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To Drink or not to Drink?

Posted: 1st January 2007 02:39

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Ok,hears the deal. Since i dont drink, alot of people pressure me into drinking. But i dont. Not even when i celibrate. I think that if you need to drink to have a good time, it means that your not creative and are just falling in line with everyone else.
Agree with this?

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Posted: 1st January 2007 02:48

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Sure, you can have a good time and not drink.

But, when the two can be easily combined...why? biggrin.gif

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Posted: 1st January 2007 03:09

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I don't consider drinking all that fun to begin with.

Aside from making you feel like shit the next day, it just makes you retarded.

For awhile, I would just go to parties and enjoy being the sober one. My going to parties in general is pretty rare, so generally, people like me being on top of my mind so I can make them laugh while they're drunk.

I suggest you go with what you feel like, but if you're secure enough, and you're friend's aren't dicks, nobody should mind you not drinking. That's just my 2 cents.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 03:14

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thats my point. I mean who wants to act retarded anyway? Like people always say "its fun getting drunk". HAH! not really, like i was drunk once and i tried fighting my friends. It was messed. All it does is messes with your liver and mind. It does no good. And people are always trying to be individuals, but the majority seem to not get passed societies demands. I dont care if you drink, just dont pressure me to drink, otherwise ill beat you! thanks for listening, anybody got anything else to add?

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Posted: 1st January 2007 03:14

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to be honest, drinking is rarely worth the shit you have to go through the next day smile.gif

I do enjoy getting pissed and losing control though, which is the great thing about drinking. Who cares about being retarded when drinking itself is an excuse for being it, and youre having a good time!

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Posted: 1st January 2007 03:37

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All it does is messes with your liver and mind. It does no good. And people are always trying to be individuals, but the majority seem to not get passed societies demands. I dont care if you drink, just dont pressure me to drink, otherwise ill beat you! thanks for listening, anybody got anything else to add?


Umm, yeah. Maybe you should be telling your friends this instead of a bunch of strangers online. Cool. Don't drink. Just quit pruding up everyone's new year. I can't go anywhere these days without someone griping about booze and drinkin' it. I mean, so what if I just threw up on your mom? And so what if I'm naked? Just having a good time man, gawd...


Oh, and the bandying about of the term "retarded" in this thread is rather backward. Just throw around some racial slurs while you're at it.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 03:52

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I don't ever plan on drinking, not because I belive it's morally wrong (I do believe it's wrong to get drunk and abuse alchohol) but because one side of my family is prone to alchoholism. I don't think I want to find out if I'm alchoholic, and if I never take a drink, I won't have to worry about it.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 04:05

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Damn, let's keep it civil here. And I'm talking to you, Goose and UTG.

I am underage, and I drink on occasion. Several of my friends, some of which aren't underage, don't drink, and one of my best friends has resolved to teetotal for their entire life. And all of us are cool with that. Drinking can be fun and it can make you do some things that you'll regret later. But whether you choose to or not, anyone that's trying to pressure you to drink can go to hell. It's your own decision.

But you don't need to be obnoxious about not drinking either. Alcoholic drinks are depressants. They can soothe, they can taste delicious, and they can help people remove some inhibitions. Too much is a very bad thing, of course, but if you make sure to always be around people that you trust when you go drinking, and have a ride home that won't be provided by someone inebriated, then you can usually enjoy yourself.

Sometimes after a night of drinking too much I've ended up doing things I've regretted later, but most of the time I follow those rules and have a good time, and it almost never involves anything awful like bouts of vomiting or unexpected sexual intercourse.

So whatever, I've started rambling. The point is, be careful when you drink, always drink surrounded by people you can trust, and try to avoid stupid crap like drinking and driving. And don't be a jackass about drinking or about not drinking. That won't win you any friends. At least not any good ones.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 04:21

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I'm also underage, and I just won't do it. I've heard many stories of people my age drinking and sure they had fun, but they've also had to pay for it. I'm not willing to take that risk and I'm honestly afraid of how I'd act. I don't think that drinking solves any problems, it just makes them go away for a while and come back worse. Don't give in to peer pressure because it can ruin your life, though I can't say much because no one has tried to pressure me in to drinking before.

