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Viacom sues YouTube for alleged you-know-what
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Posted: 14th March 2007 01:03
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I said you have the right to protect your copyrights, but there's a gray line in how far you can go.
Not crossing that line is asking it to take down clips of their stuff. But that's not what Viacom did. Viacom crossed it long ago when they asked YouTube to take down PARODIES of their stuff, including an episode of the independent "The Happy Show" which is called "The Happy Real Life World" and is a parody of reality TV shows. Even though YouTube is removing videos, that's not enough for Viacom it seems. Now they want a billion dollars from YouTube. A billion dollars? No, I'm not joking. Despite the fact that these corporations are making enemy after enemy every day, they still don't realize they have to give up. They won't stop until all the film in the world is owned by either Viacom, CBS, NBC, Disney, Fox, or Turner. Bullying indie filmmakers into submission is what they're doing. That's their goal, not protecting their copyrights. Why else would the suit be for a ridiculous amount of money? This is like ransom! -CSM -------------------- The NEW Final Fantasy Wiki! Join us! |
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Posted: 14th March 2007 01:14
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Boo. >< Parodies =/= serious business, Viacom!
They're well within their rights to not want their stuff being posted on Youtube without permission, but filing a billion dollar lawsuit in spite of Youtube doing what it can to comply? That's just crazy. -------------------- Come with me so I can show you how to live Burning the candle at both ends I’m gripping at the walls around me Don’t complicate it I’m addicted to this life I’ll be your token of attention All my lies come down to this -Orgy, "Beautiful Disgrace" |
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Post #145995
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Posted: 14th March 2007 01:21
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Parodies are protected under copyright law. Doing so using the copyrighted content (actual clips from the show, for instance) isn't.
That article doesn't seem to talk much about the parody issue. -------------------- Veni, vidi, dormivi. |
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Post #145997
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Posted: 14th March 2007 02:19
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It depends on the size of the clip. For example, the 4 to 10 second butchered, barely audiable clips YTMND uses don't violate copyright at all.
There's a line between protecting your profits and wanting to make a few extra bucks. This is one of the videos they said violated their copyright. It's called the "Real Happy Life World," and is just a part of an independent show, the "Happy Show." Judge for yourself whether or not this is protected parody. It contains absolutely NO Viacom content, and is uploaded BY ITS CREATOR. -CSM This post has been edited by Crazyswordsman on 14th March 2007 02:23 -------------------- The NEW Final Fantasy Wiki! Join us! |
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Post #146001
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Posted: 14th March 2007 03:18
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Isn't Viacom the same people who own VH1, MTV, and BET(among other numerous things). so that they can attempt to force feed teens the same bilge on every channel.
Viacom is simply ran by people who have ingested too much lead. So after screwing out of MTV, and somewhat leaving us with VH1 both truly shells of their ormer glory, they want to take away our newest enjoyment, youtube. Suck it Viacom. -------------------- "Have you ever seen a baby do that before?" |
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Post #146007
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Posted: 14th March 2007 04:19
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I honestly think it's not about protecting their copyrights. They want to do something very evil, and I don't know what it is. -CSM
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Post #146009
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Posted: 14th March 2007 04:32
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1.5 billion dollars is a far cry from just wanting to get your copyright respected. Also, I didn't see anything wrong with that video in terms of violating copyright. On another note, though...
Viacom, apparently, sent a email to the owner of that particular video an "apology" detailing how they "un wrongfully" marked his video. It brought up a interesting point. Besides the estimated number of copyright infringing videos, what's the estimated margin of error if they ended up marking that video out of the vast amount of others? Quote Suck it Viacom. Cheers to that! -------------------- "Space for Rent" |
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Post #146010
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Posted: 14th March 2007 13:35
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There were other videos, too. Just go to YouTube, search "Viacom" and you'll come up with a lot of video complaints that Viacom tagged their non-Viacom video. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is trying to get victims of Viacom's attack to fight them. -CSM
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Posted: 14th March 2007 19:27
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I am somehow reminded of Rupert Murdoch.
