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Posted: 7th August 2007 18:36


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have anyone had a thaught that it not spells narshe, it spells narce.

i saw this when i watched a trailer on psx happy.gif

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Posted: 7th August 2007 19:23

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Was The Trailer in a diffrent Language?
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Posted: 7th August 2007 19:53

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Translation is an inexact science. "Narche" is not an uncommon way of translating the name, and to realize that Square's translation teams are sometimes inconsistent is hardly a revelation.

This comes from the opening trailer on the PSX game. You can probably find it on Youtube.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:15

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Better question-- Is it pronounced "narsh", "narshay" or something else altogether? I've been saying "narshay" simply because I though it sounded better.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:20
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Better question-- Is it pronounced "narsh", "narshay" or something else altogether? I've been saying "narshay" simply because I though it sounded better.

Based on the way it's written in Japanese, it should be pronounced "narshay." I still say "narsh."

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:24

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I said "narsh" in my first um... half playthru (I got mad I killed Shadow and started over, only to realize I killed Shadow again by waiting long enough on FC but selecting Jump instead of Wait. I literally kicked myself.) but now I'm partial to narshay. Frivolous, I know, but I'm a random sorta guy.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:28

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Based on the way it's written in Japanese, it should be pronounced "narshay." I still say "narsh."


im a "narsh" guy. it didn't even occur to me that it could be pronounced differently, but now that i read this, "narshay" sounds kinda, well, fishy.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:40

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Fishy like how? It sounds French. If it smells of anything, it's cheesey! tongue.gif

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:44

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I personally pronounce it "NAR shee". So, "KAYvs awf NAR shee".

And as R51 said, translation isn't an exact science, and Squenix occasionally doesn't seem to translate things in ways that make the most sense.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:44

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Likewise, I've always pronounced it "narsh", and, well, I don't like the sound of "narshay", to be honest. huh.gif

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Posted: 8th August 2007 02:46

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A couple things about the opening AMV (it was pretty, but still), this being one of them. The other was that TERRA WAS BLONDE! Why!? Both her sprite and menu portrait have blue hair. It makes sense for two reasons:

A: She's a Japanese character.

B: She's half Esper, her hair could be plaid and it wouldn't stick out in her culture of origin.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:03

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A couple things about the opening AMV (it was pretty, but still), this being one of them. The other was that TERRA WAS BLONDE! Why!? Both her sprite and menu portrait have blue hair. It makes sense for two reasons:

A: She's a Japanese character.

B: She's half Esper, her hair could be plaid and it wouldn't stick out in her culture of origin.

The Terra hair issue is an old one. Amano draws her blonde, and his designs were the basis for the FMV.

Although, if you look closely, her hair does have a bit of a green (not blue) shimmer in the FMVs, which is a nice touch. Clearly not as acceptable as her having actual green hair, but still. I think it was established that her sprite has green hair to differentiate her from Celes and Relm, who both have blonde hair (though the latter has a hat).

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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:05

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Relm's blonde? I always thought she had Locke-ish gray/brown hair...

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"Bender cracked corn and I don't care; Fry cracked corn and I don't care; Leila cracked corn and I don't care take that you stupid corn!" ~Bender: Futurama
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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:05

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Can we please try to keep this somehow related to the topic here? I'm looking at you, Fighter-Douken.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:08

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Sorry, my mind tends to wander. While there's a natural line of logic (we start with translation inconsistencies, then we get to the opening AMV, then to Terra's hair, then hair for all the female characters... you get the idea) That being said, I'm done.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:12

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I Always thought that it was Pronounced Narsh not Narshay.
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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:17

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Fishy like how? It sounds French. If it smells of anything, it's cheesey! 


well it just sounds just a little odd to me. like funny sounding. just personal opinion of course, since it isn't that big of a deal. i'll just cross my fingers for a version of FFVI to someday feature voice acting. that way, this can be set semi-straight.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 03:20

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I got your meaning, I was just making a chee-- er... corny joke. I think the best explanation for the whole deal is just a brief bout of bad translation in general. For God's sakes it opens with

Command to the Empire Force in particular...

I mean... It's not "All Your Base Are Belong To Us!" bad but it's a much milder form of such things.

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Posted: 8th August 2007 09:55

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I always thought it was NAR-SHER
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Posted: 8th August 2007 17:55

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After pronouncing anything a certain way for 13 years, the alternatives are going to sound strange. I went with nar-shee for years, but I take the fact that I was in Junior high at the time as an excuse.

There are pronunciation guidelines, albeit loose ones. Most names are based on Japanese equivalents, where pronunciation is self-evident. I've been trying to bring myself in line with that.

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