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Its called We G's, its by Kool G Rap/Prinz and its on the Alive on Arrival mixtape by Green Lantern. What does this topic have to do with Final Fantasy 7? Listen to the song and see.

How about you just tell us?

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why not?


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Quote (the_wellz @ 31st August 2006 02:26)

no

I'll be brutally honest. You've basically picked the wrong demographic group to advertise to. Fans of Final Fantasy 7 DO NOT listen to Rap on the whole, especially not obscure rap. You are effecitvley just giving us a song and demanding we do all the leg work with an allegedly musical genre that most of us despise.

A search on Google just for lyrics resulted in prescisely sod all. I'm unwilling to spend time and effort to download a crap "song" just to try and dechiper it's relevance to a videogame. I'm also even more unwilling when you won't even give us any assistance and rather cleverly ignoring the admin with a spammy post whislt at the same time effectively ...What's the phrase... "flipping off" the whole forum is dashed unsporting.

So, in short, we can't find it, even if we could all be bothered, and we're not Em Pee Three stealing chavs like your sort (Honestly, old bean, this is the nation that invented class, why listen to rap?), so you have to tell us because frankly that makes this topic spam. And all just because you don't want to tell us it mentions Clouds and Strife or something similalry rediculous.

*Additional class and feigned ignorance may have been added to this post in the intrests of giving you the longest digit of the human hand extended in salute.

This post has been edited by Del S on 31st August 2006 09:26

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Quote (the_wellz @ 30th August 2006 21:26)

no

Good enough for me.

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"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

Now, first things first, it would appear that people would indeed like to know what the bloody hell I am on about with this song. Since i do not want to ruin the surprise for people by simply describing it in words, I shall provide a link to somewhere where you can legitimately listen to the song and not be forced to illegally download, oh yay: www.myspace.com/greenlanternhiphop
i just thought id make the final fantasy 7 fans aware of the existance of this song.
id also like to make Del S aware of how much i do not appreciate some of his statements. Del S, i will refrain from using my native 'chavspeak' and write to you in a language which i assume (something you have been doing far too much) you are used to speaking: victorian queen's english

Good day old chap. I wholeheartedly and jolly well disagree with many of the untruthful statements you have been making. First and foremost, your claim that Final Fantasy fans do not listen to rap is merely an ignorant assumption on your part as you simply assume that everybody who shares your own interest in Final Fantasy games happens to dislike the same genres of music that you dislike also. I for one am acquainted with people who are fans of both Final Fantasy and certain hip-hop artists. It must also be said that nobody ever told you that you were obliged to sacrifice some of your ever so precious free time to find this song, I merely suggested that if you wanted to know what I was talking about that you should find a way to listen to a preview of this song. I did not at all advocate downloading said song illegally, and to further clear up this issue I have provided a means for you to listen to this song.

You refer to rap as a music genre lacking in 'class.' Would you consider poetry to be more classy? If one were to analyse rap with an open mind, one would see that it is in fact poetry spoken over an underlying music loop or beat. I am certain that Shakespeare would have been doing the same thing in his time if the technology was available. Perhaps you believe that rap is an unintelligent form of music. If this is true, I would like to point out that rap lyrics contain many of the intelligent features of poetry: not simply rhyme but also alliteration, assonance, enjambment, irony, puns, various rhetorical devices, and the list goes on. Must I further prove that rappers are not stupid as you may or may not assume they are? A London rapper who goes by the name of Akala happens to be one of the top mathematicians in the country and achieved straight A grades in his exams while at school. Classy people such as yourself do indeed judge intelligence as a highly respectable trait after all, yes?

You also made the assumption that I am one of what we Brits ever so lovingy refer to as 'chavs.' In fact, your assumption that I come from the British isles was correct even though it was implied and not explicitly stated. You also state that our nation invented 'class.' In case it was not apparent to you before, Scotland and England are nations, whereas Great Britain is a country therefore we do not reside in the same nation and therefore cannot both simultaneously be in the nation that invented class. Since you write in such a highly educated manner I thought it would be necessary to make you aware of this mistake on your part. No hard feelings though eh old chap?

Now once I have cleared up the whole 'chav' issue I would like to expain the reasons for my statement of defiance in my previous post which I thoroughly intended to amend before the topic was unfortunately closed by an understandably peeved off moderator. I take much offense to the fact that you assume I am a chav simply because I have posted a topic about a rap song. As I am a public school boy I am used to your bigoted sorts, throwing insults such as 'chav' and 'pikey' at people they consider to be beneath them in the socio-economic hierachy. Such people will throw such terms around at anyone who listen to 'class-less' genres of music such as rap and hipidy hop, wears items of clothing manufactured by corporations such as Nike or Ecko, and/or occasionally indulges in acts of anti-social behaviour. I would like to point out that I do not do these things on a regular basis and therefore do not fit the stereotype within which you have so eloquently categorised me, and that people, whether they fit this stereotype or not, do not particularly appreciate being referred to as 'chavs' anyway.

