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I've been messing around with IPS patches, and the following link takes you to the page of a hacked beast and outlines his details:

Kether

Please take some time to look over the details of his attacks and note that he has over 2 million HP.

I challenge everyone on the forum to patch this IPS file to their ROM and try to beat this guy, and when you do, outline your strategical approach, exactly what characters you have, and EVERYTHING they had equipped.

I am yet to beat him, but if someone does, post about it HERE in this thread!

Thanks!

This post has been edited by Piffer on 10th November 2006 01:09

Woah. o_0; It can't turn us into Prinnies, but still.

Man, I dunno. I don't think I'd even be good enough at FFVI to think of a strategy to fight it. And this would require all that Esper boosting. Ugh. I want to know what others would do, though.

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Quote (Zeromus_X @ 4th November 2006 14:24)

Woah. o_0; It can't turn us into Prinnies, but still.

Man, I dunno. I don't think I'd even be good enough at FFVI to think of a strategy to fight it. And this would require all that Esper boosting. Ugh. I want to know what others would do, though.

Does it really require the Esper boosting?

Let me outline my current party that I threw at him

All characters are at level 99 and know every Magic Spell. Mog has mastered all dances, and Strago has all the lores (Blue Magic) spells. Spells are going to mess up your HP regardless, so I shoot to equip stuff that'll give a serious boost to my evade % and MBlock %.

Locke: equipped with the Atma Weapon, Valiantknife, Genji Helmet, Genji Armor, Genji Glove, and Offering

Mog: equipped with Illumina, Paladin Shield, Crystal Helm, Snow Muffler, Merit Award, and Ribbon

Terra: equipped with Excalibur, Aegis Shield, Green Beret, Force Armor, and TWO Zephyr Capes. Doubling on the Zephyr Capes really boosts your Evade% and MBLock%.

Strago: equipped with Sword Breaker, Aegis Shield (yes, it IS possible to get two of them), Bard's hate, Behemoth suit, and TWO MORE Zephyr capes.

Basically, Locke attacks every turn, unless the party is desperate for HP, then he'll heal. But 90% of the time, he'll attack 8 turns for an average of around 66000 points, which you need to do especially when he casts shield, which can only absorb about 65000 worth of physical damage. He has nothing to protect his status or defense, so he can be a rather high maintenance fighter.

Mog has the Paladin shield, so Bolt 4, Fire 4, and Ice 4 will only put him right back up to full HP. When Kether casts one of those spells on the party, everyone dies except for Mog, who is fully healed. When this happens, he casts quick and then Life 2 to get everyone back in the game. Most of the time Mog will spend casting quick, and trying out spells like Flare and Pearl. Terra will do this as well. This can sometimes be frustrating, as normal magic attacks such as these only deal out damage about half the time. Strago, on the other hand, will cast quick and double cast GrandTrain, which in my first and only encounter with Kether, has landed and done 9999 damage every turn. Sometimes Strago can get away with this, other times, he has to devote his attention to other matters, such as reviving and healing party members. It's also smart to have plenty of green cherries, as your open statuses (with the exception of Mog) will often turn them to imps. When MP gets low, and it will, and will happen very often, simply cast Osmose on Kether for full MP replenishment. That's basically my strategy. I've only attempted to beat him once, and lasted a fair while before losing.

You do now that the monster sprite is from "Breath Of Fire II"? if not, then who ever tried that is gonna get in deep trouble with copyright laws. I suggest never speaking bout this again...

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I'll hack the enemy data and set its HP to 2.

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Sorry, I'm feeling impish.

This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 5th November 2006 06:36

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Quote (?????_UknownTrainGhost @ 4th November 2006 23:35)

You do now that the monster sprite is from "Breath Of Fire II"? if not, then who ever tried that is gonna get in deep trouble with copyright laws. I suggest never speaking bout this again...

Why is that? It's perfectly within fair-use laws given proper ownership of the original works to hack the ROM.

