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Quote (Shinjutsei @ 10th August 2005 05:35)

Either Rev or 360 WILL get the FF series. I'm gettin both, so I dont care. It'll most likely be XBox, though.

As yet, there has been no concrete evidence (And unless you can find some, it's likely there won't be any for quite a while) as to wether or not the FF's are even jumping ship, and as far as I am aware, it is mostly the speculation of XBox and revolution owners. FF going to XBox seems an odd descion to me, as many FF gamers are Japanese or Asian. Quick quiz: What didn't do too well in Japan and Asia compared to the other consoles?

Just because the company in charge has the most cash, doesn't mean that you get the best sales. Take Manchester United* as a slight example. Most famous , possibly most popular football team on earth, and they're awful. They, by all logic, should be the most sucesssful Association Football side on Earth with their level of support, but they're not. To simply go to the richest company exclusivley may LOSE you money, as fans desert you in droves, in the west, for "Selling out" and in the east, because they don't like the XBox. The new fans and retained fans may not equal the previous levels, and whats the point? PS3 and XBox are so similar in performance that whatever differences are going to be difficult to see. Hence, Square-Enix, who recently have been thinking more in terms of securing the long-term future of the company, will not risk it all for very little possible gain. XBox fans can try as they might to argue otherwise, but it does not make sense for XBox to exclusively get the FF series, unless Microsoft buy them out, which will still backfire with "selling out" as FF becomes Microsoft-only, and people desert worldwide.

In addition, even in the one place XBox can pretend to have sales nearing PS2's market dominance, namely, North America, I think its still A) a little behind and B) most FF gamer's in that area either don't own an XBox or are unlikely to wish to buy one. The vast majority are Ninty or Sony, and it may be a dangerous road to go down to abandon Sony, becuase it was a Sony console that basically made the Final Fantasy series really take off in the west. Hence, if they do go to the 360, it will be multi-formatting. If it's 360 exclusive, then I become an old-school eltist and stop playing FF. Why?

As I said, it would take something really drastic to make me get an XBox360. I'll expand on why that is: XBox fandom, to me, is full of some of the most obnoxious, stupid, moronic idiots outside... well, Sony and Games Workshop fandom (Not anything specific: Only about 10% at worst of the fanbase, and perhaps only a problem with one or two XBox owners on CoN as a whole but as yet, I don't think those 1 or 2 -whoever they are: I don't even know who they are but I know they're there.- have posted here yet) but the smallest brains have the biggest loudest mouths). I'm afraid I meet too many idiots in things I already like (E.G Mirrors) to run the risk of coming into contact with them again on something that's essentially a waste of time and money, like I said before: XBox has nothing to offer me that the other two cannot give me, with a little more.

Anything I said there you feel the need to respond to, do so by PM, becuase any response is off-topic and I'm not too happy at the idea of people dragging themselves down on such a trivial thing because I spoke out.

This post has been edited by Del S on 10th August 2005 07:57

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oh crap, bad news for xbox 360 hopefulls

$399?

im definitly not ready to throw $399 on the table for a video game system. but i guess i'll have to see the price on the sony before i make my decision. i will not buy a nintendo no matter what.

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Actually, you CAN get it for $299, but that's withought the hard drive, so you'll have to use memory cards like PS3 and Rev. (well we don't know for sure...) owners will. 400 bucks nets you the hard drive and some other spiffy stuff, and considering that a) I want mine to have a hard drive, and by itself, the hard drive is $100 bucks anyway, I'll definately be getting the $400 one (assuming I get it at launch anyway, I'll PROBABLY wait for a price drop...).

But it's not really all that bad. I mean, the PS3 has already been stated as being no LESS thant $400, and that doesn't even have a hard drive. I think the Rev. will probably be the cheapest of the three, maybe around $250 or so?

And Del is right, there is NO evidence that the FF series is leaving Sony, it's all speculation. All that is known is that FFXI is going to the 360, Square is making some other MMORPG for the 360, and that Square is (paraphrased) "really looking into cross-platform development."

