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Posted: 27th May 2004 13:05

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Yes. I know that much. I want to know about the specifics, though. I want to know the 'how' questions.

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Posted: 27th May 2004 19:41

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Yes. I know that much. I want to know about the specifics, though. I want to know the 'how' questions.


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Posted: 27th May 2004 21:27

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I always figured the emporer learned of the statues and the gate by taking a trip to the what was to become the floating continent. I mean, when the island is ripped from the earth, you see people having a good time then blam, they're sky high. There must be people at least visiting the place if not living there.

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Posted: 27th May 2004 21:34

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That's true. Even thought there appear to be no communities of anykind there, in the Catastrophe cutscene you see people by the cave dying from the seperation. Hmmmmm.........

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Posted: 27th May 2004 22:52

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Sherick, it's a given that in all RPG's, there are more towns and cites than you see. You just don't go to them because they're not important to the stories of the RPG. Do you REALLY think that an entire world in RPG's consists of what, 11 towns?


I wouldn't be surprised if there were other towns in Figaro's Kindgom. I'm sure Doma has cites as well.

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Posted: 27th May 2004 23:47

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Yeah, i know but, ahh never mind. Yeah, Doma and Figaro should have other towns, otherwise they're just castles.

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Posted: 28th May 2004 02:54

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Before the WoR, Darryls tomb exists, but isn't shown. wink.gif

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Posted: 28th May 2004 04:48

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I figure that's because Daryl's Tomb doesn't have any real importance in the FFVI storyline until the WoR. Likewise, there would hypothetically be other settlements within the realms of Figaro and Doma in addition to the castle towns themselves, especially in Doma's case; it's just that the only ones that are can be visited are the ones relevant to the plot.
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Posted: 28th May 2004 12:55

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Likewise, there would hypothetically be other settlements within the realms of Figaro and Doma in addition to the castle towns themselves, especially in Doma's case; it's just that the only ones that are can be visited are the ones relevant to the plot



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Posted: 28th May 2004 12:57

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The core of the empire is pretty screwed up though, they deviously used evil as their weapon..... stemming back to the assasination of Sabin and Edgars father, at that time the King of Figaro. Possibly becuase in all his power didn't want strong ties with the empire? After all, his son is their ally.

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Posted: 28th May 2004 14:03

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Edgar is more an Imperial ally out of necessity - if he doesn't swear allegiance, at least just on the surface, then they'll blow Figaro to smitherines and he'd have a heck of a time trying to help out the Returners.
My guess is that Edgar's father was a Returner sympathizer, but the Empire didn't have quite enough power at that time to smash Figaro to bits like they'd wanted. Besides, Figaro does have a marketable asset in their machinery genius. Thus, the Empire assassinates the former king, then fate plays out in that they'll only have one Figaro brother to deal with instead of two because Sabin abdicates, and that leaves them with a young, still-vulnerable King Edgar whom they can easily persuade to ally with the Empire. Edgar, however, still true to the beliefs of his father, forms a superficial alliance with the Empire in order to cover up his work with the Returners.
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Posted: 28th May 2004 15:42

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Nice observation, LadyRed. Actually, though, I think that Figaro does stand a change against the Empire, simply because of two things:


1. Their engineering knowledge. It's indicated that their machinery rivals Magitek power. I mean, look at Figaro Castle. That alone is a massive example of their might. I really believe if South Figaro wasn't betrayed by that rich guy, they could have held off that attack by the Empire.

2. Their people. Figaro is the largest kingdom on the northern lands. They have the manpower to launch a full scale attack on the Empire. Furthermore, their determination is awesome. I mean, they withstood the reign of Kefka for an entire year, constantly building and rebuilding.



I don't know why Figaro hesitated squasing the Empire the moment they suspected they were involved in the death of King Figaro. It cost them quite a bit, though.

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Posted: 28th May 2004 15:52

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Political reasons. Who knows, maybe even back then the empire was invicible compared to the rest of the world. They were the only people that could use magic, and nobody had defences agains that, not after the gate was sealed (espers used to sometimes come out and pretend to be human according to Ramuh.)

Doma got smashed, and people got frightened. Doma probably had a good reputation. Cyan sure did.

People were walking on egg shells trying not to annoy the empire, but it would only be a matter of time before everything belonged to the empire, and nobody could or wanted to stop them.

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Posted: 28th May 2004 16:31

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Posted: 6th June 2004 03:48

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This topic is going great. Anyone else want to give input?