Honestly, the only thing bad here is the vomit-inducing description. "Leader of the Sephiroth creatures"? Ugh, the raging fanboy needs some imagination.

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Haha, you're off there. Terii didn't mean Sephiroth as a FF VII reference here. The reference is towards this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot_%28Kabbalah%29

As you'll see, Kether is the crown, thus the leader. Terii has made four other Sephiroth creatures, which can be found here:

Anyway, as to beating this thing:

I'd definately bring both Terra and Celes. With the Minerva equipped, they'll take care of Fire/Ice/Bolt 4 and have considerabel Mblock, which seems to be an important factor versus Kether. Due to Shield, characters such as Setzer, Edgar, Cyan, Locke and Mog are nigh-useless (since their late-game damage comes from physical attacks). Gau and Umaro are uncontrollable which isn't good when the enemies are unpredictable and/or really strong.

My personal party would consist out of Terra, Celes, Relm and Strago. Terra and Celes are protected by Minerva, Relm by Cat Hood and Strago by the Paladin Shield. All can easily obtain a fair amount of Mblock, can deal a lot of damage (though I'd steer clear of Ultima, due to Mimic).


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Quote (Djibriel @ 5th November 2006 06:54)

Haha, you're off there. Terii didn't mean Sephiroth as a FF VII reference here. The reference is towards this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot_%28Kabbalah%29

As you'll see, Kether is the crown, thus the leader. Terii has made four other Sephiroth creatures, which can be found here:

Anyway, as to beating this thing:

I'd definately bring both Terra and Celes. With the Minerva equipped, they'll take care of Fire/Ice/Bolt 4 and have considerabel Mblock, which seems to be an important factor versus Kether. Due to Shield, characters such as Setzer, Edgar, Cyan, Locke and Mog are nigh-useless (since their late-game damage comes from physical attacks). Gau and Umaro are uncontrollable which isn't good when the enemies are unpredictable and/or really strong.

My personal party would consist out of Terra, Celes, Relm and Strago. Terra and Celes are protected by Minerva, Relm by Cat Hood and Strago by the Paladin Shield. All can easily obtain a fair amount of Mblock, can deal a lot of damage (though I'd steer clear of Ultima, due to Mimic).

I was chain casting GrandTrain with Strago, which had a much higher success rate than normal magic, but when Kether mimicked it, my entire party was dead. GrandTrain after all, is basically Ultima, 'cept it costs less MP. I'll replace Strago with Celes and have Terra and Celes chain cast Flare as often as possible. The connect rate will be lower, but if he mimicks it, the consequences are much lower.

But I disagree with what you said about Locke. He's a very important factor in this battle. Even when Kether casts shield, one turn of physical damage from Locke will break the shield, and then he's back to doing damage again with his Genji Glove/Offering/Atma Weapon/ValiantKnife combination. It's really the main artillery of my party; it would probably take two days straight to beat Kether without someone routinely doing 65000 damage per round. The magic users basically just whittle away at his HP, doing at most 19998 damage per round, and healing, reviving, and casting Osmose when they can't.

Also, I'd really recommend having Mog with the setup I have in any party that approaches Kether. He's basically the most durable member of the group, and in ALL of my attempts at Kether, he's been the last one standing.

This post has been edited by Piffer on 5th November 2006 15:35

Forgot about Shield's durability. With it only being able to take that much damage, Locke's usefulness really soars. How often does Kether use Shield?

I wouldn't go for GrandTrain on Strago, actually. If you just let Locke do his thing, and have all others run utility continuously. I'd definately try to see what Runic does in this battle; if Kether's custom spells are vulnerable to Runic, it might make a difference worth exploiting.

Next to his tankish nature, how useful is Mog in the battle? Gau is equally effective on the defense, so if the 255 Defense thing really helps in the battle you might consider swapping Strago for Gau and have him cast spells.

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Quote (Djibriel @ 5th November 2006 10:46)

Forgot about Shield's durability. With it only being able to take that much damage, Locke's usefulness really soars. How often does Kether use Shield?