Also, as Del said, it would be a very bad move, financially, to move to the 360 or the Rev for that matter, but it still doesn't mean that the FF games might be on those systems. The just won't be exclusives.

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I'm also thinking the vast capacity of PS3's dics may becoem a very tempting prospect to Squenix. There is a "nightmare possibility" that I came up with some time ago that Squenix may release ALL the numbered final fantasies pre PS2 on a single disc. Considering the fact that they'd all fit and have room for the SNES and NES emulators, it could, in theory, work.

Now, they always say size doesn't matter, but a far larger game can fit into a PS3 in theory (9Gb for 360, 54(!) Gb apparently on Bluray for PS3). Combined with all the 'omg hi price!' troubles I keep seeing, the 'same old situation' report I keep hearing, ,and , somthign I found recently, claims that 360 will only have backwards compatability for "the most popluar of the old XBox games" (IE not all of them), XBox 360 may be second or even third best before the race begins.

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ill buy ps3, xbox 360, and the nintendo revolution

I will go 4 PS3, since PS has better games.
XBOX sux, Halo 2 sux! I might as well play couterstrike.
XBOX life sux, take a long time, might as well play lan game like warcraft III
XBOX has no RPG, boring playing those 2 player game, i get bored playing only for 5 min!
Ps has most game XBOX has, XBOX has little game PS dun haf,while PS has more games that XBOX dun haf.(Acton, 2player game)
Big n heavy, while ps 2 is not dat heavy.
Mircosoft is only good in creatin program, not game console!
A lot of RPG player buy PS, while action seeker buy XBOX which most of XBX game appear in PS!
XBOX has little memory space!
PS has alot!
Graphic of PS is better than XBOX!(RPG will have better graphic than action game, i mean just look at HULK in xbox, it sux, like those graphic in ps1)
Overall XBOX
PS

This post has been edited by Tidus on 31st August 2005 08:41

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Quote (Tidus @ 31st August 2005 04:34)

I will go 4 PS3, since PS has better games.
XBOX sux, Halo 2 sux! I might as well play couterstrike.
XBOX life sux, take a long time, might as well play lan game like warcraft III
XBOX has no RPG, boring playing those 2 player game, i get bored playing only for 5 min!
Ps has most game XBOX has, XBOX has little game PS dun haf,while PS has more games that XBOX dun haf.(Acton, 2player game)
Big n heavy, while ps 2 is not dat heavy.
Mircosoft is only good in creatin program, not game console!
A lot of RPG player buy PS, while action seeker buy XBOX which most of XBX game appear in PS!
XBOX has little memory space!
PS has alot!
Graphic of PS is better than XBOX!(RPG will have better graphic than action game, i mean just look at HULK in xbox, it sux, like those graphic in ps1)
Overall XBOX
PS

First-
What the hell are you talking about.
Second-
Trying to work out that post makes me sympathize with the husband of Terri Schiavo
Third-
Are you talking about the new systems or old systems? You reference games that are out for current generation consoles while the topic is about next gen.
It would also help if you validated your opinion rather than typing-
Xbox sux, Halo sux, ect.

It doesn't help that a 10 year old with AOL has a better grasp of the english language.
Granted I'm not perfect. I certainly hope you're foreign so you have some sort of excuse. If so excuse the english remark. However the remarks about backing up your opinion stand.

If I get warned for this-Well shame that.

As per topic- Personally I plan to reserve judgement on all the systems until they appear. Oblivion looks godly for the 360, so I may have to get it just for that. We'll see how things turn out though. I may not have money for any of it given that I'll most likely be a college student by the time the systems become worth buying.

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While I wholeheartedly agree, please keep it in check. -R51

This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 31st August 2005 11:28

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Quote (MogMaster @ 31st August 2005 04:34)

It doesn't help that a 10 year old with AOL has a better grasp of the english language.
Granted I'm not perfect. I certainly hope you're foreign so you have some sort of excuse. If so excuse the english remark. However the remarks about backing up your opinion stand.