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Posted: 6th June 2004 07:25
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Well I did a little pre-history in a fanfic of my own about the origins of the empire. Here was my take:

Okay, so the War of the Magi created this big stigma about magic and we have this period much like the dark ages. During this time, very little technilogical progress is made and magic fades into legend to the point where only rarely seen wild monsters use low grade spells. I imagine by this time, such abilities aren't even considered magic anymore except by scholars. Eventually this age is given way to the new age of science. Suddenly this new form of thinking is sweeping the world at an incredibly fast rate. New machines and technologies are being formed almost every single day. But the change is too quick and sudden and creates a widespread feeling of unease or outright fear. Anti-science sentiment begins to gain popularity as people begin accusing the new technologies as magic in disquise. Soon people begin abodoning science and technology and go back to the old ways...except for one free thinking nation.

Figaro holds on to the ways of science and technology thanks to it's royal family, and while other countries step back, Figaro moves foward to become the most powerful nation in the world expanding to include Kohlingen, Narshe and what is now known as South Figaro. Now in the beginning, Figaro's technology was based on the coal that was mined from Narse, but it was very dirty and caused environmental decay. However a new form of fuel had been discovered in the southern continent. It was oil.

Now vector was a small town whose major export was oil. It was the second largest supplier of oil in the world next to Doma, which wasn't saying much since oil wasn't really in high demand. However, it was unique in that, like the nation of Figaro, it too had not abandoned technology. However, it did not have the money and resources Figaro had, so it was not nearly as advanced, however, it was based around oil and gasoline, which turned out to be a much cleaner fuel source. When the king of Figaro discovered this, he acted quickly and allied his nation with Vector in order to secure the oil (which would be too expensive to export from the powerful nation of Doma). Vector, in return, had the protection of the most powerful nation in the world as well as access to all it's resources and more advanced technology.

Now at this point, the peoples of the world have seen the light and everyone's hauling ass to catch up to where Vector and Figaro are at, but with two thirds of the major fuel resources held by those two nations, everyone else is pretty much screwed. So by now, the king of Figaro has it pretty much in the bag...but wait! (and finally here's where the empire comes in)

Now the king of Figaro is also an engineering genius. Also Figaro as a nation is home to almost all of the best engineers in the world. As a result a lot of new technology was theorized, but never realized due to lack of a sufficient power source. This left a lot of unfinished blue prints lying around that would be stored in the royal archives. As a part of the deal resulting with the alliance with Figaro, Vector had access to these archives. It was a small side thing, a courtesy gesture more than anything else. Fairly standard assurance of trust between two nations. Nobody in Figaro had even considered that possibility that Vector would actually use the archives, let alone the unfinished blueprints and theories. And even if they did, so what? No power source on earth was capable of making these ideas realities.

So it was a complete suprise when Vector became the Empire and began to expand it's borders. It took Albrook then Tzen, both of which were allied to Doma. Doma declared war on The Empire. The Empire was allied with Figaro and demanded that they too fight with them against Doma. The King refused and was assassinated. After that, his son Edgar took the throne and held the alliance with the Empire despite the actions they had made, knowing the nation was too weak to stand against them. And so we come to the events told about in the game.

Despite it's length, there's a lot there I didn't mention due to time (it's now about 12:30 as I wrap this up).

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Fergot to mention: Ever since the Empire started going on a rampage, Figaro began rellying on an older 'steam' technology that was actually developed in Narshe as a way to power the town if the coal mines should ever dry up. Obviously they no longer wanted to relly on fossil fuels that could only be obtained through the Empire, but unfortunately, it's not an easy transition to make, nor a quick one. That was also a large factor in Edgar's decision not to break the alliance with the Empire.


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Posted: 6th June 2004 08:35

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Okay, that was brilliant. Doma will always be a weird place, if you think you can dive back in its history. There are samurai, retainers, there's a king and the whole castle just reeks of medieval. And yet there's train that supposedly belongs to them, and that's not even recently built but it's been there for quite a while.



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Posted: 6th June 2004 12:25

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I agree, pretty good job too. One thing though:

You don't need coal to run a steam engine, especially the small ones as in Narshe, just the more abundent wood. Oil is also only use in combustion engines.

It is impossible to say why the empire did what it did, however:

I think the world is just on the brink of technological evolution. They only have steam engines (which explains the train), however technology hasn't existed long enough to make it to the further reaches of the smaller towns. There just wasn't a need for technology there.