Just do what you think is right, I guess.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 04:43

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As somebody who's done "harder" drugs than alcohol, I have to say, I wouldn't worry about how you'll act when you're drunk. Controlling yourself is easy enough, it's a matter of not having to that makes it fun. There are only a couple drugs I'd say it'd be damn hard to control yourself on, and alcohol hardly counts. No matter how drunk I've ever been, I never found it hard to make a decision that matters. There ARE drugs out there that I don't think it's possible to do and still function in public. People drink all the time and still manage to do things. They're called alcoholics, and can be seen sneaking sips from hip flasks. Anybody who says they just "lost control" when they were drunk, is lying to you. Bugger the Mel Gibson defense.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 04:55

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Meh, my theory on drinking, underage or otherwise, is the same as my theory on pretty much everything else. If you wanna do it, go for it, and if you don't want to, don't, but if you're going to be on your moral high horse, keep your mouth shut.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 05:36

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I wouldn't advise it but that's the opinion of a 15 year old who doesen't drink wink.gif
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Posted: 1st January 2007 06:42

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I am underage, and I drink on occasion.

Hard evidence. The cops will be at your house shortly.


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Posted: 1st January 2007 07:36

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Kay, I'm underage, and I have friends who drink. One in particular, the ringleader of that group, drinks, smokes, does drugs, etc...and then she whines and moans and complains about how it's so horrible (her life, that is) and gets angry at everyone. She's also fast on the track to Anorexia.

This is not the sort of thing I want happening to me. So I'm staying away from all that. Anyone who wants to drink, that's their decision, but I respectfully disagree with it.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 09:14

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Drinking is fun. I drank a lot tonight. But I'll definitely agree that alcohol isn't everything. I've had fun without being drunk and I will again... however alcohol is a fun way to enhance your enjoyment. At the same time, it shouldn't become a crutch. It's important to have personality when you're sober, and to be able to enjoy life without it. I won't go into the details about hangovers and all that, but that's a good indication that you've had too much.

PS, quad: I don't think alcohol is the problem in your friend's case, I just think she's looking for a solution to deeper problems. Just because she drinks alcohol, it doesn't mean alcohol is causing those problems.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 09:29

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I'm 25 years old and I don't drink. I've tried on occasion and I tried to enjoy it but it just doesn't work for me. It is kind of entertaining watching other people be drunk sometimes, though , all goofy and uninhibited. There is still the cold hard reality that bad things can and do happen at times. I don't care if saying that "prudes it up" or ruins anyone's New Years either.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 09:35

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Drinking is just something that oils gears, and breaks ice. For example, last night I went to a party with a bunch of my old high school friends that I hadn't seen in 3 years. It was pretty awkward at first, and it was all chit-chat. No one really knew what to say. So you tap the keg, start playing quarters or card games and Bam, we're high fiving and having fun just like old times and nothing had changed.


For me, it's not the drinking that's fun. It's the games, the excitement and the like that goes with it especially in competitive games like Flippy Cup or Beer Pong. Drinking just adds to it. Drinking by itself? Meh, yeah people like to "take the edge off" at the end of the day, but drinking by myself is something I haven't done since I was 16. Just don't let people make decisions for you, and you'll be fine.



Here's the other thing, drinking seems to intensify the memories and give them an absolutely rosy-positive polish that wouldn't have been there otherwise. I can look back to last night and remember how I was hugging people I hadn't seen in so long by the end and how I now have a bum leg from trying to do a backflip during Beat It. And it brings a smile.




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Posted: 1st January 2007 12:13

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I'm also 25 and don't drink. Well, that's not completely accurate. I will sometimes have one drink with meals, but that probably still averages to less than 10 drinks per year.

When you're a teenager though, a lot of your peers have not yet realized that not everyone loves drinking, and that in fact some people don't like it at all. This can be annoying. But you certainly don't need to give them what they want.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 13:42

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Drinking can be an enjoyable pastime when with friends or at a party or watching a game.

Drinking to excess isn't wise, but I'll not lambast someone for it. You know your limits better than anyone else.

I will throw out there though that we need stiffer penalties for drunk driving.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 14:39

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I drink once every few months. And when I do I sometimes get quite tipsy but I always make sure I can't do any damage to anyone or anything, we still have our responsibilities.

And if people want to drink all the time, that's up to them, I don't have a problem with it personally, as long as they don't hurt others in the process or start causing major problems.

Had a fella the other night who couldn't control himself due to drink and was kicking signs down and throwing his fists around, screaming and swearing,etc. It's a good way to get arrested that's for sure. That's what I told him as we put the handcuffs on. Not sure if he understood though.

