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Okay, this is off subject... or maybe it's back on subject, I don't know, I'm just gonna answer the original question.

For me, it is all about how well we interact.  I can't really talk too much about it, because I have limited experience in this area, but I do have someone who is perfect.  Now I don't mean perfect as in "insert halo here" but more as in a perfect fit for me.  In my own warped perception, she is the most beautiful thing on this earth, but that is all because we are so open and clear to each other that I can see straight through anything she has around her directly to her soul, with the faith and knowledge that she can see the same in me.  I knew her and loved her the moment I met her, and know that we will be together for as long as possible.  I don't get to see her often, but we talk on the phone and online constantly.  As for physical appearance, I didn't have time to really notice it until I was already hooked, so it didn't matter, only the feelings in my heart.  But I still think I got lucky, as many people tell me when they see her.  Judge for yourselves:

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Thanks for letting me rant.  That is all.

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Kimi ga ite, boku ga iru.
Sore dake sa.  Sore ga subete sa.

Translated:
You're here, and I'm here.
That's all.  That's everything.

She's pretty, right now I'm hooked up with an ex girlfriend that me and her broke up with before over the fact we were close enough to call each other, but not close enough to visit. Anyway, she and I can see each other on weekends and when we do...dreamyness... I'd let her murder me, and I would die with a smile.

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At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)

Okay, I admit - she used to be pretty.  But I've updated now.  And I have to say, she is just the best.  Nuff said.

New Pics

Don't you all agree?..... says the wild-eyed man in love.... sigh....

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Kimi ga ite, boku ga iru.
Sore dake sa.  Sore ga subete sa.

Translated:
You're here, and I'm here.
That's all.  That's everything.

well mate I'm happy for you I'll be gone 3 days to meet someone near Melbourne.

Humm let me think I have sort of an odd tast in men.Though I think a lot of women have very hight standers aka(Prince charming) They are to judgemantal. I would have to say a guy who is sweet and can make me laugh. Someone who is strong in his faith and belifes.Someone I can talk to, be my self and won't judge me. It  would be a plus if he had a nice smile, and could play the guitar .

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Henery David Thoreau

Quote (Lilly @ 18 Dec. 2002, 12:42)

Humm let me think I have sort of an odd tast in men.Though I think a lot of women have very hight standers aka(Prince charming) They are to judgemantal. I would have to say a guy who is sweet and can make me laugh. Someone who is strong in his faith and belifes.Someone I can talk to, be my self and won't judge me. It  would be a plus if he had a nice smile, and could play the guitar .

Your comments remind of something else. How important is religious faith in a relationship? Must a guy share your faith, or just be strong in his?

You could go out with Dave Lister he plays the guitar.

I am a Practicing  Catholic my self. I guess I would go out with a guy who didn't share my faith,but it would be hard. I'm not a closed minded person but it just the way I am.What if we end up geting married I'de like to baptise our childern rase them in the faith,it would be hard if we were not both Catholic.I know it would put a lot of stress on our marridge..I know cause my father is not very into the faith.And its been very hard on the family.Also you get into belifes such as abortion, controsepitves...ect ect.So yes to awncer your question it would be nice if we shared the same faith.

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Quote (Lilly @ 19 Dec. 2002, 13:24)

I am a Practicing  Catholic my self. I guess I would go out with a guy who didn't share my faith,but it would be hard. I'm not a closed minded person but it just the way I am.What if we end up geting married I'de like to baptise our childern rase them in the faith,it would be hard if we were not both Catholic.I know it would put a lot of stress on our marridge..I know cause my father is not very into the faith.And its been very hard on the family.Also you get into belifes such as abortion, controsepitves...ect ect.So yes to awncer your question it would be nice if we shared the same faith.

I understand how you feel, I recently joined the Seventh Day Adventist Church 8 months ago. They've tried to restrict my eating habits, they say I'm not allowed to eat to meat especially pork. No drinking and no tobacco(well I can understand that). They are also quite lazy in how they say they help people. Very few do it, but those that do are pretty good. It was also the sheltering of my church that resulted in my parents divorce. My mother was raised as an adventist, my father wasn't. Going out to clubs is also outlawed by my religion and they gave the most stupid reason "because people dancing start touching each other". Well people do that in relationships anyway.

