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Has anyone ever attempted to beat fft useing only ramza and mercenaries? if so just wondering your favorite team

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You wont be saying that when you get a
lead pipe across the head -James (Darkness Illusions II)

I've done it numerous times. As a general personnal rule, I don't use special characters in story battle, save a few exceptions. And the first time I played the game, I didn't know I'll have special characters, and was really happy with my own soldiers, whom I had recruited in soldiers offices and named myself.

As a result, I didn't use the specials until I had finished the game (plus, I got rid of most of them along the way, and getting rid of Mustadio prevents from having most special characters anyway). I did it afterwards, but I stil prefer using my own units rather than some beefed-up unstoppable knights.

And also, welcome to Caves of Narshe. Hope you stay around for some time.

1. Welcome to CoN. Prepare to become addicted!! lol.

2. I have beaten the game without any special characters before. It isn't really hard if you have very good combinations of moves and stat boosters on a certain character.

3. Like the name... DivineKnight... I should make DivineKnight5000!! Just Kidding!! lol

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Hmm...go through the game with only generics, you say... That's a cool idea! I have to try it!!!

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Beating the game with genericsis EXTREMELY fun, just something about raising your characters from nothing to having them customized the way YOU want them. also it gives more of a challenge without nightsword and stuff. i usually just steal special characters equipment then leave them but i dont delete them until i have no room left, (EXCEPT MUSTADIO).

funny thing i actually thought about useing arcknight as my name when signing into this

im glad i found this forum i honestly thought i was the only one who harbord a deep obsession for fft.

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Peace sells... but Whos buyin? -Megadeth


You wont be saying that when you get a
lead pipe across the head -James (Darkness Illusions II)

I've said before that I treat the special characters as normal characters and rarely use their jobsets. This actually makes for the most difficult game since you are basically starting with characters w/ no special skills later and later into the game.

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Honestly, I don't think I've ever tried to beat the game using only special characters. I always use generics because I can then invest my time into my own custom characters.

1. Welcome to CoN!

2. I love the generics (I often try to make them be different jobs so they aren't too "generic"), but yeah I always beat the game with generics.

Egh, only generics you say??? Perish the thought! Although, what I like to do is master Orlandu in every class without actually changing his original Holy Swordsman title. Since I can't even play normally without that All Swordskill crutch at anytime there is no way I could attempt this challenge.

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Interesting thread. I have never tried beating the game without the special characters strictly because of storyline perposes. Orlandu is considered "dead" by the majority of Ivalice. You dissallow T.G. Cid to join you. Where or what is the poor old guy gonna door go? Agrias and Mustadio (and to a point, Meliadoul) are my favorite characters in the game besides Ramza and a game without those three sounds empty. But a game with all generics and maybe monsters, sounds like a fun challenge that you have inspired me to try! I'll do it!

This post has been edited by FabulousFreebird on 12th February 2005 15:38

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I still think playing the game with generics is the BEST way to play, imagine hireing mercenaries from the complete start and haveing them with you the WHOLE quest and useing ONLY them. It makes for more fun and more of a challenge instead of useing the infamous lightning stab at every apposing thing. the specials other then a few defintely steal most of the challenge away. i mean sure, keep the other characters but you dont have to use them only to open the subquests

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You wont be saying that when you get a
lead pipe across the head -James (Darkness Illusions II)

I think that the general appeal to using generic characters vs. special characters is the fact that you get to customize them and make them a part of you. With special characters, you end up getting the same attacks with the same skills every time you play the game. (ex. My Orlandu is always a Holy Swordsman with Charge or Battle Skill). The generic characters are always different. Case and point.

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I'm working on one of these games right now, and it really isn't much of a difference. This game is always fun, but never really difficult except for a few specific battles, and not having to do sidequests in a generics game makes it even easier. I think the a bigger challenge would be using an all male, all generic party, so you can't use the unbalancing Chantage accessory.

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Yeah, there should be no trouble with beating the game in this scenario. Generic characters are remarkably strong, and even though special characters have their own skillsets, forgetting the advantages of regular characters isn't a good idea. If you tend to use special characters more than normal ones, you might forget how useful those ninja and lancers really are.

