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Finished the Atma Weapon, so now that I'm in, like, the destroyed world where Kefka rules, I'm up to the battle with Phunbaba with my party as Celes, Terra, and Sabin. I Scanned him, and it said he has 60,000 HP on him. Do they really expect me to beat him with that much HP, with the two characters I totally neglected throughout the game. I didn't teach them any magic, and never leveled them up. Sabin and Celes have 600 HP at least, and this dude is tough, I'm usually spending each turn healing.

Anyway, I know that he's weak against Poison, but is this what I'm supposed to do, because I really don't want to spend time fighting monster after monster trying to level these guys up, when I only get around 1 Magic Point to begin with for each battle.

This post has been edited by RoughknightVII on 7th November 2006 02:31

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Summon ZoneSeek right at the beginning of the battle. I'd say Shell on everyone is better than Reflect as it's harder to heal with Reflect on.

Give Lock two of those boomerang weapons, they'll deal the same amount of damage from the back row (also equip the Genji Glove, of course). Have Shadow chuck shuriken at him. Have Terra heal with Cure 2 to recover from his spells. I guess Mog can keep dancing, but I'd use him to either heal or to attack somehow.

With this strategy of Lock and Shadow pounding on him constantly, it doesn't take too long for me to take him down. Just make sure to heal whenever he uses his magic. Your levels seem average, so I don't think that's a problem (Shadow's is kinda low, but that's understandable).

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Dude...Gain levels. One hit of flare and your whole team is doomed. The Floating contenint is the perfect place to lvl up, and you can also steal some Ganji Gloves from "Dragon"s.

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His levels are just fine for the part of the game he's at.

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If you have the spell Bio, it's more powerful than the 2nd-order elemental spells, IIRC.

That, and leveling up is always helpful. I think I was around level 25 (or maybe even 30) when I got here, but I dont' remember very clearly (and don't feel like digging up my files). But level ~20 sounds kinda low to me.

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Quote (Zeromus_X @ 4th November 2006 22:33)

His levels are just fine for the part of the game he's at.

I'd agree with your strategical approach to the battle, but strategy might not be as big of a factor in this battle if his party's level average was 24 or 25. I remember in an OLD issue of Nintendo Power, the recommended level for the party was 27. That might be a bit of overkill.

To the poster who started this thread:

Just take an hour or two and gain levels on the floating continent. Bring plenty of shelters and keep close to the save point. You'll be coasting in no time.

Well, I do clear the game in the 30s, so maybe I do play with lower levels then most people...

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i think his levels are fine, i usually beat the game aroun 38 or so with no difficulty. if you have a lot of potions, have mog use those and cast supportive magic instead of dancing

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Ok, well, I'll take your advise ?????_UknownTrainGhost, and try leveling up some more on the Floating Continent.
I was gonna post a video of what I'm doing when fighting, because I don't think I worded my first post very well... But first I'll try that.

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Quote (Zeromus_X @ 4th November 2006 20:51)

Summon ZoneSeek right at the beginning of the battle. I'd say Shell on everyone is better than Reflect as it's harder to heal with Reflect on.

Give Lock two of those boomerang weapons, they'll deal the same amount of damage from the back row (also equip the Genji Glove, of course). Have Shadow chuck shuriken at him. Have Terra heal with Cure 2 to recover from his spells. I guess Mog can keep dancing, but I'd use him to either heal or to attack somehow.

With this strategy of Lock and Shadow pounding on him constantly, it doesn't take too long for me to take him down. Just make sure to heal whenever he uses his magic. Your levels seem average, so I don't think that's a problem (Shadow's is kinda low, but that's understandable).

you are aware of wall rings right? they are a relic, that you can buy in most any relic shop at that time i think for about five thousand a piece. These are a great help in this battle. Also use the spells osmos and rasp, he's an energy monster which means if you can get enough mp out of him you can kill him, just like the other boss on the continent. Anyways i'd reivise your team alittle too, mog wont be much us, i'd go with strego and prehapse celes, or if not celes some one with strong pyshical attacks like edgar, his tools are really helpful in that battle (espically if you have the dephibultar(sp?)) stock up on shirkins and weak knives your charecters are too high to use anymore, then throw those at him. Have terra morph and use your most powerful magic and cure spells. have edgar use drill and chian saw with flash every now and then or even bio blaster. Have shadow throw all your shirkins and knives you dont need. Have locke steal the elixer from him and attack, also have him heal when needed since he's the fastest. Hope this helps.

