Posted: 29th December 2004 05:44
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Hard to tell prior to the PSP's actual release, but from what I know right now the DS appears to be a much better choice. It lacks all the fancy peripherals that the PSP totes, but it makes up for it in innovation and a lower price tag. Sometimes I think that Sony forgets that people would rather have a superlative gaming system that stands by itself rather than a decent platform with the ability to play DVDs, or other similar features.
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Posted: 29th December 2004 15:00
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Quote (Sephiroth @ 15th August 2004 02:18) Ok... just watched the E3 video a couple of nights ago soI guess it would do some good to add a little bit of information about my choice. The PSP, gained alot of points because they played a Spider Man 2 preview on it and it looked just like I was watching TV, and it also does not have a normal backlight screen. It has a LCD screen and takes a... I guess you could call it a watch battery (since I don't remember what they are actually called) so your battery life is alot longer than the normal GBA SP rechargeable battery, and they also mentioned the fact that they are going to try to cut the price down as much as possible but were aiming the product at 18-35 year old males since they have more interest in games with more disposable income. That was bout all I thought was good about the PSP (and by the way the LCD is a widescreen, incase it wasn't obvious in the prototype pics). Ok, now to the DS. The Nintendo DS of course is popular because, 1: it can handle graphics more powerful than the N64. 2: it has two screens with one being a touch screen. They showed a demo of the new Metriod first person shooter game and let me tell you... I was very impressed. They guy showing off the DS showed that the top screen will be the map of the area you are in and the bottom screen will be the first person view. the great thing about this feature is that the bottom screen is the touch screen meaning if you get in a bind just tap your finger on what you want to shoot, and it will auto fire (which is going to be a feature on a lot of games like this to come). Pretty cool huh? Another thing I thought was neat, I noticed it is a big rumor that the DS system will not be backwards compatible. This is only a RUMOR... the representative for Nintendo assured everyone at E3 that it WILL be backwards compatible with all of the gameboy systems, only there will be two different ports instead of one (one for Game Boy and one for DS). As for multi player features (which weren't mentioned about the PSP by Sony) you can link 16 players together wirelessly (which we already all knew), but not only that, you can also link online with a friend in Japan or where ever else you might know someone far away with a DS, and I thought it was pretty neat that they showed some demos of games like Wario Ware Inc. that are nothing but touch screen throughout the entire game. There was alot more about the DS but I don't remember all of it, but in short (or as short as I could make it) the DS wins for me hands down... the PSP didn't seem that interesting, but I 've heard that alot of people are questioning whether or not the PSP is going to be more like a PS1 or a PS2 graphic wise and the games I saw were unmistakeably more like the PS2 which was a plus but still not good enough to take cash out of my pocket before the DS does. Sorry to say, but it is not backwards compatible with the original GB games, I don't have any GBC games, so you'll have to check that yourself. -------------------- Dang. And here I was hoping the next big thing in hip hop would be, y'know, silence. ~Djibriel Twilight Paladin.com We are now twilightpaladin.co.nr! It's not .com, but, oh well. The Twilight Forums! |
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Posted: 31st December 2004 00:00
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Quote (Twilight Paladin @ 29th December 2004 10:00) Sorry to say, but it is not backwards compatible with the original GB games, I don't have any GBC games, so you'll have to check that yourself. The mistake you made in your post is that I posted that August 15th and the DS didn't release until November 21st. At the time of August 15th Nintendo was still saying that it would be fully backwards compatible. None the less, it is still backwards compatible with the GBA which is better than the PSP can do. -------------------- Climhazzard is the timeless evil robot who runs some of the cool stuff at CoN (mostly logging chat, since there are no quizzes at the moment), all the while watching and waiting for his moment to take over the world. -Tiddles |
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Posted: 9th January 2005 01:39
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As far as I can tell, the DS is not compatible with the Gameboy Color games. I have it, and I can rembember something about it in the manual, but I'm not sure. The fact that it can play GBA games though is very good.
