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I don't know how many of you are keeping tabs on this, but waiting for page updates every couple of seconds is making my heart go a mile a minute. I couldn't find the streaming web video, sadly.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651320p1.html

The revolution controller is finally revealed for all to see!

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Better looks
http://www.1up.com/do/imageDisplay?id=2308861
http://www.1up.com/do/imageDisplay?id=2308865
http://www.1up.com/do/imageDisplay?id=2308868
Thanks Phun

This post has been edited by Zero_Hawk on 16th September 2005 02:59

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I love how I'm the one who's been keeping you up to tab with all these things. And then you go make the topic about it >_>.

But anyways my emotions are mixed about the "controller" though.

Makes me think I could be playing Zelda on the PS3 very soon.

The thing that really concerns me most is how gameplay is going to be with that thing. But then again, I felt the same way about the N64 controller. And it grew on me. I guess (hope) it'll be that way with this too.

And the fact that it doubles as a mouse in real 3D for FPS really intrigues me. Almost as much as the other possible attachments.

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Steam: Zero_Hawk
Wii U: Zero_Hawk
FF14 - Goblin - Zero Hawk <Fiend>

I was just reading about this...'controller'. I think it looks like they converted the TV remote...I foresee there being a lot of problems with this in the first months.

Nintendo, come on, we get it, you're 'different'. But you're skating on thinner ice each time you have a new idea this... far fetched >< REMEMBER SEGA!!

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I was just reading all this a few moments ago, too.

I can't pinpoint why, but the controller really baffles and astounds me. If it can make Mario jump with just an upward tilt, perhaps running, swimming, climbing and simple navigation can all be performed via directional control and the movement sensor. The light gun and sword blurbs make it sound like a more 'hands-on' approach to gaming, as if actions will play a much larger role than simply pressing buttons. Think 'virtual reality remote meets Super Scope.'

Being able to play with one hand, with the exception of attachments, is definitely a plus as far as I'm concerned. And the early praise from Kojima and Squenix is sure to be a good thing.

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And we thought the Batarang "Bananaphone" of PS3 was as bad as it could get...

An interesting idea, but looks like a nightmarish possibility. Will we see ninty gamers forced to use both hands anyway just to be able to press all the buttons quickly? Some of them look lke they might be out of range.

One crictical disadvantage of the trend for wi-fi springs to mind though: Batteries. How will all that work? Will you need to put the controller in to charge when it's not in use? Or even worse, will it be a treble A battery?

No wonder technphobia is rampant...

Nonetheless, Ninty are good at getting around problems unlike certain other (sony) companies that shall remain (microsoft) nameless who either claim it was deliberate or say it's your fault, not thiers.

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I was followin' this all last night on this one site that was posting live updates, and I saw it and I was like "HOLY CRAP!" and thought it was kinda stupid, but then I sat down and started to think of all the ways this thing could be used...

It'll be hard to pull off, but if Ninty DOES pull it off, it'll be the frickin' best thing ever. Revolution will be HEAVEN for FPS games, as well as hack-'n'-slash.

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I don't think the problem is the item itself, it's the fact it's your 'main' controller. A main controller should be what we're used to. If Sony had said "All games are now played via the new controller dance mat!!" when the PS2 was released it would not be taken well. This 'remote' would be fine as an extra, but for main...they should remember who the target audience is.

They said "Something your grandmother won't be affraid of." Well duh! She won't know what i is. Last I checked 'your grandmother' was NOT in the target gaming audience.

Now lets get technical. Forget the fact that is is a HUGE change to what we're used to, doesn't it seem a tad too advanced for a main contoller? How long do you think it'll be before the bugs start beating down the punters? I doubt it'll be long.

Personally I like to use my two handed controller. I'm not great with a keyboard, lightguns, arcade joysticks, power gloves (heh), and the like. I'd rather them be an option than a main controller...hell, I still don't like when games force you to use the analogue sticks without giving you a d-pad option (GTA, Kingdom Hearts, Phantom Brave, the list grows).

Nintendo's mistake is that it is isolating the very gamers that were playing it originally.

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I agree that this is a pretty radical change around which to base an entire console. What if people can't figure it out? If there were a "normal" controller to fall back on, I'd be far more confident...

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All this time, and now it's finally here, I must say it's not what I expected.

In fact, it's more incredible than I could have ever imagined. Looking at a purely idea and technical basis, it's quite a piece of hardware. It's unbelievable that they could think up and develop this, much less make it an entire console. This puts Nintendo heads and tails above the competition in terms of ingenuity and originality. Just like always.

From a sales standpoint, however, the Revolution is definitely not going to put Nintendo back on top. This is definitely a risk, I can already imagine the casual gamers guffawing and making snide "What is this piece of crap" comments. Additionally, software designers will probably shy away from the Revolution in the coming years due to the innovation required to make a game fit for the console. Just like the DS, developers will need to think of a game idea that would actually benefit from the new controller. However, when it all boils down, Nintendo is jsut doing what it does best: taking the first step into the future of gaming. While the Revolution will probably not be remembered as the greatest or best-selling console of all time, it will surely be known for ushering in the next generation of consoles. It's beyond the XBox360, beyond the PS3, beyond anything anyone could have expected. I'm excited!

