into the same old plot: megalomaniacal bad guy wants to eat the world; we're gonna stop him because we're the good guys. Final Fantasy is notorious for this; even a nice political game like FFXII devolves into this at the end.

Suikoden, on the other hand, is a series about political conflict. Sure, there might be an obvious 'right' side to the player, but the other side almost always has its point, too. Most of the time, the villains you're facing off against aren't very villainous at all--they've just chosen a different side of the conflict for the same reasons that made you choose yours. The shades of grey and themes of sacrifice make me think of Suikoden as a much more mature series than anything else in the RPG genre.

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I have very limited experience with the Suikoden series, personally (having played only one game from it), however what I've seen has amazed me. 208(?) possible party members being recruitable throughout the world is impressive enough, nevermind the fact that some of them bring special bonuses when found (a character that adds minigames, one that adds a teleportation mirror, etc). Add to that combo moves based on who's in your party and a great story, and you've got me hooked.

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The thing I like about Suikoden is the story. Most RPGs fall into the same old plot: megalomaniacal bad guy wants to eat the world; we're gonna stop him because we're the good guys. Final Fantasy is notorious for this; even a nice political game like FFXII devolves into this at the end.

well in that case, i might pick one of them up, after i finish the games i am currently playing. the story is my favorite part and, well, the same old basic plot gets on my nerves.

another question, again off topic, i appologize, if i want to get one, which would anyone advise and why?

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another question, again off topic, i appologize, if i want to get one, which would anyone advise and why?

It's not really off-topic.

Suikoden and Suikoden II are both on the PS1. Suikoden II is very hard to find and expensive, but it's my favorite in the series. If you're going to bother obtaining it, I'd play the first one first, as there's some interconnectivity.

Suikoden III has some connectivity with Suikoden II (these three games are all in order in the series timeline), but the overall style and gameplay are different. Some people like it, some people don't. It's not a good place to start if you want to get a feel for the series as a whole.

Suikoden IV is by far the low point of the series. The story is the lamest and the mechanics--especially the random encounter rate--make the game almost unplayable. This game is a prequel to all of the others by quite some time, and there's not much that will make you feel that the stories are connected.

There's also a Suikoden IV spinoff called Suikoden Tactics. The story is peripherally related to Suikoden IV and even more distant from the main thrust of the series. As you'd expect from the name, the gameplay is sort of an FFT clone. The fighting isn't bad, but the story and sidequests are pathetic, and the game is really short.

Suikoden V is a bit on the easy side. Other than that, it's fabulous. The story is back up to snuff, they've repaired the system mechanics, and it's just really fun to play. It's a prequel to the first Suikoden game by a few years, and it gives a little bit of background on a few of the minor characters who show up in Suikoden and Suikoden II.

In each game, you recruit 108 "stars of destiny", many of whom will be playable, to populate your castle. There are several characters who appear in more than one game, and a few who appear in all five. For character interaction, you probably want to play the games in the order they came out, not in order of the timeline (which, just in case you missed it, goes 4 5 1 2 3).

Personally, I'd recommend starting with the first and second games and skipping the fourth entirely. As long as you don't start with the fourth, or start with the third and expect the other games to be anything like it, you'll be fine.

This post has been edited by karasuman on 6th August 2007 22:26

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I'd have to agree, Suikoden II is by far the best of the series, though the first one is definately in my top fave games. Personally, start from the beginning. Even though the timeline bounces around, they will all make sense as you play them.

Enjoy.

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I Wanna play Suikoden Now..

yeah, i've been reading reviews for several RPG's lately and the suikoden games mentioned are at the top of my list. i am a big fan of a good plot, and i don't mind if a game is a little easy, though games that are too hard annoy me (vagrant story... i love it so much, but the hardness tortures me!). which has the best story?

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Wouldn't it be nice if that PSP compilation of Suikoden 1 and 2 was released over here with new translations? S1 doesn't really need it, but S2 has enough gawd-awfullness to cover for it. Other games are have awkward language and omissions, but at least they don't fail to translate some of the dialogue, leaving gibberish kanji encoding to fill the void. It really says something about the quality of the story that no one seems to mind.

The characters are awesome, even the minor ones. Shu = . Nash also = . Siera rules.

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I'll gladly join in on the praise of Suikoden!

Suikoden and Suikoden II are my favorites with Suikoden III coming in, well, third. Suikoden IV is definitely the dog of this series unfortunately. It wasn't a complete loss as an RPG but man what a let down as a Suikoden game. Come Konami! You should have done better!

Suikoden II easily makes it into the top three best console RPGs of all time in my book. I think it's absolutely brilliant, although since it will run you probably over a hundred bucks or more to land a copy I'd recommend getting Suikoden I first because a). Suikoden I is an excellent game in it's own right, . if you've played Suikoden I then it will help you appreciate Suikoden II all the more, and c). if you find that Suikoden I isn't really your thing then you probably shouldn't shell out the big bucks for Suikoden II.

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Wouldn't it be nice if that PSP compilation of Suikoden 1 and 2 was released over here with new translations? S1 doesn't really need it, but S2 has enough gawd-awfullness to cover for it. Other games are have awkward language and omissions, but at least they don't fail to translate some of the dialogue, leaving gibberish kanji encoding to fill the void. It really says something about the quality of the story that no one seems to mind.

I think it would be great if they did some sort of rerelease of the first two games since they're kind of rare (especially Suikoden II) even if it meant my PS1 copy lost it's value. I'd rather share the love than have bragging rights about how my game in the original package is worth 130-150 dollars.

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I'm eager to try out the Suikoden series as well. But as mentioned before, it will be hard to get a copy of every game in the series. Suikoden I and II are very rare, and Suikoden was never released in Europe. Hm, maybe an emulator?

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