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Nah. I didn't want to with Mystic Knight and they're impossible with Berserker. Dragoon I tried, but I only had 2000 HP, so a single target-all attack killed me (tidal wave, atomic ray, poison breath, surge beam x2, etc.). So that's a no. As of now, I haven't beaten them.

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I started a Black Wizard challenge yesterday. Piece of cake. Once I acquired some Flame Rings, the game was over in my mind. Flame Rod + Flame Ring + Fire 2 on self = full heal. A multi-targetted Fire 2 on my party will heal ~800 HP out of 750. Nice. A third-tier spell with the corresponding element rod equipped deals ~3000 damage, making any battle a joke. Let's take Ex-death for example. I have all four equipped with Flame Rings and Rods. He hits me, I have one person Fire 2 my party, the other three Fire 3 him. There's like 8000 damage. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Didn't kill a single member. Sometimes, I equip 4 WallRings and then reflect Fire 3 or Bio off my party against a single enemy (e.g. Atomos), and that'll do like 7000 damage. Good for the quick kill (such as Odin). I should beat it tomorrow...I see nothing holding me back.

Once I get MP+30% and Aspil this will become a joke. Seriously. Black Wizards kick ass. They can effectively heal and deal MASSIVE damage. Can't beat them.

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Beat it! No problems with any boss, except Necrofobia. He gave me some issues, since I couldn't kill the barriers fast enough (reflecting Fire 3's isn't really effective), but I managed to beat him easy enough. A single Fire 3 (not reflected) deals 9999 damage against him. I was doing 8000 per Fire 3 against tree Ex-Death, and Neo wasn't hard, either.

Levels: 35-36
HP: ~1200
MP: ~400

Difficulty: 0

This post has been edited by Caesar on 5th August 2005 19:50

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Is PJ

I'm going to try an SCCC: single class and character.

I don't know if it's possible, and I'm 100% positive it's impossible with some classes (berzerker? ) but it sounds like fun. Monk should be pretty easy.

Well, I don't know if it's actually possible. Maybe an SCC is more reasonable. lol

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That has another more-well-known name: SSCC- straight single class challenge. That implies that you use only a single character and only a single class.

I'm going to finish all 22 SCC's before I move onto SSCC's.

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Is PJ

I'll tell ya right now, geomancer is impossible without flame rings. Get to liquidflame and watch yourself just fall over to him pounding at you.

I have just one question. Can you switch between the Bare job and the one job you selected for the challenge anytime you want to? And equip its abilities on the bare job?

Because if you can't do that, then it's a bummber to fight as a Bare in the beginning of a single class challenge.

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I have just one question. Can you switch between the Bare job and the one job you selected for the challenge anytime you want to? And equip its abilities on the bare job?

Do you mean, can you switch to bare once you mastered your class so it's basically like using the class except you can equip everything? That's a no. For me, at least. When I first start the game, I input the game genie code that enables all classes, and from then on (we're talking pre-Wind Shrine till the end of the game), I don't switch, no matter how impossible the battles are (Berserker against Sol Cannon and Sandworm...yea I would've LOVED to switch at least one character out).

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Quote (Caesar @ 8th August 2005 16:37)

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I have just one question. Can you switch between the Bare job and the one job you selected for the challenge anytime you want to? And equip its abilities on the bare job?

Do you mean, can you switch to bare once you mastered your class so it's basically like using the class except you can equip everything? That's a no. For me, at least. When I first start the game, I input the game genie code that enables all classes, and from then on (we're talking pre-Wind Shrine till the end of the game), I don't switch, no matter how impossible the battles are (Berserker against Sol Cannon and Sandworm...yea I would've LOVED to switch at least one character out).

Then there's no reason to start a SCC for you since you can't equip jobs while you fight as Bartz alone in the meteor crater and while rescuing Reina and Galuf.. But that's up to you..

Eh? There's no reason for me to start one because I went through two battles against 1-HP enemies without a job class? I was simply saying that, in the nature of the challenge, switching BACK to the bare class is not allowed. Once you pick a job, that's that.