I wouldn't go for GrandTrain on Strago, actually. If you just let Locke do his thing, and have all others run utility continuously. I'd definately try to see what Runic does in this battle; if Kether's custom spells are vulnerable to Runic, it might make a difference worth exploiting.

Next to his tankish nature, how useful is Mog in the battle? Gau is equally effective on the defense, so if the 255 Defense thing really helps in the battle you might consider swapping Strago for Gau and have him cast spells.

Kether will take Locke's first turn of ~65000 damage, and then will cast shield. After that, he casts it every once in awhile. It's not something he counters with every time he's hit with a physical attack.

As for the tank-like characters, I'm not the wisest in the world when it comes to taking advantage of Gau's strengths. In fact, I've heard several times that if he's used right, he is the strongest character in the game. Is it when he's in a certain rage that all of these traits becomes so strong? Or is it his natural stats? In any case, Mog negates 6 of Kether's 12 spells he casts. He absorbs Fire 4, Ice 4, and Bolt 4, he dodges Full Power, and is not affected by the Disaster spell. Imp Song also has no effect on him. That means that only Quartr, Fallen One, and Super Nova can hurt Mog. And NONE of these attacks can kill Mog in one hit, which gives him plenty of time to heal/revive other party members with the Quick spell when he's the last one standing. The only spell that is really bad news for Mog is eradicate, but Kether takes a full turn to target before casting the spell. Again, this gives Mog plenty of time to revive the rest of the group. Also, note that only Locke is in the front row, everyone else is in the rear.

I'll try experimenting with Gau, and see what luck I have with runic, and I'll get back to you. You should really try taking this guy on for yourself and let me know what you've had success with!

Does it count if I can kill Kether the easy way using Vanish then Zoom?

If I can't, I'd equip all my best magic users with Gem Boxes, Economizers, Weapons that can boost Magic Defense and Offense, Armor that absorbs Thunder, Ice, and/or Fire, make sure they have alot of MP to cast Ultima every turn, they have Cure3, Life3, and Life2 to cast as well.

This post has been edited by SetzerGabianni147 on 5th November 2006 18:13

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Favorite Esper: Ragnarok
Favorite Magic: Ultima

Gau can absorb the Fire/Ice/Bolt 4 spells regardless of equipment, can become immune to everything Disaster does (except for Freeze), 255 Defense takes care of Full Power, Imp Song he can protect against, and he can become immune versus Quartr in addition.

Gau, 255 Defense, Magic Urn Rage, Valiantknife equipped. He won't be able to ever use a Fenix Down or anything, but he'll live longer than anyone.

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this enemy isnt in the game so quit spreading rumors.

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this enemy isnt in the game so quit spreading rumors.

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I've been messing around with IPS patches, and the following link takes you to the page of a hacked beast and outlines his details:

I can't get the link to work. If what all you say is true, i'd probably rely on Gau most. Either that or get lots of Shurikens and throw them with Shadow.

For the life of me, I cannot beat this guy!

I hang with him for as long as I have to and eventually get annihilated at whatever point in the battle he decides to cast SuperNova twice in a row. I thought that it was a result of him either mimicking Locke's 8 hits per turn, or him mimicking all of my spell casters casting 'Quick'. Turns out, in the absence of a physical fighter dealing out 8 hits per round AND quitting casting 'Quick' altogether, the monster still is able to double cast SuperNova. Is there any way to defend against this attack? Or is Kether simply impossible to beat?

Hmmm...I wish I could fight that thing. I can't think of an strategy to defeat him without fighting him first...but if he does MIMIC every action of your party, you should cast Exploder .(But that's too good to be true...isn't it?), or reduce his MP to zero , or maybe the Psycho Cyan glitch ...I can't really say until I fight with him.