Now as a final note, I would like to say that my reasons for not simply posting a message on this board explaining the link between We G's and Final Fantasy VII is because it would, quite simply ruin the surprise. As a matter of fact, Del S, your statement that Final Fantasy VII fans and rap music are non-compatible very well describes one of the reasons for my surprise upon first hearing this song. As many would, I would not have thought that Final Fantasy VII was ever something that would cross a rap music producer's mind. I appreciate if you have gone to the bother to actually and I hope you have had a jolly corking time reading what I have had to say. Fare thee well.

oh and for pete's sake its 2006, not the 19th century

This post has been edited by the_wellz on 1st September 2006 00:42

... What... The... Hell???

Oh, and I see the connection.. It's actually pretty cool...

Possible spoilers: highlight to view

They play the Final Fantasy VII battle music in the backround of the sound...

This post has been edited by RoughknightVII on 4th September 2006 04:18

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Ha ha weird find but the music really doesn't fit. I like good rap music but this is really not my thang.

Heck of a suprise....==;

I mean really, when I saw the first post in this topic I thought "Yeah, it's probably gonna have FFVII music samples for the riddim or something like that" ==;

As for Del's demeanor, I fully understand him - you started off looking like you're advertising yourself in the wrong forum and on top of that you did something I saw as your suicide: you refused to an admin WITHOUT GIVING ANY PROPER REASON.

Your reaction was uncalled for and shows lack of control. Also, it shows you didn't read Del's post carefully. You just assumed he wants to bash you, while he was speaking his mind.

Sorry, I'm with Del on this topic.

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I have to admit, that was a pretty interesting use of the sample. The beat is very well done.

As for the lyrics, same 'ol same 'ol. I'll agree with you that some rap lyrics can be equivalent to poetry, but this is just more of the cliche ridden, generic stuff.

no offense Del S but i think the_wellz has a point but i do agree that he should have explained himself a bit more. granted i'm not into rap but i occasionally enjoy the beats so i guess i'm not on your side on that 1 either next time check a little bit please, thanks. sorry had to get that off my chest.


by the way nice beat but it has the battle music so wat?


This post has been edited by DemonsBane666 on 6th September 2006 02:07

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Quote (SilverMaduin @ 4th September 2006 11:03)

and on top of that you did something I saw as your suicide: you refused to an admin WITHOUT GIVING ANY PROPER REASON.

Quote of the day, 4th September 2006.

But seriously this is CoN not the YMCA.

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Nobody cares about anything but the topic of the post - not Del's posts, not Wellz' posts, just the actual topic. Please stick to that or don't post.

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"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

I'll be brutally honest. You've basically picked the wrong demographic group to advertise to. Fans of Final Fantasy 7 DO NOT listen to Rap on the whole, especially not obscure rap. You are effecitvley just giving us a song and demanding we do all the leg work with an allegedly musical genre that most of us despise.

i like rap and hip/hop, not alot but i like it

I like Rap, as long as it's creative, and doesn't suck...

Anyway, I don't know if somethings wrong, or not, but the music won't play...It just says "connecting..." >.<

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I'll be brutally honest. You've basically picked the wrong demographic group to advertise to. Fans of Final Fantasy 7 DO NOT listen to Rap on the whole, especially not obscure rap.

Agreed. I def. don't listen to rap...now if it was a rock, or classical piece? throw it my way

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This topic isn't really about how you feel about rap. There are topics about that if you desperately want to comment, but there are FF fans who like rap and some that don't and none of that is really specific to this thread.

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"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

i just downloaded that song and it was pretty good.

i hate rap and this song has nothing to do with final fantasy 7.

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Quote (chou @ 20th November 2006 13:30)

i hate rap and this song has nothing to do with final fantasy 7.

It has a sampled peice of music from the game used as a beat for their song. Chou, please swallow a knife.

It's cute to use a sampled Final Fantasy beat, and I say cute because the first time you hear it, you think "aww, I recognize it." I won't dispute that rap lyrics can be taken as poetry, however like poetry, not all of it is good. I'm not saying this is bad, but it's mediocre in terms of theme and styling. There are several points in the recording where the beat and lyrical rhythm don't match up. Overall, it's not horrible but it's horribly cliche.

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I've heard Green Lantern mixtapes before. He's a nice producer who Aftermath didn't give much of a chance to. I didn't know his new mixtape was out (my good neighborhood hip-hop store just closed ,) but I usually leave mixtapes alone since they're so hit-or-miss. I've never heard of Prinz before, and after hearing his verse I see why. Like everyone said, he was pretty cliche. Kool G Rap can usually be counted on for a good line or two, but that was a sub-par effort from him (although I liked "I pack s*** that'll kick back, like a Van Damme flick.") The best part was the unique sample, but it was enough to make me want to hear the album (especially with names like Papoose and Rakim on it.)

On a side note, I remember hearing an FF reference in a song from someone on Stone's Throw, maybe MF Doom. I'll try to find it.

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