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Is PJ

I started an archer SCC about 2 days, but didn't finish reading this topic to post until just now. I might not remember it all very clearly, but here are some highlights:
pre-wind shrine: I actually wished I was using spearless dragoons instead of bowless archers. At least dragoons had jump to dodge some attacks.
right after wind shrine: I got animals. No more wishing I was dragoons again. Rabid squirels+pre karnak= cakewalk.
liquidflame: about 5 tries, but I finally did it. Why doesn't nightingale ever show up when you need it? At least someone (Faris) has a bow now.
Byblos: Is hell. Potions don't heal nearly enough, I drain his mp, and nightingale NEVER shows up when i need it.
Rest of world 1:not too difficult, and nightingale is finally somewhat reliable!
Start of world 2-atomos: ME AND MY ARMY OF TINY WOODLAND CREATURES ARE INVINCIBLE! Also I picked up wall rings.
Atomos: I tried healing from his attacks and lost 4 times in a row. Then I got frustrated and just held down A and fast forward. Somehow, itb kills him.
Guido's Cave: I finally learned X-Fight. For the most part, any and all challenge is gone.
4-Seals: ouch. challenge is back. Decide to takethem one at a time, with someone constantly healing with high potions. it works.
N-Zone: just like to point out, against the forest boss, I had haste shoes on. She went first and casted regen on herself. I proceeded to use x fight with everyone. She died before regen healed her once.
Apanda: I've always considered apanda to be sorta like Byblos2. Only this time, my group ISN'T composed of bowless archers.
X-Death: I'm now lvl 45, and I can't beat him. I think I might need to level a little more, even though Dragoons and Blue Mages could both beat him at this level. Archers have niether healing nor jump, so after Almagest i'm pretty much gonna die. Any ideas?



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I can see Neo-ExDeath being tough with Archers, due to all the targets and the random targetting of X-Fight. He's a tough boss with any party, really. It's hard to keep healing, and Archers don't really have spectacular HP; they can't dodge an attack, either, like a Dragon or Bard can.

I think levelling up so all of your members can withstand an Almagest is the way to go. 4 Wall Rings to reflect the third-tier spells that they use, and to get past Ex-Death without suffering any damage.

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Well, right now they CAN withstand Almagest, It's just that I can't recover from it afterwards. I'm probably just gonna level up a little more, but I'd rather not.

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I'm in the middle of:

Dragoon/Lancer, (Steamship)
Knight, (Magissa-Not doing too well )
and Ninja. (Walse/Walz)

Dragoon and Ninja are easy enough, but Magissa is whooping my Knights' asses. Any suggestions? Im level 11.

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eh?

Don't one of the first towns sell BroadSwords and armor? I'm assuming you're doing the SCC and not the SSCC (the former using 4 characters, the latter using only 1). If so, then I can't really see anything else for you to do. They should be no problem at all, if you are equipped with the best you can find.

Dragoon is REALLY easy, once you learn how to activate the glitch. Sorta cheap, yes, but you don't have to worry about Atomos, Ex-death, Galura, or some parts of Neo-Exdeath.

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Is PJ

I myself was considering starting an SCC, but I haven't tried this before. Any suggestions as to what I should use? I don't want to use anything too strong for it (i.e. Samurai, Chemist), I want a challenge, just not one that'll drive me crazy.

Thanks in advance, you know, assuming someone'll say something

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Hmm. Well, I myself did Berserker, Mystic Knight, Black Wizard, and Dragoon. The latter three were all pieces of cake. Ones that might be fun yet moderately difficult might be Time Wizard, Summoner (until you get !Summon and/or some decent summon magic), Geomancer (though it might get tiring using !Terrain ALL the time), Blue Mage, Red Mage, and Mediator. They're mainly mages, yes, because the physical classes are not hard unless it's Thief or a weak class like that, in which case it's extremely difficult until you get some good equipment.

Hope this helps!

I always thought a Bard SCC would be fun, but until they get to Crescent, they're unbearably weak.

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Is PJ

I'm considering doing an SCC. What do you think would be could for someone doing their first SCC. Perhaps Mystic Knight...

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Dead Winter. A nice comic.

Well, that all depends on what kind of a challenge you're looking for. If you only want to do it, do it with your favorite class, definitely. But if you plan to do multiple SCCs, then it depends on what you want in your first challenge. If you want to do one just to get the jist of how it works, go with Mystic Knight (really easy). Also, it kinda depends on what type class you're comfortable using (physical vs magical).

I really enjoyed doing both Dragoon and Black Mage and neither were particularly difficult after you master the Jump glitch. Mystic Knight or either of those would be excellent choices. Not Berserker, that's for sure.

I can't see Samurai or Ninja being particularly hard, either,so either of those would be good, I'm sure.