As far as which is better, definently DS. It has more battery life, the screen will probably last longer because it is protected, not to mention the slew of games. Come on, Goldeneye, Zelda and the Ocarina of Time, Super Smash Brothers? You know they are going to put these games out, so the DS is going to rock. Not to mention Super Mario DS (Super Mario 64), which is already out, is a fantastic game. When it comes to handheld, Nintendo has dominated the market and will likely continue to do so. With their handheld already being out, they will have a toehold before Sony even puts anything out. Edit I just checked, and the DS is not compatible with Gameboy Color games. The game will not fit in the slot and lock like it does in a gameboy color or advance. So no, the DS does not play gameboy color games. This post has been edited by DaKenster on 9th January 2005 01:43 -------------------- I plan to live forever, or die trying! Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Live every day as if it were your last. Eventually you’ll be right. What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? |
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Posted: 10th January 2005 19:12
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From what I understand the PSP released in Japan the 12th of last month and they are already having problems with them, and yet Sony releases another worthless pile of machine before it's ready for the market. Anyone remember when the first model of PS2 got recalled?
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Posted: 10th January 2005 19:27
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I'd have to go with the DS just because of its possibilities. Ever since the days of Atari, advancements in gaming systems have been focused on 3 things:
1. More buttons 2. Better graphics 3. Better computer components (separate from graphics because graphics are such a big part of games). It used to be that those kinds of advancements would take years, making somewhat large gaps between NES and SNES, Genesis and Dreamcast, and so on. But now we're at a point where a new system comes out almost every year, so now the gaming tech race is gonna be based on innovation instead of power. The DS has innovation coming out the wazoo, while the PSP is just a portable Sony console. I just hope we won't have to add "4. More touch screens" to that list I mentioned. |
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Posted: 10th January 2005 23:35
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The first model of the PS2 got recalled because it had all that "hardware", but couldn't use it or didn't. Anyways, I have heard the PSP is having problems in Japan. I don't know if they will have all that fixed by the time it hits America.
I agree with the innovation on the DS. The Feel the Magic XX/XY game is one of the games that really utilizes the touch screen on the DS. The several mini games require precise use of the stylus or your finger (your choice, as both have good points for certain games). There is even a game where you have to blow on the screen to put out candles, and another where you have to blow on the screen to move a ship. How cool is that? You can't use the stylus or your finger to do it, you actually have to blow. And the one with the ship, the harder you blow, the farther the ship moves. The game is very different, but is an interesting look at the features of the DS, and show the potential of this incredible system. Not to mention they are making Goldeneye for it!!! -------------------- I plan to live forever, or die trying! Light travels faster than sound. That’s why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Live every day as if it were your last. Eventually you’ll be right. What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? |
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Posted: 11th January 2005 17:38
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While the DS in itself is an amazing handheld, much better than the PSP from what I can tell. Doesn't anyone worry about the touch screen ruining certain games? I mean sure, the touch screen for SM64DS didn't do too much, and you could choose if you wanted to use it for more than menu selections or not. And the mini-games were fun. But some of these other games really worry me, because I just think they'll be ruined. Games like Castlevania, which is coming out for the DS (Direct sequel to Aria of Sorrow)
Luckily Koji Igarashi says that it's a pure action game, and he doesn't want the constant use of the DS to hamper gameplay. So what they have planned for now, is after you kill a boss you draw a seal. But if you mess up the boss comes back to life. That was a bit disappointing to me. :\ And it's a given that a lot of rerealeses are going to incorporate the touch screen in one way or another. Zelda FSA is coming out. Loved that game, but if they add in touch screen necessity i'd be sad. Same goes for Xenosaga. Oh well though, guess i'll just have to wait and see. -------------------- This one time I punched a bear in the forehead TO DEATH! I still have the scars on my chest. I am the manliest man that ever did man. League: Z3roHawk Steam: Zero_Hawk Wii U: Zero_Hawk FF14 - Goblin - Zero Hawk <Fiend> |
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Posted: 11th January 2005 19:59
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Silly Sony, rushing the product before its complete... why do some many companies do this? I'd ratehr have them release it a year late an dhave it work perfectly, than rush the product out simlpy to meet a deadline, becuase the company big wigs wanna make a good impression on their "efficiency". Otherwise, I would gladly have taken the PSP over the DS, but not at this rate, with all the problems they're having with it.
Anyway, the DS looks okay, it feels clunky in my hands, and while the touchscreen is neat and all that, I personally would never want to use it. If they make it a necesity for all/most future releases, then I'm never going to bother playing it, and stick with my GBA. I suppose it would be useful as a menu screen for RPGs, but other than that, or games specifically centered around the touchscreen for creative gameplay, I don't see the point. -------------------- And behold, I saw a Pale Gaming System, and the name of he who rode it was Squaresoft, and Enix followed him. |
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Posted: 12th January 2005 00:15
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I agree with sharkerbob is saying. You shouldn't rush a product if it has bugs in it, you should way to release it when you know you won't have to deal with too many complaints. I was personally into the PSP at first because it had better hardware, but when it started having all the problems in Japan, I really lost interest. There is still some hope that they will have it mostly fixed up by the time it hits the U.S.
