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Games without sequels

Posted: 17th October 2005 15:55

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This topic is about games without sequels remakes or have the same titles. Becouse I've been thinking for a while "How many games is there like that?" So yeah if you can think of any please post a reply. The only one I can think of is *Asteroids*.

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Posted: 17th October 2005 16:16

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There are more games than you think that fit that category. Companies are usually pretty big sequel-whores nowadays, but there are plenty of games out there that developers feel isn't worth a second effort. First of all, many games within series aren't true sequels of one another (Final Fantasy is the most obvious example there), and even those games aside there are probably more one-game "series" than not out there. Skies of Arcadia (one of the best RPGs ever made, and Legends isn't a sequel, it's a port), Legend of Dragoon, and Primal are all fairly non-recent games that come to mind.

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You're right. It has a sequel on DC, but I somehow hadn't heard of it. I'd check it out if I still owned a Dreamcast.


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Posted: 17th October 2005 16:57

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Crazy Taxi has sequels doesn't it?

...I would swear I've seen a Crazy Taxi 2 out there...

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Posted: 17th October 2005 18:19

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Jet Force Gemini, Adventure and Bahamut Lagoon, to name three awesome yet perpetually forgotten games/"series". I somehow wanna think that Asteroids was remade (not that it needs to be) or that some "upgraded" knock-off was released, but I'm far too lazy to conjure up the effort and actually confirm that or not right now.

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Eh, I looked anyway. As I thought, Asteroids has been re-released and remade numerous times, from the classic arcade and Atari to the PSX, and 'bout a dozen systems in between.


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Posted: 17th October 2005 19:27
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Shadow of Destiny doesn't have a sequel, and that's too bad. I thought it was a terrific game, and I've always been hoping that Konami would follow it up with something similar.

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Posted: 17th October 2005 20:30

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Quote (laszlow @ 17th October 2005 11:16)
There are more games than you think that fit that category. Companies are usually pretty big sequel-whores nowadays, but there are plenty of games out there that developers feel isn't worth a second effort. First of all, many games within series aren't true sequels of one another (Final Fantasy is the most obvious example there), and even those games aside there are probably more one-game "series" than not out there. Skies of Arcadia (one of the best RPGs ever made, and Legends isn't a sequel, it's a port), Legend of Dragoon, and Primal are all fairly non-recent games that come to mind.

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You're right. It has a sequel on DC, but I somehow hadn't heard of it. I'd check it out if I still owned a Dreamcast.

Uhh, did you read all i had too say? i mean games without a series. Unique games that have nothing to do with anything else. As for final fantasy, the games may not connect with one another but there still a series.

Understand?.

P.s. sorry about the topic name it may have been confusing.

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Posted: 17th October 2005 23:05

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An old Sega Genesis game, about a magic-user, I've never seen a sequel to. Mystic Defender I think is the name for it. That and Unholy War (PSX) are the only games I know of w/out sequels.

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Posted: 18th October 2005 16:07
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Throne of Darkness, The Ooze, Ristar, Clans. Those are the sequelless games I have that I can remember.
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Posted: 18th October 2005 19:41

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OK then, maybe I was wrong based on your guidelines. But how about these? Grim Fandango, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Day Dreamin' Davey (one of the worst games ever), Psychonauts, Sigma Star Saga, Meteos, Lumines, God of War, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, and Secret of Evermore. That's ten just off the top of my head.

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Posted: 20th October 2005 17:23

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North and South doesn't have a sequel IIRC. I think Illusion of Gaia doesn't have one either.

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Posted: 20th October 2005 18:55

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I think Illusion of Gaia doesn't have one either.

Illusion of Gaia is the second game in the Soul Blazer series. First came Soul Blazer, then Illusion of Gaia, then Terranigma. Terranigma's pretty good, if you liked IoG you should check it out.

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Posted: 20th October 2005 20:49

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Quote (laszlow @ 17th October 2005 11:16)
There are more games than you think that fit that category. Companies are usually pretty big sequel-whores nowadays, but there are plenty of games out there that developers feel isn't worth a second effort. First of all, many games within series aren't true sequels of one another (Final Fantasy is the most obvious example there), and even those games aside there are probably more one-game "series" than not out there. Skies of Arcadia (one of the best RPGs ever made, and Legends isn't a sequel, it's a port), Legend of Dragoon, and Primal are all fairly non-recent games that come to mind.

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You're right. It has a sequel on DC, but I somehow hadn't heard of it. I'd check it out if I still owned a Dreamcast.

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Skies of Arcadia (one of the best RPGs ever made, and Legends isn't a sequel, it's a port), Legend of Dragoon, and Primal are all fairly non-recent games that come to mind.

Did you mean LofD and the others did or didnt have a sequel?

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Posted: 20th October 2005 22:32

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Live-A-Live was a great, unique game, had no sequal or remake.

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Posted: 21st October 2005 01:28

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Snowman: LoD and Primal have never had a remake or sequel, and SoA (again, one of my favorite RPGs) only has a gamecube port.

