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Guys I need your help!

I have been trying some PSX Emulators but they either don't work on my comp or they are too crappy. I tried VGS, the sound and music were so bad that I still don't understand why my speakers aren't in thousand pieces when I was going to smash them with a baseball bat.

Anybody knows a good PSX emulator that is compatible with Windows XP, not being a pain for ears? I don't really care for graphics because I want to play FFT on emulator for Screenshots. Oh and plz, give me an emulator that can read real PSX games on CD-ROM.

Thanks,

Zodiac

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Sayonara

You own Tactics for psx right? From what I understand there are no actual psx roms, you have to actually have the game. the emulators just play'em on your comp. (Of course... I could be wrong)

I don't know what psx emulators are good, but i can recommend a site. (But you'll have to find it.

on goolge, try Emulator - Zone. Find a site with that name
(Emulator *Dash* zone)

Hope that helps.

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Link: "What is it?"
Mario: "It's coin, what the hell does it look like?"
Link: "Well.... What do you do with it?"
Mario: "You buy lives with them."
Link: ".... Isn't that slavery?"
~Mario/Link crossover comic~

The exist Strife543 and in fact, if you do a google search on them there are dozens of them just on one page. Just go to google and type in playstation emulator, I'm sure you'll get plenty to browse through Zodiac. I'd link to some but I'm betting that links ROMs will be found on the sites I'd link to and CoN has rules against linking to ROMs. Hopefully that helps you Zodiac.

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Role reversal at its finest.

Yes but the fact is, my Video card doesn't seem to support the drivers offered by emulators using BIOS. With them, I can only get a blank, white window.



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Sayonara

The use and distribution of BIOS images is explained in just about every emulator's readme as being illegal unless you ripped them yourself from a console you use.

Piracy should not be condoned.

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

There are roms? Huh.... Go figure. Well now I know, thanks ^-^

.... Wait.... I already own both a psx and ps2, what good does this info do me now?.... Crap, lol.

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Link: "What is it?"
Mario: "It's coin, what the hell does it look like?"
Link: "Well.... What do you do with it?"
Mario: "You buy lives with them."
Link: ".... Isn't that slavery?"
~Mario/Link crossover comic~

Er... what's an emulator? I think I'm gonna get one so I can play Kingdom Hearts.

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"No matter what happens, I will always be with you... forever." ---- Pocahontas, Pocahontas

"Only those who are already at the top are rewarded without trying."----- Delita Hyral, Final Fantasy Tactics

http://www.ffshrine.org/fft/fft-midi/1-42-back_fire01.mid ---- My favorite FFT battle song

I don't think explaining what it is would be against the rules so I'll give it a shot. (Mods, if it is then forgive me ^-^)

Emulator - A program which plays roms. (Roms = Games) It comes with multiple settings (Joypad config. Sound Config. Video Config. Etc) Which allows you to customize the emulator to your prefrences. There are multiple emulators for each system (Cept snes, theres only like 3 o.o) Depending on your comp some emulators may or may not work. Emulators are handy if you don't own the actual system but still want to play the games.

Roms - Consle games that have been uploaded to a computer. Play them with Emulators. But: It's against the law to keep the rom on your comp for more than 24 hours if you don't own the actual copy of the game. (Or so I've been imformed)

I hope that helps, once again, if its against the rules then I didn't know o.o

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Link: "What is it?"
Mario: "It's coin, what the hell does it look like?"
Link: "Well.... What do you do with it?"
Mario: "You buy lives with them."
Link: ".... Isn't that slavery?"
~Mario/Link crossover comic~

An emulator is a piece of software that allows your computer to act differently, as if it were operating under different software specs. Example: Virtual PC is a comercial program that allows Macintoshes to act as if they were running Windows so you could use windows applications on your Mac or in your case a PS2 game on your PC.
In the world of gaming, emulators are often frowned upon because they can promote the distrabution of pirated games over the internet. Still To my knowlege, the gaming emulators themselves is legal but you need software to run them. Most importantly, the actual games. The use of games with an emulator is only allowed under certain stipulations:

1. You must own a copy of the game and upload it, via the proper hardwear. In the case of the PSX, that's probably just a regular CD-ROM drive.