As for me its a real dilemna But Lilly I wish you all the best I'm certain you'll be paired with someone you'll love.

I think you can go dancing and have a good time with friends.But its true at clubs things can get out of hand at times.I guess all things in modration.

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Going out is fine. But all forms of dancing with partners is outlawed.

That must be hard on you to deal with. I find myself that it's easiest to just accept the faith your partner believes in as their faith, and your own as your own. I was raised Catholic (and rejected it, no offence to practising Catholics, but it wasn't for me. And others, please don't turn this into a "why I don't like the Catholic church" thread") and my father is presbyterian but none practising. My mom never pressed her beliefs on him, and they have a happy marriage. Now my fiancee is Wican, and I'm closer to Atheist then anything, but we don't let religious beleifs get in the way of how we act towards each other.

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Quote (AnarchistDream @ 11 Dec. 2002, 17:39)

She's pretty, right now I'm hooked up with an ex girlfriend that me and her broke up with before over the fact we were close enough to call each other, but not close enough to visit. Anyway, she and I can see each other on weekends and when we do...dreamyness... I'd let her murder me, and I would die with a smile.

Wow, AD, I'm in pretty much the exact same situation. Though we haven't actually gotten back together yet, we've told each other how we feel, and we're seeing how far it goes.

As for the topic as it stands now, it's my personal belief that even though there's only one god, all religions woship true gods, because they're all the same god, whatever form they take, and all differences are just semantics. So dating someone of a different religion is no problem for me.

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I've kind of given up on dating and girls for right now. I think I'll go live in the mountains or something. bah.

I'm not going to ask you why  you left the Catholic church I'm shure you have your reasons.I myself have struggled in my faith at times.At first my faith was something I did for my mother,but then I joined my youth group and found that it was something I wanted.It was not for my Mum it was something I wanted to do as an adult. I'm not condeming you at all.Just stateing that it's more my faith then my parents

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Elena you don't need to explain I can pretty much guess why. I'm sure its a similar reason as to why many other people leave the churches.

Religion AND women in the same thread? A bit of a touchy subject, wouldn't you say? All we need now is politics. Yet, I can see how it pretains to the subject, so I'll throw in my two cents; I'll just say this first: I'm not trying to preach or convert anyone, I'm just throwing in my take on things for casual conversation. The most important part of my life is my Catholic faith, (I almost joined the priesthood when I was younger), so how could I share my intire self with someone who does not share the most important part of me? I know that many people do not share my sentiments, and see religion as a personal thing, but for a Catholic the thought is "The two shall become one flesh". That means everything, there's no room for disagreements of such a nature. Yet, I can't really say that when dateing I would look for someone who shares my faith. As a Catholic I believe that God has a plan for me, includeing someone who God's plan for includes marrying me. So if I were to find this person, and they were not Catholic, I would just have to trust in God. So I guess I would have to say that religion is very important to me when it comes to a potential spouse, but if I were to find the right person, I'd just have to leave it to God. And that's my take on things.

(And for those of you who are politicaly minded: Yes I vote republican.  But That doesn't matter in a relationship.)

Be careful, guys, religious discussions have a history of going sour...

I think I wouldn't mind at all if my future wife didn't share my religious or political beliefs. As long as she was open minded to have nice discussions with me about it. I would hope, though, that she wouldn't want to push her religion on our kids too strongly. One of the things I like about how my mother raised me was the fact that she allowed me to come to my own conclusions about religion and politics, and I hope to allow my children the same freedom.

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Hip-Hop QOTW:

"Yeah, where I'ma start it at, look I'ma part of that
Downtown Philly where it's realer than a heart attack
It wasn't really that ill until the start of crack
Now it's a body caught every night on the Almanac"

"Game Theory"
The Roots

scince nobody realy likes me at my school, heres what i'm looking for, a girl that would go out with me because she likes me, not because she keeps saying to me please please go out with me i realy like you, realy, when 2 minets ago i heard her talking to her friends about she was going to do that so she could she what i said for a laugh.( actuly happened to me)

Quote (Gears @ 20 Dec. 2002, 22:12)

Be careful, guys, religious discussions have a history of going sour...