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Posted: 17th January 2005 07:15
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Quote (Sylphid @ 15th December 2004 13:41) With our luck, we'll proably get a port of Quest 64. Oh boy, we sure can hope! Quote (sharkerbob) but other than that, or games specifically centered around the touchscreen for creative gameplay, I don't see the point. Wouldn't that be PRECISELY what the pad would be most useful for? That's what the whole point of the touchpad is. to add a new element to gameplay. Quote (DaKenster) but when it started having all the problems in Japan, I really lost interest. There is still some hope that they will have it mostly fixed up by the time it hits the U.S. Most of those claims were blown out of proportion by rabid Nintendo fanboys. The PSP has defects but not to the extent to make it unplayable. I would be much more concerned with the significant difference in battery life between the two. The PSP has been rated as being wildly fluctuating but. on average, incredibly short in terms of battery life. That could affect long gameplay in things like RPGs. Just something to think about. |
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Posted: 18th January 2005 02:48
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Quote ((Carlos) @ 17th January 2005 02:15) Most of those claims were blown out of proportion by rabid Nintendo fanboys. The PSP has defects but not to the extent to make it unplayable. I would be much more concerned with the significant difference in battery life between the two. Although I chose the DS over PSP I still do agree with this. The PSP didn't really have that much wrong with it. It did however have more problems than the DS. The only problem I've heard of so far with the DS was the fact that 500 units were reported to have Dead Pixel Syndrome within the first 3 days of it's release. This problem was shortly fixed and all five hundred units replaced. -------------------- Climhazzard is the timeless evil robot who runs some of the cool stuff at CoN (mostly logging chat, since there are no quizzes at the moment), all the while watching and waiting for his moment to take over the world. -Tiddles |
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Posted: 15th February 2005 22:24
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I think the PSP will be better because while Nintendo might be older and have a biger rep I have always liked PlayStation because they make better games in my opinion because they make games with more violance (lol theres a reason for ya) and nintendo doesn't and I have always liked games with violance and blood. (rofl)
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Posted: 18th February 2005 00:16
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Quote (Zeil @ 15th February 2005 17:24) I think the PSP will be better because while Nintendo might be older and have a biger rep I have always liked PlayStation because they make better games in my opinion because they make games with more violance (lol theres a reason for ya) and nintendo doesn't and I have always liked games with violance and blood. (rofl) I'm hoping against hope that this whole post is a funny joke. Anyway, it seems that the PSP's early problems in Japan are being met with astoundingly poor business sense. Example: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/24/news_6116985.html Blaming gamers for not appreciating a design flaw is probably the worst thing that Sony can do at this point. Much as I love the Playstation and its variants, I get the feeling that they're way in over their heads when it comes to the handheld market. Barring a massive policy overhaul, it looks like Nintendo comes away from this fight the king yet again. The DS, which I've gotten a chance to play with recently, owns mightily. It still needs a truly great flagship game to get it off the ground, though. Hopefully the forthcoming Metroid will take care of that. -------------------- "I always have a quotation for everything - it saves original thinking." ~Dorothy L. Sayers "The truly remarkable thing about television is that it allows several million people to laugh at the same joke and still feel lonely." ~T.S. Eliot "Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as reality - in your own mind!" ~ Bruce Lee |
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Posted: 18th February 2005 00:47
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Actually, SuperMoogle, I have the worst feeling that Zeil WAS serious... goodness....
But back on topic, I think that both systems will survive for at least this generation, but I also boldly predict the DS (which is a stupid name) will survive for another incarnation and the PSP (which is also a stupid name) won't. Both systems will score some good developers, but I sincerely doubt that the PSP will make enough money for Sony to continue putting effort into it. Personally, I believe that Nintendo's best work is done on handhelds, and they can put up some good games for their DS for at least a few years. I mean, come on. Have you seen Castlevania DS yet? It looks gorgeous. And Zelda on two screens? Imagine the possibilities. -------------------- |
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Posted: 18th March 2005 05:25
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I hate to revive a dying/dead topic, almost as much as I hate double posting a month apart (does it still count as double posting?), but now that the PSP reviews are coming in strong the devil on my shoulder preventing me from studying for my Economics quiz feels the need to comment.