Usually I stick to orange juice myself, I find I prefer the taste anyway.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 15:02

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I don't drink and I don't go to my classmates' "drinking parties" because I dislike seeing people drunk. When I was a child my father used to drink a lot more than now and when he arrived late at night I usually spied on him and he seemed so pathetic, calling his family (in Italy) to tell them he loved them and things like that. Since those times I swore to myself I wouldn't get drunk for the sake of having fun (my friends and I have more fun makings pizzas than my classmates had when drinking and vomiting) and since those day, I have disliked to see people (specially people I know) drunk, I think it's pretty sad .
Anyway, if I have to drink, I'll do it, but I wouldn't drink to the extent of getting drunk because I don't feel it would do me any good.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 16:18

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Drinking responsibly is okay. These days I drink some at weekends - when I can afford it - back the the day I used to glug a stupid number of units... I grew out of it. I don't look down on anyone who gets themselves into a complete state - and likewise those who refuse all drinks. Some people can be arses about it either way. Drinkers aren't dumasses or retards - they're business owners, politicians, surgeons, therapists, etc.

I wouldn't associate drinking with a good time. One of the best nights out I've had was one where I only drank a small whiskey in one of the bars. My dads advice sticks with me on this one; and is totally true: "Son, the sober ones are the ones who get the best girls at the end of the night." What can I add?



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Posted: 1st January 2007 16:48
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I like to drink. I drink pretty often and see nothing wrong with it (as those who frequent CoNchat may know). I'll go out at the weekend to a party or to the pub and get drunk, have a bit of a dance, chant a football chant, steal a roadsign, maybe take my pants off - and I'm still leading a normal, healthy life. I do well at school, I've got a close group of friends, all that. It's very unlikely that drinking's going to destroy your life unless you have absolutely no self-control. I've never had a bad experience with alcohol, and I think some people are making too big a deal out of drinking.

Sure, you might have a drink and end up acting the ass, but you're not gonna totally lose control. I drink with friends, they drink too, they know what sort of a drunk I am and I've never woken up thinking 'Oh, how embarrassing.' I've never known anyone to lose all self-control. Like MogMaster was saying, having a drink is not going to make you a complete mess completely unable to rationalise or understand anything. I'm always quite in control of myself and my responses when drunk. I'm not necessarily in control of my legs - I'm a fally-over drunk - but drinking is not going to make you into this whole other person.

I have fun when I'm sober, too, of course. If you don't want to drink, then cool, that's up to you. No-one should pressure you into drinking, but I also don't think people should take this 'Oh, if you need drink to have a good time you have no creativity' approach, or be afraid of how you'll act. If you decide to have a drink one night, and don't go overboard, it's not going to ruin your life. Likewise, UTG, you need to tell your friends that if you don't want to drink then it's not the end of the world, they need to grow up and respect your decision and realise that it doesn't affect them in any way.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 17:14

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I've been a non-drinker for a long time, and when pressed I could definately start ranting about the dangers of alcohol back then. When you drink, that's because you're not good enough to have a good time without it. When you drink, that's just because you want to fit in. When you drink, you're an idiot. Hey ho!

For me, that didn't turn out to be true. I drink on occassion; this year there are a lot of occassions, too. I've had moments I was totally hammered. Not once have I felt bad about drinking. I don't make an ass out of myself, throw up, do things I wouldn't normally do. Alcohol to me is just another way of getting to know yourself. Alcohol has the nice ability to blur boundaries. Not the kind of "I should totally get naked and run around right now", but more of the "Why are we sitting here and not having a good time like we could be having if only I got the ball rolling?"

To me, the danger of alcohol lies in other people. It's hard to judge exactly how drunk another person is, and you could without knowing it pressure a person into making a decession they'd normally not make in such a way.

In the end, the best times are when you're sober, no doubt. But it can be awesome to cross that line in the sand once in a while.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 17:19

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If you dont drink that awsome. No one should be pressured into anything they dont want to do. I drink once in a while, get sh!t faced, and go home. One thing that makes me a unique drunk is that some how i retain commen sense and logic. Things i would think are a bad idea are still bad ideas even after 6 jagbombs. And i ALWAYS call a cab.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 17:46

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Yesterday's/early today's party was a good look at what drinking does. And doesn't.