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I find your lack of faith disturbing...

Whoah. Definitely new. As with every massive gaming innovation - the majority of which are Nintendo trademarks - this approach has the potential for great good as well as evil.

I can easily see the unit's counterintuitive, totally unconventional method of control as a hurdle for both consumers and developers alike. In this industry moreso than others, pure creativity for its own sake is rarely praised, especially when it comes to hardware. The public might not be ready to accept something this big so quickly, and game makers may not be willing to take up the enormous challenge a mechanic like this presents.

On the flip side, this presents a host of extremely interesting and exciting possibilities. Without the constraints of a traditional gamepad or analog control mechanic, the fluidity of play in any genre would increase exponentially. If done correctly, this kind of system could usher in a new era of interactivity and seamless artistry for the genre.

But as I've said time and again, a console's worth is never measured in terms of its specifications - it's the software that counts. Only time will tell if superior games will emerge for the system, which is the only true gauge of quality. This could very well turn out to be the next Virtual Boy; conversely, it could turn out to be the next Nintendo DS.

Judging by Nintendo's practically flawless record for first-party game development, I don't doubt there will be at least a few masterpieces, made even more unforgettable by the potential brilliance of the Revolution's design.

This post has been edited by Super Moogle on 16th September 2005 19:15

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You do realise it looks like an adult sex toy right? I mean, I could prove it. But this place is PG/13... Scot from VG Cats agrees. He and I were both talking to Dave about it... If you read VG Cats, you'd know what I mean by his last update.

'sides
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/balleatomique/muse...do-nespower.JPG
Inovative isn't always great. =P

Still, best of luck to Nintendo!

This post has been edited by Mu the Squirrel on 16th September 2005 20:10

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The Arcana are the means by which ALL is revealed.

It's a very distracting concept, and it will probably detract many developers from using it as their main console, because so many game companies make games that they can translate from console to console. However, if the Revolution can do the things outlined in this video effectively, I will definitely buy one.

This post has been edited by Neal on 16th September 2005 22:36

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So far it seems the developers can't wait to make games on it.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651304p1.html

They've also announced a classic controller that will have all the right ammount of buttons. And the motion sensing controller will dock inside of the classic shell. So you CAN get the best of both worlds.



Also there's better version of that video you posted Neal. I posted it in the Nintendo Revolution thread a couple of hours ago.

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html

I feel slightly uncomfortable with the idea of that controller.....not really, but I definitely didn't see that coming

Quote (Phunbaba @ 16th September 2005 18:09)

They've also announced a classic controller that will have all the right ammount of buttons. And the motion sensing controller will dock inside of the classic shell. So you CAN get the best of both worlds.

Could anything be more perfect?

I remember being weaned off the joystick in favor of the control pad took more time than it was worth to get used to...for me. I certainly predict this transition will be far more entertaining.

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I have to admit; it's pretty impressive.... but I like 2D games!!! It also looks just like the controllers the plane had when I flew here, and man did they hurt my hands.

I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud. It sounds awesome... but I want to make this list for fun:

Power Pad
Power Glove
Super Scope

Oh yeah... what was the robot's name?

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I do believe it's name was ROB, for Robotic Operating Buddy.

I'm not quite sure how this controller will pan out, on one hand it seems really cool and opens up so many new ideas, but on the otherm it's such a radical change from the norm that I am a bit frightened. I have heard one complaint from people about the videogame indusry as a whole more than any other, it the overall lack of innovation in the software titles. Think about it, we've got about 8 different genres that are made by developers, and the only "new" genres to come out in the last decade weren't really new at all, they were just a combination of existing genres. I've always felt that the lack of innovation in software was a direct result of the hardware basically being in the exact same mold as the original NES. Nintendo is basically forcing software developers to look at this and go, "Hmmm, what can I come up with that will fully utilize this controller."

Nintendo has always been the leader in the industry for revolutionary ideas, and as with everything new, there is no gaurantee of it's success. I, myself, am extremely grateful that Nintendo keeps gambling with new ideas that might scare some people away. It's the only way to keep the industry from getting stagnant.

I've also heard that there will be attachments which are more like what we are used to that can be plugged into the existing controller. Nintendo would be stupid not to have some kind of peripheral like this, and if they don't, some 3rd party developer will. So don't get too scared.

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Hey, have you guys seen the TGS MGS4 Trailer? Those graphics are AMAZING! I mean, the best graphics I've ever seen. Ever. All in-game. I'm also really liking the new setting, it's spiffy.

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

A hands-on impression.

Apparently, as indicated in the article linked above, the controller may be able to be rotated or flipped over as means to take full advantage of the button layout. In other words, it could emulate standard controllers based on how it's held. And it's "theoretically possible" that other hardware - perhaps even older Nintendo controllers - could be hooked into the ports, givin' ya ample options as to how to control the games.

Keep in mind that, regardless of whether you think it's totally neato or lame as hell, the different styles of the Revolution controllers are all still technically prototypes. The final design could be completely different in every way, but I personally hope not.

Now, to MGS4. ...Geezer Snake rocks!

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Words of Wisdom:

If something can go wrong, it will.

If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong. - Murphy’s Law

Boing! Zoom! - Mr. Saturn