I am an African. Happy?

You do not have the rights to criticize me, just because you are better in English.

Just look at the graphic in PS3 and XBOX 360, and compare.

As for the games, it is my personal opinion.

Please be kinder with your word, it reflects badly on your country when you criticize people like that.

I know my English suxs, that's why I asked my friend to check this message for grammatical errors.

This post has been edited by Tidus on 31st August 2005 12:16

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Chances are I'll wait until all three are out and get the one that offers the best games. There are still several series that I follow, so as long as they stay loyal to Soney, I'll prolly end up with a PS3.

As for the FF series, I think chances are, if anything, it will just expand to be released on multiple consoles. It'd be the smartest move financially speaking.

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ill buy ps3, xbox 360, and the nintendo revolution

okay, as topic starter, i will make a new rule for the thread. all posts must actually be somewhat helpful. put, like some facts in, some games you whould buy, or something. k?

even if its realy long, it might not really mean anything, like what tidus said.

once again i bring info from engadget

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we’d originally heard something or other about Microsoft launching the Xbox 360 on November 4th or maybe November 22nd, but now IGN reports that the next-gen console is all set to drop on November 25th, aka the day after Thanksgiving aka Black Friday aka the busiest shopping day of the year (at least it used to be). The 25th is a little later than Microsoft had originally wanted to intro the 360, but apparently they wanted to give developers a little extra time to finish up their launch titles.

theres some stuff about ps3 having a keyboard and mouse on that site too, but i really don't care.

a lot of you are doing this "microsoft is taking over the world" thing. you know, sony wasn't always a videogame company, but no-one thinks they're trying to take over the world. and the x-box, despite weighing, like, 9 pounds, was an awsome machine.

This post has been edited by kuetipo on 5th September 2005 12:53

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i am going to buy the xbox 360 because of the removable hardive...
the awesone games...
elder scrolls iv.....
condemned....
perfect dark zero
and so much more

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[QUOTE] Actually, FFXIII isn't going to be for the 360, that's merely a rumor. FFXI is, however. But the real reason I'll be buying a 360 is for MISTWALKER, which I 100% believe will be the new Squaresoft. That and Halo 3, Perfect Dark 0, eNCHANT arM (have you heard of that? Looks really good), and the awesome Xbox Live.

If I can afford two systems, my next choice will be Ninty's Revolution, mostly because of the game downloads, but also because of... ONLINE SUPER SMASH BROTHERS HECK YEAH!

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Well, from what it looks like, the Xbox 360 will be the RPG system for the next generation systems. The Playstation 2 didn’t have as much hits as it had with it’s previous systems. Though the Xbox came out with some hit RPGs late in it’s life it brought out some nice new titles that stunned western audiences.

The Xbox 360 is looking like it is getting popular Japanese support as well from legendary Japanese game makers. Hopefully most of these game makers will take back the helm at most success series and bring them back to life, or this new generation of Japanese Game Makers decide to stop altering successful titles and use the original formula.

Regardless, it is looking bright for the Xbox 360 already. Playstation 2 does have some pretty good action games coming out but new real RPG support yet.

The revolution will have downloads of it’s game library but who wants to play old Zelda games or new Zelda games on that controller?

Man, I am looking forward to Elder Scrolls Oblivion though, I think everyone else But if a certain company known as Blizzard were smart, they would make a port of World of Warcraft for the Xbox 360.

[quote]The new X-Box, in all truth, sounds to me like it's gonna be better than the first one, and perhaps even (hopefully) have a ton more exclusives I'm actually interested in. Doesn't mean I'll buy one, as I'd have to decide between it and the PS3. At the very least sometime, somewhere down the line, when it's become cheap and obsolete, I'll likely consider getting into it and its games. [/quote]

My only problem with the Xbox is paying to play a game online of course. I mean, I just see the point of paying for another needless connection to play another game that might have it’s own subscription method. Then of course it’s like of 3rd party support.