2. You must get a copy of your game onto the computer. Downloading them off he net or getting one from your friend somehow is illegal, even if you own the game.

3. The extra copy of the game that you have is considered a backup copy. The reason this is important is because that means you can't be playing the game on your computer and game console at the same time. (This only applies if you have an extra copy of the game on your computer. If you're playing off of the CD, this obviously can't happen.)

However, unfortuanatly for you Kilakandra_DiMenia there is no such thing as a PS2 emulator at the moment. It would have to be developed first and due to Sony's excellent software protection, nobody's been able to replicate their latest console, the PS2.

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The use and distribution of BIOS images is explained in just about every emulator's readme as being illegal unless you ripped them yourself from a console you use.

Piracy should not be condoned.

Correct on all accounts there Silverlance. Especially the last one . I know the BIOS image isn't allowed distrabution but I think that's because it's copyrighted softwear. There are substitutes that have been developed by others, they just don't generaly work as well at the actual BIOS file. The only thing I can reccomend to you Zodiac is to try and find an alternative that works with your video card or to buy a new video card if ripped your own PSX'es BIOS file. Sorry if that's not satisfactory but that's all I can reccomend.
Well there is one other option but it's probably worthless now. I remember reading, in Macworld magazine, a review for a comercial playstation emulator and some games during the late ninteen-nineties. Its not entirly impossible that if you look hard enough, that you can find a used copy of said softwear or something simmilar for Windows in a computer store. Then again, it might not be Windows XP compatible. I guess you could always try though, I mean it couldn't hurt.

On a closing note, please don't pirate softwear. Its rips off softwear companies and is highly illegal. Not to mention that Squaresoft, Sony, Bill Gates or somebody else will send lynches for you and your family. What? Can't I joke around a little?

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In the short amount of time I was writing this, more infromation that should be addressed popped up.

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Roms - Consle games that have been uploaded to a computer. Play them with Emulators. But: It's against the law to keep the rom on your comp for more than 24 hours if you don't own the actual copy of the game. (Or so I've been imformed)

It's illegal to download copies of video games from the net to your computer, period. Not for any purpose. No 24 hour trials, no educational purposes, none at all. Sorry, you must own the game and upload it yourself.

Edit 2: Just after reading the post by Tiddles, I realized I slightly misworded some of my sentances. I'm just clairifying what I originaly ment.

This post has been edited by Tonepoet on 5th February 2005 23:17

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Role reversal at its finest.

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Piracy should not be condoned.

Correct on all accounts there Silverlance. Especially the last one .

Forgive me if I'm just not getting a friendly joke and taking it seriously, but on what accounts do you base that statement? You ARE aware that you're talking to someone who makes a living selling software?

I remember reading about that Mac emulator; they went to court and won. I didn't follow up too closely on the details though, but I wouldn't be surprised if there exists a PC version. I think it was called Connectix something-Station?

But really, why would you want to play a PSX game on a PC when you can have the real thing on a real TV with a kick-ass stereo, the whole chilling-in-the-living-room-with-a-game ambiance, and absolutely no problem running any game?

Edit: Ah, lol, sorry. I missed that other paragraph.

Say no to piracy. The freeware alternatives are actually very easy to find and sometimes even better than the commercial ones. Oh yeah, and don't do drugs. And stay in school! And eat your veggies or no dessert! And stop picking on your little brother or you get the chair again!!

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 5th February 2005 05:07

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

The use of emulators is legal in all cases regardless of whether you own the original system hardware or not. The only realistic case where you could end up with an emulator that's illegal to use is the case where the emulator is also illegal to distribute. That can happen, if it contains copyrighted software code (e.g. a PlayStation BIOS, commercial ROMs included with the distribution, or potentially reverse-engineered code). Feel free to link to emulators here. A large number of sites do indeed discuss and offer them without the presence of ROMs for clear legal reasons.

Two widely-known commercial PSX emulators exist: Bleem and Connectix Virtual Game Station (VGS). Neither are still in production, and neither are up to the level of freeware alternatives.

ePSXe is generally held to be the best PSX emulator currently available (as far as I'm aware).