But as primative as the world is, they have debilatators, the IAF (Imperial Air Force) --> helicopters, gunpowder (which isn't really ever seen), etc.

The world could actually be compared to the British colonization of the orient.

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Posted: 6th June 2004 13:32

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Narratorway, I rather like your take on things. Where can I find the fanfic you wrote on the subject? I'd like to read it.

Djibriel, the way I see Doma is sort of like a Japanified/Medievalized version of the later Qing period in China (in that there are samurai and retainers and the Qing Empire definitely didn't have samurai). Their general attitude towards Western technology was that it obviously worked better than whatever they had, but they couldn't spring in and take advantage of it because a) that meant radical change, which was a big no-no - if any change was to be made to society, it had to be made within tradition (if our ancestors would be okay with this change, then we're okay with it too), and b) it was technology from the West, and the West brought them opium, and therefore the West was evil. So what they did was to take Western technology and ideas and use it not to become like the West, but to better themselves and stand up to the West. Unfortunately, that backfired in a huge, huge way.
In the same way, Doma could have taken from Vector's technological ideas in the form of a railway system because it would have eased trade and transport and such, but refused to touch anything else because "technology is from Vector and Vector is evil".
Now that I think about it, Qing China had a railway too. But they tore it up because the villagers were complaining that it interfered with the feng shui.

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SMB, I think you might wanna take another look at what I posted. I said they relied on steam technology as an alternative to coal. However, you did gimmie a good lil side story to think up about another reason they wouldn't use coal.

Aside from the fact that 1) it's their main source of income, so the more than can sell rather than use, the better there's also 2) the moogles in their caves to figure on. Chances are the pollution caused a problem in the relationship between the town and the moutains true natives. I figure 'accidents' and other assorted mischief was caused until the people got the message and stuck to merely selling coal.

Secondly, yes oil is used for combustion engines, which I imagine is what Figaro was using at the time. Just look at the big ass engine in the basement.

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Posted: 27th June 2004 18:22

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Posted: 28th June 2004 17:13

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I love the storyline behind the Empire, but even more so is the story of the rebels and Bannon. I love a good underdog fight. Any time you can see some huge force like the Empire go down in flames to a few dedicated people.... you gotta love that.



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Just as an aside on Magitek infusion... I know with Celes they infused her right after birth, but would that have been standard procedure, do you think? Could differences in infusion techniques or age of infusion have any affect on the subject's magical power (i.e. Celes when Locke finds her compared to Gestahl and Kefka)?

Kefka is the first to be infused with magical energy. However, the process was unstable, and Kefka becomes a madman. Cid later develops a more stable process used to create Magitek Knights like Celes. (However, the process is less powerful than the one used on Kefka.)

This is my timeline. Most of it is speculative, since there is little information in the game about the period between the War of the Magi and the present.

THE WAR OF THE MAGI

The three Goddesses wage war. Some unfortunate humans who are caught in the middle are transformed into Espers by the tremendous magical energy of the Goddesses. In a moment of clarity, the Goddesses seal themselves (and their magic) into huge stone statues, located in the heart of Crescent Island. The Goddesses request that the Espers keep watch over these statues.

1,000 years ago: The Espers create their own world and seal themselves within it out of fear of persecution by power-hungry humans. The Mage Warriors (humans infused with magical energy) found the village of Thama (later called Thamasa) and vow to live in isolation from the rest of mankind, who would persecute them. Thus ends the War of the Magi.

In the centuries that follow, magic is nearly forgotten. Magic, Espers, and the War of the Magi become myths. Human society experiences the Dark Ages, characterized by petty conflicts between feudal states.

War-weary kingdoms form a peaceful alliance. The Kingdom of Vector is founded, and it emerges as the peacekeeping force. At some point Vector’s authority as the peacekeeper is challenged. Vector withdraws from the alliance and becomes a militaristic state.

About 200 years ago, the steam power is discovered. By this time, the alliance has broken up. The technologically advanced Kingdom of Figaro is founded. Doma refuses to industrialize, preferring to remain a feudal kingdom.

A huge deposit of coal is found in the northern mountains, and the town of Narshe is founded there. Due to a near-monopoly of the supply of coal, Narshe becomes a town of huge importance, exporting coal all over the world. Its citizens agree to a position of neutrality.

Within the last century, Figaro has grown increasingly dependent on technology. Figaro Castle is built with huge turbines that allow it to travel beneath the desert sands.