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But if he has Reflect on, then he won't be able to use Cure 2 on himself efficiently. >_>

If you plan on stealing from him, keep in mind the rare Ribbon that can be stolen, however, more than likely you will steal an Elixir.

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To beat Atma Weapon at your level:

Use Terra for Rasping Atma Weapon, if you use Rasp, or Osmose, you will beat atma weapon in a matter of 2 minutes. She is good for curing and level 2 magic spells also against Atma Weapon (that is, if you do not have rasp or osmose). Morph her for efficient results.

Locke is in your party (Which I do not recommend besides stealing Genji Gloves from the Dragons on the continent). The best thing for Locke to do is either be the character that uses inventory healing, or just simply hope he gets a critical attack. If you have a genji glove, equip him with it.

Shadow needs to throw shurikens constantly. If you kill Ninjas on the continent, they sometimes drop "Ninja Stars" which deal a bit more damage.

Mog should have learned his best dance before the continent, which is Water Rondo (found in serpants trench). Use the best dance he has and only that. Only attack with Mog if he is doing any better damage than Locke.

Remember, the Atma Weapon is made up of pure energy. Rasp and Osmose will kill him in minutes, draining him entirely. Your levels are fine, you can do it. It wouldnt hurt also if most of your characters learned the high magic level 2 spells before the continent, such as Cure 2 and Bolt 2.

The party I would recommend for the floating continent:
Terra
Cyan
Edgar
Shadow

(I use the above party a lot)

OR

Terra
Sabin
Edgar
Shadow

OR

Terra
Edgar
Strago
Shadow

OR

Terra
Cyan
Mog
Shadow

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Owning Ultima Weapon the HP-way would probably be easier than sitting there and Rasping there.

Furthermore, Lock is awesome and useful for more than Stealing. He can hit things too, y'know.

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Everyone in my current team knows all level 2 spells, except for the fact that I didn't bother giving Shadow level 1 spells. I have taught everyone Rasp so it shouldn't be too hard now. I'll give it a try, thanks Sabin044.

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I beat him! Thanks you guys, I especially would like to thank the dude who came up with the whole "using Rasp thing" that especially helped me. I always figured that the thing could only be killed by his HP, I never would of came up with that on my own..

Thanks again.

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The Rasp strategy is also useful for some other bosses later in the game.

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Lemme know if you need anymore help.

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It seems your in a case where you have no other choice but to level up. Just get with Celes and learn some level 2 magic, and have sabin do his pummel/aurabolt. No, you dont have to beat him at 60,000 HP. When he loses a couple of thousand HP, he will run away from you for now.

What level are your characters Sabin and Celes? If their too weak, the only thing to do it level them because you have no choice, it shouldnt take too long. Look for monsters in different spots of the map. He shouldnt take long to have him run away.

I would strongly suggest you level up Celes and Sabin before you get to Nikeah, trust me.


This post has been edited by Sabin044 on 7th November 2006 21:39

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Finished the Atma Weapon, so now that I'm in, like, the destroyed world where Kefka rules,

Did you think the floating continent was the end of the game? Because in your previous post about Atma, you mentioned that you are at the end of the game...
werent you surprised???

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Yeah, my friend at school told me that I was getting close to the end... So I figured I wouldn't need to level up most of my characters, I was a little surprised when I didn't fight Kefka, which I figured is something that was supposed to happen.

Oh, and to answer your question, Sabin044, here are the stats;

Celes
HP - 680
MP - 169
Lv. 20

Sabin
HP - 694
MP - 157
Lv. 20

But there attack and defense are really low, I virtually never used them except in the beginning... Oh well, thanks for the advice.

This post has been edited by RoughknightVII on 7th November 2006 19:58

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Basically your character levels are rediculously low and I advise leveling them up. Although it certaintly isn't impossible to defeat Phunbaba at your level being that I managed it on a Low Level Game where my characters were 11 levels below yours. Put your characters in the back row, use Runic whenever its up, and let Sabin go ballistic with Aurabolt.

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