PSX emulation frequently involves the use of real, physical CDs, whether genuine or pirated. Naturally, it's possible to obtain CD images over the Internet, though these tend to be much larger than ROM images for cartridge-based consoles (except in the case of very small, crappy games like Ridge Racer). It's just as illegal as ROM image distribution though.

In theory, you can emulate using a genuine PSX CD perfectly legally. In practice, you generally need to obtain a BIOS file illegally to do so. In moral terms, I'm not personally going to cry over BIOS piracy, simply because console manufacturers tend to make a loss (or very little profit) on hardware sales which is recovered through software licensing. But if you're determined to stay on the right side of the law, don't do it, and in any case, don't offer or link to BIOS images on these forums since they do need to avoid legal issues.

There's no moral defence for piracy of commercially available PSX software, really.

This post has been edited by Tiddles on 5th February 2005 18:59

I was finally able to make the emulator work on my computer but it still took me a lot of my time (almost a full hour).

There is something I don't really Understand:

On a Game CD you have the game of course and the music wich can only be read while playing. I don't actually understand why everyone has to buy the soundtracks CD while a little program on Internet could be offered that changes the music format of those files since you actually own them. This kinda makes me think of something like this:
- Hi, umm I'm sorry could I have some change for my $5?
- It will be $2,50 + taxes
I think It should be the same for BIOS, that's strange. I actually bought a PSX and a PS2 from Sony, wich reason could they give me so that I can't use their BIOS...

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Sayonara

While I haven't read up on everything, I can at least think of one good reason. No matter if you do or don't already own a BIOS file, whatever copy you get off of the internet is still a bootleg copy. It 'twas illegal for it to even be out there to get it in the first place. With that fact in mind, you should think of taking the BIOS file as being an accomplice to a crime. In fact, it is seeing as there would be no point in offering the BIOS on the net if people didn't download it. It's copyrighted softwear just like the ROM image of a game and as such, has simmilar rules. In short, just think of BIOS just as you would a game, except that you can't play it.

Luckily for you, seeing as how there are all of these copies of it on the net, there is most likely a way to get the BIOS file from a playstation and put it onto a computer. I'm betting that there's some sort of special equipment to upload the file onto your computer. Also, to my knowlege, you're entitled to one backup copy of any and all of the softwear you legaly own. Theoreticly, if you could obtain the proper equipment and upload the BIOS file from your playstation to your computer, then you can legaly use that copy of it. However, I could be wrong for some reason that I'm not aware of or am fumbled up about at the current moment. I'm sure Silverlace, Tiddles or somebody else knowlegeable about computers and/or softwear laws can shed more light on the issue.

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Well, I did say it was a wild guess. Anyway thanks Tiddles, I'm just here to delete that BIOS is piracy protection theory out now as its pointless and misleading to have false information up. I also forgot to mention that there are demo versions of Bleem and VGS out there so you could find and download them as an alternative. Its good to keep in mind that demos have thier limits though.

This post has been edited by Tonepoet on 6th February 2005 18:17

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Role reversal at its finest.

BIOS stands for Basic Input Output System. Every PC has one. It has nothing to do with anti-piracy, but it's copyrighted software that's illegal to distribute, just like a game.

There are indeed methods of "backing up" your PSX BIOS to your PC (the ones floating around on the Internet didn't get there by magic, after all). It's also possible, in theory, to write software that would emulate the BIOS without breaking any copyright; Connectix VGS didn't need you to supply a BIOS file, though Sony alleged that the original BIOS was used verbatim in the emulator and sued them for it. I don't know how that turned out.

While you're certainly on stronger legal ground backing up a real PSX BIOS vs. downloading one, I think it's a rather silly distinction if you do own an original copy. At the end of the day, it's up to your own conscience: I've never heard of anyone facing a legal challenge for downloading a BIOS rip.

On the subject of Connectix, I believe they won because Sony couldn't prove they were using a copy of their bios instead of their own shot at it, which is perfectly legal (like has been said before, the emulator itself is quite legal, it's the actual proprietary material that comes with the console, such as the bios or any form of unusual copy-protection, for instance, that isn't.) Sony later bought the company and dismantelled it however.

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."