And by that I mean cheat devices. Yeah the Xbox does have things that edits saves but Microsoft has threatened to sue anyone who hacks into Xbox games and personally when I play a single player game, sometimes I might want to have fun and enjoy a story then frustrate myself with game physics.

So as of right now if I see a game released for all three systems, I usually get a game for my PS2 because of the above problems.

[QUOTE]I myself will be getting a XBox 360 and then a Revolution. I'm talking games here, folks. Exclusives. PS3 doesnt have any that interest me. With Squarenix going to 360, there's no longer a reason for me to own a PS3. Rev's a given, of course. lol[/QUOTE]

Unusually the Japanese pretty much stick with each other and ignore the Xbox but lately every RPG almost on the PS2 released under the guidance of new game makers and horribly altered certain great series into horrible games no one doesn’t want to play or finish. I think a move to the Xbox is a wise move for them and old legendary Japanese game makers coming back to make games for the Xbox 360 only makes it more appealing to us and for the Japanese in general.

We keep on saying with the next system the Nintendo release will be it’s last but honestly, the PSP is a success and the game boy and a couple hits (Pokemon) kept Nintendo afloat but with there crazy ideas and them unable to listen to what the public wants only keeps Nintendo hanging on by a small thread.

The DS isn’t doing good at all, its design and controls are considered horrible to even (Sorry for saying this) Nintendo fan boys. Me, I am a critic to every system and I stayed by Nintendo till 1999 and finally bought a PS and Final Fantasy VII and saw what I missed out on. To disrespect fans even more they release a new game boy every year or so with new features. From what game sites have reported the new gameboy isn’t that far away, looks like the DS is just going to be another thing Nintendo supports for a moment and moves on to the next thing.

In my honest opinion, they should stick to making games.

[quote]I'm thinking revolution and 360. PS2 just dosent have any descent games coming out for it. Does anyone know what system ffXII will come out for?
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FFXI is coming out for the Playstation 2 but I have to warn you, they changed the system a lot. Your going to be playing a very different RPG then what you played in the Previous Final Fantasy games.

[quote[I will not buy the 360, no matter what games they make for it and what it can do. I hate Microsoft. If I'm going to temporarily cripple myself by switching to a unix-based system just to kill Windows, I'm certainly not going to turn around and help them with their attempts to monopolize another area. Besides, they want to move console gaming online, and I'm completely opposed to that. I like paying for something once, thanks.

I'm planning on buying the PS3, and it would take something unexpected to stop me from doing so (like, Squenix and Konami both deciding to shun Sony forever). This decision is based primarily on the fact that the PS2 worked out well for me.

I might wind up with a Revolution, too. This will be mostly dependent on exactly how they work out downloading old games, and which titles are available. If Secret of Mana is available for download, I will buy a Revolution.
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I agree, I only like to pay for a game once and if it is going to be name brand like Warcraft or Final Fantasy. Add an offline feature, that way you get people who like the offline feature playing it and hopefully it might lead them to playing online as well.

Sega did a good job using this feature to sell some of there online games and if I hear that would make the game more boring, I guess some people never played the first Final Fantasy.

But don't you think Google has a better chance of taking over espically for PC computers very soon? But I know how it is to hate a system and hope all the good brands come back to my personal favorite. I did that when I got an N64 and refused to buy a playstation game till 1999.


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What system am I getting?

At these prices, you have to be kidding me. I was watching when the game industry announced that this generation of systems has profited the industry as a whole so to profit even more, they announced they were going to raise prices on the next generation games. I am guessing and hoping the $59.99 is more of a experiment and if people in the next couple of months show a trend of not buying games, they most likely will lower the price back to $49.99 to encourage growth.

But as for what system I want? Right now, like I said at these prices, no way. Not only are first release versions usually buggy and harder to adapt to later gamesand third party add ons but Its getting to a point to where I can buy anew hard drive for the price of some of these systems. I am going to hold off until the industry really lowers prices.

I’ll get an Xbox 360 because it is going to be the new RPG system for this generation but it will be awhile.

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