Religous discussions have been okayed as long as they don't turn vulgar or hateful, or if people don't respect others' choices of religion.  But in this case, please remember that religion was brought up in the context of relationships.

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Hey, put the cellphone down for a while
In the night there is something wild
Can you hear it breathing?
And hey, put the laptop down for a while
In the night there is something wild
I feel it, it's leaving me

What I like in a girl is her morals.She has to be pro.life.She  also has to dress appropriately.A girl who has a blouse or skirt that shows off a little to much dosent really care about morals.
         I also like a girl who likes to laugh and talk.If your around a girl who is quiet and or dosent mack you embarrassed, then there not really interesting.(No affence)

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Teach me, my God and King,
In all things thee to see;
And what I do in any thing
To do it as for thee...

                   -Herbert, George-

I like girls shorter than I am, plus she has to be nice and good, unlike those wanna badass girls who always get into trouble. Also she should be smarter than me, but not stronger....that would be sorta scary  

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"Let the blood of the innocent quench my thirst for battle"

bobtheflamingmoogle
People can be really crule like that at times.But I'm shure you will find a nice girl who will like you for who you are ,not doing  it as a joke. Be hopeful

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BobtheflamingMoogle (jeez thats long)

The same thing happened to me at School. Whenever someone asks you out of the blue say no. It's one of the smartest decesions you can make. I do hope your popularity grows at school. There's no reason why people shouldn't like you.

Yeah Bob, back in the day in my early Middle School years that happened to me a couple times, and I've seen it tons of times over. I'll admit, I used to be one of the most made fun of kids back in the day. But don't let it get you down. I can barely remember those days.

When something like that happens, you have to respond with confidence in your voice and say something unexpected. Like, "Oh yeah? Well I think we both know that I'm too much of a pimp to jump to you." But it's all in how you say. Smile, and make sure they know you're not being serious(which would only lead to worse times). People don't expect it, so it just leaves them dumbfounded. Stuff like that used to seem so out of character to me, but now witty come backs come to me instantly. No one gives me crap anymore, and now I'm really popular at my school. We all know popularity isn't everything, but it helps to have people actually know who you are when you're trying to get a girlfriend (flawless slide back into topic).

Sorry if I sound preachy or whatever, btw.



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The clouds ran away, opened up the sky
And one by one I watched every constellation die
And there I was frozen, standing in my backyard
Face to face, eye to eye, staring at the last star
I should've known, walked all the way home
To find that she wasn't here, I'm still all alone

-Atmosphere "Always Coming Back Home to You"

Geeese, I'm a senior in high school and that's still hapenning to me. You should all feel lucky that it doesn't happen to you anymore...

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Stuff like that used to happen to me too, guys can be such jerks. Well girls too, admittedly. It got to the point where, when ANY guy asked me out up to grade 9 or 10, I'd immediately shoot them down thinking they were toying with me. I still don't know if they all were :-P But once you get out of high school, situations like that tend to fade away and people mature a bit. Most of them, anyway ^-^

I don't think I'd mind a girl who was stronger then me...but I guess it depends. As for quiet girls...what if she's really just quiet at first, and later once you get to know her better, you find out she can be quite talkative? You need to watch out that you're not weeding out the good people based on first impressions ^-^

I like quiet guys though. It really intrigues me for some reason if a guy is quiet, and I have to keep prodding him to get him to talk.

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Quote (Elena99 @ 5 Jan. 2003, 13:46)

Stuff like that used to happen to me too, guys can be such jerks.

Sorry about that. There are still nice guys out there in the world. All you need to do is find the best place to find them. Well Elena you don't have to worry if your engaged. An engagement ring can be called a magical ward against jerks. Trust me it is effective.

i cant go out with a girl much taller than me. you just cant look cool like that, you look like a dork. i like dark hair on a girl and kinda long. i dont like really really pale girls either, thats kinda strange.


elena, judging from your reply it sounds like you go both ways. no joke or insult intended, it just seemed that way.

and thats it.

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*shrugs* Not like I hide it or anything :-)

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You watch the world exploding every single night
Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

This topic will never die! bwahahaha

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