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Post #146054
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Posted: 15th March 2007 23:43
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My respect for large, wealthy, powerful media conglomerates dwindles further, and Viacom is not helping their image.
Wait, they're suing someone for making a parody of reality shows IN GENERAL? Just because they're making fun of the entire genre? What the extraordinarily freaking hell? -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Post #146115
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Posted: 16th March 2007 03:20
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Hmm well if there going after Parodies in GENERAL then something tells me that Newgrounds will be a "delicous" target.
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Post #146117
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Posted: 16th March 2007 04:30
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Quote (Quad @ 14th March 2007 15:27) I am somehow reminded of Rupert Murdoch. Hardly. Rupert Murdoch strikes me as the type to let something like this roll. In fact, I think R.Murd has offered to buy Youtube. He also seems to think Myspace video is going to overtake Youtube. The point is, say what you will about The times they are a'changin, and Murdoch is all over it. That's why he's going to make more money than god, and the other companies are going to get left in the dust. (Ted Turner has a foot in the door with AS.) I think Viacom and all the other companies who are having shit conniptions about this are going to lose out in the long run. It's scary because it's putting more and more of the free internet in to the hands of the few. I mean, what's net neutrality worth when one person owns the whole internet anyhow? Conservatism fails again. -------------------- If you've been mod-o-fied, It's an illusion, and you're in-between. Don't you be tarot-fied, It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean? ~Frank Zappa Sins exist only for people who are on the Way or approaching the Way |
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Post #146120
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Posted: 16th March 2007 20:23
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Quote (MogMaster @ 16th March 2007 00:30) Conservatism fails again. Wait, what happened to the meaning of "economic conservatism" as "leaving it [the market] alone"? -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Post #146142
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Posted: 16th March 2007 20:34
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Not sure if this has been brought up yet (I'm sick and feverish - I actually stayed home yesterday, and that's certainly a first for me!) but am I the only one feeling like this is an intimidation tactic that will shortly be followed up by an offer by Viacom to buy YouTube? Wouldn't surprise me.
Either way, I don't think Viacom stands much of a chance with their case. As someone said, parodies are protected by copyright laws under certain circumstances which, I believe, were respected in this case. Maybe it's just going to be one of those court things that go nowhere and turn out being a battle between who can keep spending money to keep the case going longest. Watch Viacom then attempt to assimilate YouTube... Meh. Time to head home, take an aspirin or two, and sleep. :s -------------------- "Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession and the likelyhood of him sharing." |
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Post #146144
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Posted: 16th March 2007 21:43
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Quote (Silverlance @ 16th March 2007 16:34) Not sure if this has been brought up yet (I'm sick and feverish - I actually stayed home yesterday, and that's certainly a first for me!) but am I the only one feeling like this is an intimidation tactic that will shortly be followed up by an offer by Viacom to buy YouTube? Wouldn't surprise me. Either way, I don't think Viacom stands much of a chance with their case. As someone said, parodies are protected by copyright laws under certain circumstances which, I believe, were respected in this case. Maybe it's just going to be one of those court things that go nowhere and turn out being a battle between who can keep spending money to keep the case going longest. Watch Viacom then attempt to assimilate YouTube... Meh. Time to head home, take an aspirin or two, and sleep. :s Bolded for emphasis. No. I doubt they could buy youtube, as google has owned it since November. I can't see them buying Google. -------------------- Squenix games completed: Final Fantasy: 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, Tactics Advance 2 Chrono Trigger Dragon Quest: 7, 8, 11 Super Mario RPG |
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Post #146153
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Posted: 16th March 2007 21:45
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GMH- I meant "conservatism" in the sense that they're refusing to move forward with technology. As in- "Getting with the times."
Sorry, I should have clarified. -------------------- If you've been mod-o-fied, It's an illusion, and you're in-between. Don't you be tarot-fied, It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean? ~Frank Zappa Sins exist only for people who are on the Way or approaching the Way |
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