It's kind of hard to name an excellent DS game outside of Mario and possibly the upcoming Metroid Prime title. Gamespot has given only one DS game (Mario) greater than a 7.7, while the PSP's launch titles appear to be WAY stronger, with the incredible Lumines , and some solid Darkstalkers, Need for Speed, and Tony Hawk games. The Best Buy that I work at three days a week just had the Sony rep come in showing it off/detailing the gaming section staff on it; Lumines is an awesome puzzle title that Nintendo only wishes it had, and the other game that I checked out, with the rather bland title "NBA," seemed to be a pretty solid basketball game, but I honestly don't play sports games enough to have a valuable opinion. In short, having decent experience with the PSP and rather extensive experience with the DS, right now the PSP appears to be the better handheld. I know we have to wait before some big names from each side enter the fray, but Nintendo needs a super-lineup soon or else the DS can go the way of the Gamecube - still popular, but an undisputed last place in the States. -------------------- |
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Posted: 18th March 2005 21:17
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They both have their own strengths, but DS looks pretty bad and it's already been out for like 2 months. I'm getting a PSP for Advent Children obviously.
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Posted: 18th March 2005 21:33
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Nintendo faces an interesting quandary in the upcoming battle of the handhelds. For once, its hardware is infinitely superior to its opponent's - the sheer impracticality and unreliability of the PSP's design ensures this. However, Nintendo's admittedly lackluster opening lineup is a surefire weakness this early in the game. How they plan to cope with this is anyone's guess.
I still favor the DS personally, as Sony has made far too many mistakes with the PSP to warrant anything save my contempt. It's kind of hard to trump up their superior games when the PSP itself is so unweildy and impractical. Sony's glaring PR errors concerning the device are also notable. If early numbers are any indication, the DS is winning rather handily, but such things are prone to change. This post has been edited by Super Moogle on 18th March 2005 21:34 -------------------- "I always have a quotation for everything - it saves original thinking." ~Dorothy L. Sayers "The truly remarkable thing about television is that it allows several million people to laugh at the same joke and still feel lonely." ~T.S. Eliot "Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as reality - in your own mind!" ~ Bruce Lee |
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Posted: 18th March 2005 23:04
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Quote (Super Moogle @ 18th March 2005 16:33) Nintendo faces an interesting quandary in the upcoming battle of the handhelds. For once, its hardware is infinitely superior to its opponent's - the sheer impracticality and unreliability of the PSP's design ensures this. However, Nintendo's admittedly lackluster opening lineup is a surefire weakness this early in the game. How they plan to cope with this is anyone's guess. I agree with that, Nintendo often makes that mistake, the good games often come several months after they are done. Hopefully that game will be FF III. -------------------- Could you repeat that? |
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Posted: 18th March 2005 23:13
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Quote (Green Magi @ 18th March 2005 18:04) Quote (Super Moogle @ 18th March 2005 16:33) Nintendo faces an interesting quandary in the upcoming battle of the handhelds. For once, its hardware is infinitely superior to its opponent's - the sheer impracticality and unreliability of the PSP's design ensures this. However, Nintendo's admittedly lackluster opening lineup is a surefire weakness this early in the game. How they plan to cope with this is anyone's guess. I agree with that, Nintendo often makes that mistake, the good games often come several months after they are done. Hopefully that game will be FF III. I guess I'm with Super Moogle here, even if I fail to see the "impracticality" (unreliability, yes, but impracticality?) of the PSP. Right now the PSP's lineup is much better than the DS's, but both systems have some more big name games coming up. That PSP Death Jr. game has been hyped like nothing else, so it better be good, and they have the 3D hardware to make some decent magic, even if the DS's design exceeds and power nearly matches that of the SP. Oh, and Green Magi, it ain't going to be FF III that brings the DS credibility, it'll be Castlevania ![]() -------------------- |
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Posted: 20th March 2005 04:02
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Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Darkstalkers Chronicles, Crisis Core and others look pretty promising for PSP. I'm pretty sure that I'll get both because of Final Fantasy III and Crystal Chronicles on DS, though. Not to mention Super Mario 64 DS and Metroid for DS, as well.
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