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Is PJ

If Fox is still around: have you tried !Animals? Between level 10 and 60, you can get an MP-free healing spell in Nightingale, and if you level all the way up to 60 (which, granted, takes some time) you get a shot at Unicorn, which completely restores HP. It's random, but with some Hermes shoes you should get in quite some !Animals before the next Almagest (though you'll be equipping Wall Rings, so never mind the Hermes).

Don't do Dancer. Dancer is merely boring. You'll want to stick to
!Dance. Always.

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 6th October 2005 20:22

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I'm going to use the Game Genie code earlier in this thread and do Mystic Knight. Once I beat the game of course normally.

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Dead Winter. A nice comic.

I'm still here, Djibrie. Wasn't when you said that, but still. I've tried animals, it didn't work, although I'm only at lvl 50 right now. Ill try your idea if I can't beat him at 55 or 60 by ordinary means.

UPDATE: w00t, I finally beat him! Lvl 60 using a variation of the method Dijibriel suggested. Instead of wall rings I had haste shoes, and I had one person aiming instead of using animals. The reasons I went with haste shoes are because A. I needed to be able to use animals rapidly in order to have a decent chance of getting anything usefull, in otherwords nightingale or unicorn. B. Odin (from the magic lamp) killed off the parts using magic. Not sure if it's supossed to, but I'm not exactly complaining. Next up: Black Mages. I wanna do something easy and magic before I start theif.

This post has been edited by Fox on 28th October 2005 02:48

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Mercy?! I am the sixth phase of your world's destruction! would you like some evil pie?

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Well, i beat my Monk SCC a few weeks ago, so i might go for an archer now. My levels at the end were about 60-65. 'twas fun.

Am i right in saying that if you equip a job at the first chance you have (Tycoon Meteor) and you're doing an Mimic SCC, you have no chance in the first battle, because the only command you have is Mimic and you have no rods or anything to break?

has anyone done a bare game? (play the whole game with just the bare class? if it hasnt been said before...)

i guess itd be kindof easy, what with the rings and any equipment and all, but there wouldnt be any magic, except for rods. perhaps i should start a bare challenge.

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FBM, I'm not exactly sure how Mimic would work. You can assign !Item as a command for him, IIRC, but I don't remember if you could assign !Fight or not. If you could, you'd be all set. If not, ehhhhhhhh.

Zeromus_X, I remember someone asking that question before, or saying they were gonna do it. I don't remember who it was, but I quite sure it's been done before. Maybe it was said earlier in this thread? I dunno. Too lazy to check.

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Is PJ

If memory serves, you have to have learnt any other job ability before you can equip !Fight and !Item, so the first battle of the game is impossible as a Mimic.

after i beat FFV and i can say i have beaten every FF i own (I,II,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X,X-2,Tactics) and am moving on to the others i have yet to beat....i shall do the Black Mage SCC! YAY

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hey, Ceasar. How did you beat neo at 35-36? I'm at 35-37 on my black mage game, and almagest kills my entire party as soon as he uses it.

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Mercy?! I am the sixth phase of your world's destruction! would you like some evil pie?

My name is Fox, I am infinitely great, and I am the author of this comic strip..

Huge update: Finished Dragoon and Knight, temporarily abandoned Ninja, started and finished Black Mage, and started and am working on Samurai and Mystic Knight. Yay for me! These turned out easier than I thought. Also finished Dancer. Yay Sword Dance!

This post has been edited by Kimahri on 1st November 2005 22:44

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eh?

Fox, my characters have JUST enough HP to survive almagest: approximately 1700. Almagest does like 1500-1600 damage to everybody, so I just keep everybody fully healed at all times. I forgot what set-up I used against him, but I think I had Fire Rings all around and had two or three characters using Fire 3 on myself for the entire battle.

Or I may be mistaken, and maybe I used Wall Rings. I don't remember, honestly.

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Is PJ

I dare any of you guys here to try a Thief. It'll be worth it. The Double Lance rocks!! And Magic Lamp aswell.. You know you'll enjoy stealing

I got pretty far to Sage Gill's sunken home... I have no problem with any more bosses eversince Archeoavis.. Atomos wasn't even that hard because I stole plenty of Double Lances from the Rock Guards in Val Castle and Bartz, my LV 43 thief, does 900 Damage each blow with the Double Lance on Atomos!! Very useful..

Actually, while I was waiting for ceasar to tell me how he beat neo at that level (don't wanna go train if I don't have to), I started a theif game on a different save state. I'm not very far right now, though. I think I'm on the steamship.

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Mercy?! I am the sixth phase of your world's destruction! would you like some evil pie?

My name is Fox, I am infinitely great, and I am the author of this comic strip..