Vector has become tremendously powerful during this time and is now known as the Empire. 20 years ago, Gestahl ascends the throne.

17 years ago: Gestahl discovers the location of the Espers’ Sealed Gate. He invades the Esper World and captures several Espers before the Esper Elder manages to re-seal the gate. Madonna and Terra are thrown out of the Espers’ World. Maduin follows them but dies in the attempt to rescue them. The dying Madonna begs Gestahl to take care of her baby. Gestahl brings Terra and the corpse of Maduin back to Vector.

The Magitek Research Facility is founded, and Cid is put in charge. Kefka rises in rank. Leo is promoted to the rank of General.

16 years ago: Cid builds the first prototypes of Magitek armor. Kefka is infused with magic, but the primitive process results in permanent brain damage, and as a result, Kefka loses the last shred of his sanity. Later that year, Cid develops a more stable (but less powerful) process and infuses the infant Celes with magic. The honorable General Leo refuses a Magitek infusion.

15 years ago: the Empire occupies the strategic port of Albrook.

10 years ago: the Empire builds a base on the Western side of the bridge to Crescent Island, where the Sealed Gate is located.

7 years ago: the Empire poisons the King of Figaro. On his deathbed, the King declares that Edgar and Sabin be his successors to the throne. Both Edgar and Sabin express a desire to leave, but Edgar decides to settle the issue with the toss of a coin. Knowing Sabin’s deep desire to leave, Edgar ensures that Sabin will win with a two-headed coin. Sabin leaves Figaro to train in martial arts under Duncan.

5 years ago: Banon founds the Returners. Figaro and Doma begin to collaborate in secret with the Returners.

3 years ago: the Empire discovers that Doma has been collaborating with the Returners, and skirmishes begin between the feudal Doma and the modern Empire.

2 years ago: the Empire occupies Tzen.

1 year ago: The newly promoted General Celes leads imperial forces in an invasion of Maranda.

Less than 1 year ago: the Empire builds a base near Doma and is poised to attack.

Terra begins to express disapproval of the Empire. Because she is more powerful than even Kefka, Gestahl decides that he can’t risk having her as an enemy. Kefka places a Slave Crown on Terra’s head that robs her of conscious thought.

Present: The Empire sends Terra, Vicks, and Wedge to investigate rumors of a frozen Esper’s being found in the mines of Narshe.

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I once heard somewhere (can't remember where) That the Chere family was a dynasty in Vector before Gestahl who supposedly killed Emperor Chere, making Celes a relative of the dead ruler. Why would Gestahl and the rest of the Empire let a relative of the Chere line live? Also I remember a villager in Tzen saying that "The empire slaughtered all of her royal family members", could this be a reference to the Chere line?

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I don't remember any of that. Honestly.

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Posted: 29th June 2004 04:16

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I once heard somewhere (can't remember where) That the Chere family was a dynasty in Vector before Gestahl who supposedly killed Emperor Chere, making Celes a relative of the dead ruler. Why would Gestahl and the rest of the Empire let a relative of the Chere line live? Also I remember a villager in Tzen saying that "The empire slaughtered all of her royal family members", could this be a reference to the Chere line?

You must have heard that in fanfic or something, because that’s not in the game anywhere.

The villager’s statement is a reference to the imperial occupation of Tzen. (The Empire murdered the royal family of Tzen.)

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Posted: 29th June 2004 23:00

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The more I think about it, the more your explanation makes sense, yes it must have been a fanfic sorry for wasting space and time by mentioning that.


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Posted: 30th June 2004 22:31

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No worries! ANY input relative to the topic is welcome!

(Pdit: This may sound sappy, but it's great to find a nice focum who loves the old school FF as much as I do. I like it here. I really do.)

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Here is something I found odd about the empire before the WoR:

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I noticed that after I came off the floating continent, all of the empire was missing. Not a soul in Vector. All traces of the empire had disappeared. Well, save the derelict magitek suit in South Figaro.

Also, you can tell from talking to the guards that you can't trust Gestahl: the magitek armour was getting refurbished even though the factory was being taken down.... funny that you do not need a factory to extract magic from the magicite form of an esper anyway! Now wasn't that convenient!!


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That's because the bigger problems in the world are starting to make the Empire slowly lose it's grip. Also, a vast majority of it's army are on/near the Floating Continent. The others are dead, or they just went home. Even soldiers of a totalarian empire have homes and families to go back to.

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