One of my friends at the party got totally drunk early on, kept drinking, lost his cell phone's battery cap during the party and tore the place (another friends house) apart trying to find it. Almost literally. Paul, the host of the party, Nick, one of my best friends and me seriously wanted to give him a serious beating, mostly because he wouldn't listen listen to "sit down, we'll find it".
Another friend at the party showed something completely different - he drank about half of the entire party's dose of alcohol and was absolutely sober. His alcohol tolerance is the stuff of legends, okay, but he knows his own limits, saying, that he would never, EVER let himself drink until was falling down (NOT impossible, but expensive).

But I digress.

I myself am an emotional drunk - either hyper happy, or nauseatingly sad, although my motoric abilities don't falter at all (okay, maybe they do later. Much later, though)
I don't drink to get drunk (anymore - grew out of that) - I drink for the taste. I like a good beer, I enjoy the occasional Jack Daniels, mead is my alcoholic beverage of choice etc. etc.

As it has been said, whether you drink or not, it's your business, don't be a jerk about either.

By the way, my behaviour when sober at some parties has resulted in people asking "What are you drinking/smoking?". Most people can't imagine, that one can be completely uninhibited without the intake of alcohol.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 17:53

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A lot of you are really focusing on the aspect of drinking where you go completely overboard and don't stop drinking all night, and I'm assuming that those of you with that awesome view from your high horse and your notions about drinking making you an idiot, have probably not experienced it more than once, or have completely overdone it.

I drink because it is fun. I am a responsible drinker. I don't drink to get drunk, I drink to loosen up and to perhaps break ice with people whom I maybe would not have talked to so easily before. I am of legal age and It is a social pasttime and is as enjoyable as the next thing if done in moderation.

If that makes me uncreative and retarded, then it makes you stubborn and narrow-minded, if not someone who has no idea what they're talking about or has abused it. If you hate it so much, don't do it, but don't judge those who do. It makes you look like the jerk.

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Posted: 1st January 2007 18:55

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Most of the first posts were terribly aiming at drink = getting drunk. For those who say drinking is dumb, you are saying most of the people, including almost everyone I know are idiots? maybe you should clarify yourself.

Drinking will multiply your current emotional state, lower your intelligence, lower your reflexes. While getting dumber, this has a great potential on more intelligent people. It makes everything lighter, you will laugh at easy jokes when you normally wouldn't and have fun with nothing. Yet, with some people, it can enhance some of their abilities. How is this bad?

Abusing alcohol times to times isn't a bad thing in itself either. If you don't mind a headache the next morning and falling times to times when you walk, there should be no problem if you are actually brilliant enough not to do the most idiotic thing of the year. Humiliation isn't even something to bother.

I wonder ever do drugs in my entire life. That's my choice. It tends to be a tad annoying when you get ask many times but it's nothing that will make the night less enjoyable.

Overall, drinking doesn't mean you can't have fun without drinking. It simply means that you want to have MORE fun.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking. Just as long as you don't get so dead drunk or anything like that. I'm also underage, but I drink on rare occasions and celebrations. I drink only once or twice in a week, especially on friday nights and I invite some friends over to drink with. Drinking is part of having fun and enjoying yourself.

Kinda weird that I drink, but don't smoke, don't do drugs..
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Drinking has it's pros and cons. Take it from me, as I've been on both sides of the fence. Due mainly to the kind of lifestyle I lead and the choices that I make, I drink relatively often and in large amounts. I've gotten carried away, at my own fault entirely and the consequences were less than favorable. It's not a pleasant place to be and it's certainly not something I recommend to anyone. The drink gets to different people in different ways, much like we all have differences in tolerances to how much we can consume. Just know your limits and you'll be fine.

Drinking socially or rather, responsibly in general, is harmless. As long as you keep an eye on what you put in you and how much of it you're consuming and try not to let yourself go on every impulse you get, you'll be fine. Like Jlombardi said, it can sometimes enhance a situation, it might make it easier for you to shrug off your shyness and get on that dance floor, or talk to that cute girl across the room, but it's certainly not a solution to any problems, it doesn't fill any voids and it's not a crutch or cure for anything.

Anyway, my point is, drinking doesn't make you unintelligent. Use your brain, if you feel you can't handle the stuff, don't drink. Don't put away the stuff and then complain about how it's horrible for you, you didn't respect your limits. Everything in moderation.

I really need to take my own advice.

This post has been edited by Dragon_Fire on 3rd January 2007 19:12

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