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After the battle of Bethla Garrison, both Larg and Goltana are assassinated, as many of you know.
Now, I took a break from the game a bit ago and have continued and I'm just past that part and Igros Castle and such and I can't recall how and when Ramza discovers that Larg and Goltana were assassinated.
Like, I THINK Zalbag tells Ramza that Dycedarg did it? But I can't recall. And I was wondering if Cid told Ramza about Goltana.

Anyways, if anyone remembers, please, little help?

The purposes of this info is going towards a fanfic I have in progress, thus, I'd like to get my facts straight. Much thanks!

Moderator Edit

Putting *SPOILERS* after a spoiler in the title really isn't a good idea. Title altered.

*EDIT* Oh. wow. Good point. Sorry about that! Oversight indeed... ^^;;

This post has been edited by Perigryn on 16th September 2005 06:57

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Balmafula and Delita knew about Larg's and Goltana's deaths before they happened, having been sent by the church to spy on Goltana and it is mentioned by Vormav and Rofel that Dycedarg had killed Balbanes and sought after Ivalice's throne (after all, Weigraf and Gafgarion knew that he wanted to rule Ivalice at Larg's expense and Larg knew Dycedarg killed Balbanes from the start of the game). All of this, enbeknownst to Zalbag. All he knew was what Dycedarg did on the surface, not in secret. Now, to the question at hand:

Don't take my word on this, but I think Olan witnesses Larg's assassination, or just merely reports it. Ramza knew from Weigraf about the eldest Beoulve's true intentions since Chapter One, it just took a while for Zalbag to catch on, because of how close Zalbag was to his older brother. Once Larg was killed, Ramza knew that Dycedarg must've had something to do with it if he didn't do it himself, because Goltana's and Larg's deaths had been confirmed in the land of Ivalice, Larg's replacement being Dycedarg, and Delita replacing Goltana. Delita told Ramza at Castle Zeltennia's church that he was going to kill Goltana as per his orders received from Funeral (more than likely Vormav being a messenger (totally speculative)) and the Church had planned Larg's death as well, hence Balk's mosfungus poison over the Hokuten army, not the Nanten. If you are going where I think you are in your fanfic, then just for extra clarity, Ramza puruse Dycedarg at Igros AFTER dealing with Marquis Elmdor at Limberry Castle because it is there at Ramza finds out (from Meliadoul telling Ramza about High Priest Funeral's plans) that Dycedarg was to be the recipient of the Capricorn Zodiac stone from Rofel (unsure if Rofel's name is given directly) and Ramza had to get the stone before Dycedarg melds his being with Lucavi's as Draclau, Weigraf, and Elmdor (warriors who were evil-at-heart before occupation of the stone) did.

I hope that helps clear things up and as for others who know more than I, please correct me if I'm wrong.

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That all sounds about right. But just to add some clarity, it's Zalbag who discover's that Dycedarg killed Balbanes. Ramza enters the fray right when Zalbag accuses his brother and finds out that little secret straight from Balbanes.

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Hmmm... Well, I know Olan doesn't see the assassination of Larg. Zalbag, does, though. Cause I remember that scene. Larg gets stabbed by Dyce, then the latter tells Zalbag to blame it on the Nanten.
I just can't recall if Dycedarg admits it himself that he killed Larg or if Zalbag told Ramza or what.

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Games on the Go
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy: Four Warriors of Light
Baldur's Gate

Too much to play, so little time!

Greg

If I remember correctly, Zalbag witnessed the murder of Larg and finds out that Dycedarg poisoned Balbanes (their father) with mosfungus which led to his death at the scene Death of Father Balbanes and has it proven when he takes the hired Chemist with him to dear old dad's grave and confirms that Balbanes' died from Dycedarg's mosfungus. When Ramza and his gang arrive at Igros castle, Dycedarg orders Zalbag's murder or capture (can't remember which, if it matters) and the heroes come to Zalbag's aid and during the battle, Zalbag tells Ramza "You were right, I'm sorry!" and I can't remember Dycedarg's dialog off-hand, but once Dycedarg becomes Adramelk, he sends Zalbag to Lucavi (where he is twisted, tormented, and under Vormav's command come St. Murond temple) and admits to killing Balbanes and Larg for the Beoulve family to rule Ivalice and not serve those who rule. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, during his conversation with Rofel, he claims that Orinas is the rightful King and denies Larg's murder and says nothing about Balbanes, though Rofel knows the truth that Dycedarg doesn't tell.

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"Thought I was dead, eh? Not until I fulfill my dream!"
Seifer Almasy


"The most important part of the story is the ending."
Secret Window


"Peace is but a shadow of death."
Kuja