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Posted: 29th May 2005 00:52
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I was gonna post this in General Square-Enix's section but I didn't want to get in trouble..
In India in like 1526-mid 1600's there was an empire called the Mughal Empire and the other day I was reading about it and about burst out laughing even though no one would have gotten it. So was Moogle a made up name or could it have originated from the name of the empire in India? It'd be funny if it was from India if you ask me. -------------------- I love the SNES Final Fantasy games. I think PS2s are over-rated. and priced. Agent Muffin signing out... |
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Posted: 29th May 2005 04:57
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Maybe the people of India like to dance a lot.
Still, almost everything that Square uses came from somewhere else. Summons, weapon names, you name it. -------------------- This is my world: (Got my second chapter up, 3rd Chapter about 80% complete) http://www3.sympatico.ca/daniel876/homepage.html |
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Posted: 29th May 2005 06:59
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Just checked the pronunciation and it sounds exactly like the creature's name. I don't know if it's derivative from the empire, though. Seems like a strong possibility, what with Square's "borrowing" of religious and historical persons and phrases.
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Posted: 29th May 2005 15:05
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The pronounciation is definitely the same - I've seen it spelled Mogul before - but I doubt that it's an intentional reference. There is simply no clear relation between fluffy white bears with pink wings and a central Asian Muslim empire.
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Posted: 29th May 2005 16:47
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I agree with Laszlow. Though FF games have drawn from history and mythology, the thing that reflects the influence usually has some connection other than the name. It's too much of a stretch, and more 'n' likely a coincidence.
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Posted: 29th May 2005 17:07
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Well, the original japanese spelling is "MO-GU-RI." That's a hard 'o' sound. Which is where the translation error from FFT (Mogli, IIRC) and Mog's name come from.
Moogle would seem to originate from a bad translation. It's still a pretty neat coincidence though. Did the Mughal Empire have little floppy red balls on their helmets?  This post has been edited by Silverlance on 29th May 2005 17:08 -------------------- "Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession and the likelyhood of him sharing." |
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Posted: 31st May 2005 13:43
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I always assumed that moogles where named after the fluffy white hills that skiers hop over. Well not really, but whenever I watch downhill skiing I think of square...it's really embarassing...They aren't even pronounced the same.
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Posted: 4th June 2005 05:35
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Extended history lesson: Mughal/Mogul (this is the origin of the word mogul, btw) is the Indian version of the word Mongol. Why did they call themselves Mongols when the seat of thier empire was in India, you ask? The Mughal Empire was founded by members of a society that included both Persians and Turks, and the Turkish warriors claimed decendance from Ghengis Khan.
As for moguri -> moogle, can't we thank Mr. Woolsey for that, as well as things like sabotender -> cactrot? Also... Hi, I'm new. Doozo Yoroshiku. -------------------- "Cavefish is delicious, but only if cooked." |
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