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Posted: 21st October 2005 05:43

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Quote (laszlow @ 18th October 2005 14:41)
OK then, maybe I was wrong based on your guidelines. But how about these? Grim Fandango, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Day Dreamin' Davey (one of the worst games ever), Psychonauts, Sigma Star Saga, Meteos, Lumines, God of War, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, and Secret of Evermore. That's ten just off the top of my head.

From last I heard, some of these newer games are being made a sequal, such as Psychonauts, Lumines, and God of War. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure. I'm not keeping my ear to the cobblestones about new games until the NextGen consoles come out and I own one.

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Skies of Arcadia (one of the best RPGs ever made, and Legends isn't a sequel, it's a port), Legend of Dragoon, and Primal are all fairly non-recent games that come to mind.


Though I think they Did make a sequal to primal (don't know, not familiar with the series), I wish to whatever force out there that they made a sequal to Legend of Dragoon. That was one of my favorite battle systems.

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Posted: 21st October 2005 13:45

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Ah thank you laszlow.

I cant think of any at the moment, but do any of you think sequels spoil the charm of the original?

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Posted: 21st October 2005 14:17
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I cant think of any at the moment, but do any of you think sequels spoil the charm of the original?

Only occasionally. If the sequel is good, there's no harm done. If the sequel is bad, that doesn't usually ruin the experience of playing the original. Every once in a while, though, the sequel is so bad that you can't play the original without remembering it. For me, Final Fantasy X-2 is one such example. Before playing that game, I liked Yuna. Rikku topped my list of "spunky gamine" FF heroines. After playing it, however, I find that I can't go through FFX without shuddering at the thought of their future "YRP" phase. It makes the ending less sad, too.

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Not because you can get Tidus back with a perfect FFX-2 game. Oh, no. It makes it less sad because you know that Tidus won't be around to witness the transformation of a noble summoner into a brainless gunslinger in hotpants.


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Posted: 23rd October 2005 14:58

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Lol, I see what you mean but I just take every game as a new one really. The one before then becomes the background history stuff which leads up to the new one. Oh! I just thought of sequels that are unrelated storywise. The Time Crisis games dont share the same story or characters, although one of the bad guys appears in each one as the enemy of the company all the good guys work for.

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Posted: 28th October 2005 09:51

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Well done very good everyone. It seems there are more games like that than i thought. I'm finding your reply's very amusing. Unless i'm mistaken in total there is 27 games so far. Sorry karasuman but i can't say i care about what happend to the girls in FFX-2.

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Posted: 9th November 2005 19:16

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beavis and butthead super nes
fable, xbox
beyond the beyond, ps1
fusion frenzy, xbox
kiwi krazy ,nes
blowout ,ps2
bmx xxx, xbox, ps2, gamecube
armorines ,n64
attack of the killer tomatoes ,nes
legend of draoon ,ps1
25 to life, xbox, ps2,
yoshis island ,snes
diakatana ,n64
kirbys dream course ,snes
alien syndrome,nes
as i think of more ill edit this list.

but as you can tell there are many games most unknown to people that dont have sequels.



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Posted: 10th November 2005 21:54

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Quote (madmangunner @ 9th November 2005 14:16)
beavis and butthead super nes
fable,  xbox
beyond the beyond, ps1
fusion frenzy, xbox
kiwi krazy ,nes
blowout ,ps2
bmx xxx, xbox, ps2, gamecube
armorines ,n64
attack of the killer tomatoes ,nes
legend of draoon ,ps1
25 to life, xbox, ps2,
yoshis island ,snes
diakatana ,n64
kirbys dream course ,snes
alien syndrome,nes
as i think of more ill edit this list.


Yoshi's Island (Super Mario World 2) was a prequel of sorts to Super Mario World, and Yoshi's Story (N64) was, if I remember correctly, intended to be a sequel to Yoshi's Island.

Also, there are at least two different Attack of the Killer Tomatoes games, the other for the original Game Boy.

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Posted: 11th November 2005 08:40

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Hey Laszlow. Day of the Tentacle (you mentioned in a previous post) is kind of a sequel to Maniac Mansion, an OLD game about a group of teens who get trapped in a mad scientist's mansion while trying to rescue a guy's girlfriend. I know it from Commadore 64, though some might have played it on 8-bit Nintendo. So yeah, doesn't count. laugh.gif

Speaking of Commadore... there was a game called Fairlight: a Prelude that I don't think had a sequel. Just an over ambitious title I suppose.

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Posted: 5th December 2005 14:43

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Madmangunner, you said Kirby's dream course (YAY!!! Kirby!) but aren't all of the Kirby games unrelated in a sense, you know like he saves the world, but next time no mention of his last victory really. So i don't know now... sad.gif

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Posted: 5th December 2005 14:57

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There is a Fable II, madmangunner.

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Sorry, it's still the same Fable. It's an extension pack for it, is all.


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