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Forgive me if this topic has been posted before, I'm very new to this board and I apologize for not wanting to search every last page for a similar thread

I'm sure most of you know about an alternate ending to the game - one you can get by defeating Kefka with a limited number of characters (ie Celes, Sabin and Setzer). I'm wondering, has anyone here actually achieved this? If so, what is the ending like? I'm very curious >:)

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Unmarked spoilers here. I assume that anyone who's walked into a topic marked "ending" is ready for them.

It's only a different ending in the sense that any characters you're missing will just show up with a portrait in front of some important landmark, rather than having an escape scene, and they won't be on the airship, of course. The exceptions are Terra and the joint endings:

• Terra shows up before the escape anyway, and her scenes play out as normal from there.
• Setzer saves Celes instead of Locke, and she wonders if he's alive.
• The others help Edgar with the beam (IIRC?) and he says that his brother would've been useful there.

That's roughly how it goes, I think. It's been a while since I've seen it.

Following Tiddles:

Celes, Relm and Edgar both have scenes together with resp. Locke, Strago and Sabin. They have different scenes playing without them.

Edgar evades a falling beam and after Celes and Setzer have helped him push it aside and he has hurried both Celes and Setzer through the door with the words "Ladies first!", he'll say: "Where's SABIN when you need him?"

Celes almost goes down on the falling tile, but Setzer to the rescue:

SETZER: Don't fall!
Remember, you promised me you'd do your "Maria" act again!
You almost ate it trying to pick up that silly trinket!
SETZER: What a woman!
Your life is hanging by a bandana!
CELES: This is my good luck charm...When I found this, my life took a turn for the better...
CELES: LOCKE...
Promise me someday you'll look after me again?!

Relm is having trouble with the automatic transporter, and the obligatary character jump over her:

RELM: I won't be done in by an older woman! (Celes jumps)
RELM: Wait a minute, lover boy! (Edgar jumps)
RELM: You can't just throw me aside! (Setzer jumps)
RELM: How about a nice portrait for you, hmm?! (All hurry back to avoid such terrible fate...why do they think those pictures will still attack?)




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In Relm's ending, is the character she interacts with totally random if Strago isn't present? When I beat the game without Strago, she interacted with Mog (called him a Teddy Bear if I recall correctly), but all the other times I've gotten Strago, so he's in the scene by default.

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And behold, I saw a Pale Gaming System, and the name of he who rode it was Squaresoft, and Enix followed him.

She interacts with all three, since all of them jump over her and receive a Relm comment. She doesn't interact with Mog (or any other character) as she doesn't have the lines to do so.

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But she did interact with Mog. I might point out that Strago, Umaro, and Gogo were the only characters I didn't have. I have never seen Relm interact with Celes, Edgar, or Setzer in the escape endings.

Just telling you what I saw.

This post has been edited by sharkerbob on 3rd July 2004 20:13

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And behold, I saw a Pale Gaming System, and the name of he who rode it was Squaresoft, and Enix followed him.

Like I've said before, the game holds no lines to support such a scene. I've personally seen the scene where Relm gets mad at all three, and no Mog. It wouldn't make lot of sense anyway, since Relm and Mog have no character development together, and Mog is completely optional safe for the very first part of the game.

Celes, Edgar and Setzer are the only three character you need for completing the game. If you pay attention, you'll see that one or more of these three will be running around in every scene there is.

I'm sure that you're not just lying, but I'm also sure that this is not in the normal game. It could've been a hack, or it could've been a piece of fanfiction you're confused with. At any rate, this scene is not in the game.

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Hmm... well, if you've looked through the programming and he lines and stuff, I guess you know what your takling about, but I know I didn't just get it from a fanfiction. I don't think the ROM was hacked, though. Well, whatever, it doesn't matter. But I know for a fact, I didn't have Strago, but I didn't see Relm with the other three during her escape. Maybe I blinked.

But Mog doesn't make much sense, either, and I remember wondering why I saw them paired together; guess I could be mixing things up.

I did notice on the first time I saw it that Sezter, Edgar, and/or Celes are in every scene. I wondered at that until I found out a little while later you only needed those three to beat the game.

Guess I'll go back and try to get the alternate Relm ending, too see what I see.

(Oh, and I think the areas the portraits are showed with are the areas where you were supposed to find the characters).

This post has been edited by sharkerbob on 4th July 2004 19:45

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And behold, I saw a Pale Gaming System, and the name of he who rode it was Squaresoft, and Enix followed him.

i've heard that if cid dosent die while you are on the island that it will change her ending and it will change more if you dont get locke. i also have heard that gogos changes if you dont get umaros ending. so dose mog if you dont get umaro. i also know that shadows ending does change if you get all the dreams. he says something like i can finally put my past to rest now and enjoy the new world. and then he runs to the airship. i know cause i saw it happen on a non hacked game cartridge. do you guys also know if its true that terras portion of the ending changes if you dont get all the magicites that you just get the ones you need to get normally and then feniri when you get terra?



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None of this is true except for Celes' ending changing depending on the presence of Locke. In general, the only endings that can change are ones involving the "credit" for more than one character (Celes/Locke, Edgar/Sabin) or where you can see more than one non-Celes/Edgar/Setzer character during the scene (bolded since Djibriel missed it ).

This post has been edited by Tiddles on 9th July 2004 18:49

You forgot Relm/Strago

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then what is the purpos of saveing cid?

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Don't fear the reaper!
Wonderful system this "Democracy" is no mechanism to break a tie -Dinobot-
It's spelled Raymond Luxray Yatch but it's pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove.
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Sic Semper Tyrannis bush.

Whoops...

There is none. Kill him and he'll be gone, make him survive and he'll pace around in his little house repeating a single line.

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Quote (Lockes AlterEgo @ 11th July 2004 18:22)

then what is the purpos of saveing cid?

To me, it's much better to let Cid die anyway. The scene with Celes if Cid dies is SO much cooler than the scene where he doesn't. But maybe I'm just cruel. >:)

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Does anyone know what the Japanese version of the whole Cid living thing was? I read elsewhere on this forum that if he dies, instead of jumping off the cliff of joy to spice things up or however it went... it actually said she was trying to kill herself.

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instead of jumping off the cliff of joy to spice things up or however it went... it actually said she was trying to kill herself.

She did it to kill herself. Period. The term "spicing things up" is a nice term for suicide.

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So, wait a minute. Does this mean that to get the different end-scenes you have to fight Kefka with just Sabin Celes and Setzer, or do you have to avoid adding the other characters back onto your team in the WoR?

.... I didn't think you could avoid getting Edgar.... but, basically, what do you do?

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You avoid getting Sabin, Locke, and Strago. These will trigger alternate endings for Celes, Edgar, and Relm.

You absolutely must beat the game using Edgar, Celes, and Setzer.

If I missed any, feel free to add any changes, but I think that's all you need to do.

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And behold, I saw a Pale Gaming System, and the name of he who rode it was Squaresoft, and Enix followed him.