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Paladin shield seems to be a must, im not sure whether its possible to get more than one cursed shield through the colosseum, if it was, id make sure to give one to every single party member, otherwise, id equip the paladin shield on one characther, where ill also equip the gem box, along with the economizer perhaps. IF its not possible to give paladin shields to your entire party, id go for those element absorb vests instead, so whenever he does ice / fire / thunder 4, atleast 2 party members would survive. Besides that, i´d abuse the evade bug, and stock up on Mevade or whichever stat is the only one mattering.
As for his ability to mimic, exploder seems like a great idea, but i would dislike using pshycho cyan ><.


This post has been edited by Ganolink on 8th November 2006 17:37

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**UPDATE**

Still haven't beat him yet, but I think I've found a solution: Equip Edgar with dragon horn and Dragoon Boots and have him Jump. It seems the only way to defend against 'SuperNova'.

He is one tough SOB considering my guys arent nearly strong enough to fight him.

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Looks like a graphic off FF2

If he fought 10 master pugs, id put my money on the pugs =P

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*UPDATE*

I've had some success with Edgar jumping, but he still seems to be on the ground every time Kether decides to double cast SuperNova. There's no telling when he'll do this. I'm going to try the Exploder technique and see what happens.

Yeah kether doesnt look like an enemy that would come outta FF6. It actually looks like something outta dragon warrior for NES.


This post has been edited by Bizarro on 10th November 2006 02:48

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*Final Update*

First off I'd like to say that once and for all: THIS MONSTER IS NOT IN THE GAME. HE IS A HACKED MONSTER YOU HAVE TO PATCH INTO THE ROM.

Okay, so back to the point. I beat the guy. The only way possible to beat him I think, is to have Strago cast Exploder and hope he mimics it. I casted Exploder, and he mimicked it right away. Battle over.

My next task is to take on a team of hacked enemies: Edge, Rydia, Cecil, Kain, and Rosa from FF IV! This battle makes the battle with Kether look easy.

Wait, you can hack them into the game?!? Do you use the same patch for translating FF5 to patch FF6 and face kether or is it a different patch?If it's a different patch could someone give me a link?

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Quote (Piffer @ 12th November 2006 23:22)

*Final Update*

First off I'd like to say that once and for all: THIS MONSTER IS NOT IN THE GAME. HE IS A HACKED MONSTER YOU HAVE TO PATCH INTO THE ROM.

Okay, so back to the point. I beat the guy. The only way possible to beat him I think, is to have Strago cast Exploder and hope he mimics it. I casted Exploder, and he mimicked it right away. Battle over.

My next task is to take on a team of hacked enemies: Edge, Rydia, Cecil, Kain, and Rosa from FF IV! This battle makes the battle with Kether look easy.

while exploder is a very innovative idea and stuff, id prefer to beat him without using it, after all its very much like Vanish / X-Zone. It makes him VERY trivial, and well... whats the point of fighting a super boss if you cant beat him the right way anyway?

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that's some real tough guy!

Quote ("Piffer@12th November 2006 18:22")

Okay, so back to the point. I beat the guy. The only way possible to beat him I think, is to have Strago cast Exploder and hope he mimics it. I casted Exploder, and he mimicked it right away. Battle over.

I was right, Exploder works!!, Kether wasn't invincible after all. Brute force was not the only way to survive a fight with him.
Yet, I want to fight with him someday...I know this is not the only way to defeat him.
Someone tried Psycho Cyan glitch?

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Wow, very innovative indeed. I think FF needs to have a bunch of bosses which are almost impossible to defeat besides random and innovative strategies (like this one) that really get you thinking tactically.

I like it when my intellect and knowledge of the game are tested.

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"A little tight, but the price was right" - Locke
"Oh, what a Fuddy Duddy" - Relm
"..." - Shadow
"I'm a General, not some love starved twit" - Celes
"Although Edgar showers his attention on the ladies, most are smart enough to pay him no attention. Oh! King Edgar!" - Figaro Castle Inn Attendant

Wow...he looks...tough.

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I'm finally back, everyone! It's been months, maybe even a year since I last visited this website!

How the heck do you apply a patch (.ips I know that much) to your rom?