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Quote (laszlow @ 15th February 2005 09:09)

I think the a bigger challenge would be using an all male, all generic party, so you can't use the unbalancing Chantage accessory.

I'm currently on my first playthrough and I accidentally ended up with this. I also Prefer Generics to Specials, though I keep all my special characters around for some reason.

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If you've been mod-o-fied,
It's an illusion, and you're in-between.
Don't you be tarot-fied,
It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean?
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Once I played through without using specials for the first time, I never went back. I have probably played through like that about four or five times, it just seems more satisfying to win with people you've brought up throughout the entire game.

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I am currently beating the game with all generics, except Agrais and Ramza. (Look, I didn't use Agrais at all in the last game, so I'm counting her as a generic.) I have an unbeatable team of Ramza (Monk), Agrais (Holy Knight), 2 Dancers, and a Ninja/Theif. I'm not doing half bad, and I stole Wiegraf's sword and Gafgarion's sword in all of the battles so they couldn't use their accursed sword techniques. Damn square for letting them have those techniques... I still have to do a lot of training, but the Dancers are mastered and the Ninja/Theif is mastered in both jobs and I am not sure if I changed the job last night, but I think that the generics are the most fun way to go through the game.

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Hey everybody.

This is my first post.

"Generics" all the way. And theres nothing generic about them. Besides Boyce the Monk and Spike the amazing teleporting Calc/Wizard would be very offended to be known as such. They're cool in a blank slate sort of way.


I tend to grow attached to my "generic" characters. Seeing that I usually also give most of my original party the boot, and purchase and name my own characters. The game seems to become overwhelmed with special characters and their un-balanced skills.

and as for what Orlandu would do if he didn't join up with Ramza...I'm sure he could go to chef's school. Use his swordskill to heat up pot pies. Beautician maybe?

Thanks for listening if you did,

Gooseknight

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1. Man, were gonna have every kind of knight in CoN that is possible.

(ArcKnight, DivineKnight, GooseKnight! We are the Shrine Knights!! )

2. My generics are the best! My dancing monk and my calculating ninja.

They are better than all the special characters that I have.
(Except Agrais, of course!)

This post has been edited by ArcKnight5000 on 18th February 2005 13:59

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"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America - there is the United States of America. There is not a black America and a white America and latino America and asian America - there's the United States of America."
~Barack Obama

Heres a challenge. Try beating fft with only ramza and 2 generics which CANT DIE meaning dont let them crystalize. Its what im doing right now. very tough...

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Peace sells... but Whos buyin? -Megadeth


You wont be saying that when you get a
lead pipe across the head -James (Darkness Illusions II)

Hmm, that's how I've been starting out all of my games. I only allow for two generics so I can let Mustadio and Agrias join my party without having to boot another character out.

It wouldn't be that hard of a challenge, though.

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It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change

I once wanted to try a low level but it's impossible without the level UP/level down trick to boost speed...

Always got stuck at the last battle of chapter 3 wich I had to see Rafa die 20 times before I got pissed off.

If you didn't know, the more characters you bring into battle the harder it will be in some cases. If one of your units die, you will revive him/her than he/she'll get killed right after meaning you just wasted a turn.

I'm saying so because I tried a game where I wasn't power leveling with Only ramza and it was extremely easy.

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I've done one main file (with my unstoppable "standard party"), one all-generic file, and one Ninja SCC challenge file. I'm currently working on my main file (which is an eternal work in progress, pretty much), a Black Mage SCC challenge file, and a randomless generic file (reset and restart if you get caught in a random battle).

Look, this game isn't difficult, low-number parties are very easy if you permit yourself to do things like level up indiscriminantly; the real challenge to this game is winning while personally forbidding things that make the game too easy, like leveling up.

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the best part is when u get rid of all the people you get name them yourself and then bring them with you to the end of the game without dying

I haven't finished the game yet(my PlayStasion is gone... *sniff*) but I just might try that...

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