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What has enix done since the merger to help make square better? I don't know. I am starting to wonder if Enix joined with square just to get in on the Final Fantasy credit? I don't know if any one has anything to say, please tell me.

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ENIX Helped make ff 11. The game is sweet. However it also made X-2. So i cant really say how i feel about it yet. Other

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Square is still doing the same ol' square thing, whether they're called squenix skwak box or whatever.

X2 was great in my opinion.

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Get me off this Disciplinary Committee so I can play any FF except for FF8!!!

I'll judge when FFXII comes out.

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Can't really say either. They did re-release FF Anthologies and Chronicles and I consider that a good thing, but really didn't like how they made FFXI online since I don't have DSL so I do hate them for that. Never played X-2. So I guess I'll judge when FFXII comes out.

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"Ye better start believing in ghost stories; you're in one!" -Captain Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl)

You dont need dsl to play 11 online. Just a real good graphics card.lThat was nice. In case Your Modem Goes down and you have to use dial up

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If you've been mod-o-fied,
It's an illusion, and you're in-between.
Don't you be tarot-fied,
It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean?
~Frank Zappa

Sins exist only for people who are on the Way or approaching the Way

i think its too early to tell. X-2, Crystal Chronicals, and 11 are all awsome. But they could still screw up down the road.

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Well, the only SquareEnix (as opposed to SquareSoft) game I've played is Sword of Mana, and it is a pretty fun game. As far as I can see, Enix is just kinda 50-50 on making Square better or worse. Other.

This post has been edited by Figaro on 9th March 2004 22:46

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Wow. 1,000 posts.

I miss you all now that I'm in boarding school! ;_;

Did you all See the New Square Enix Game Coming Out? DrakenGard. Ive got goose bumps it looks awesome! Im still other.

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If you've been mod-o-fied,
It's an illusion, and you're in-between.
Don't you be tarot-fied,
It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean?
~Frank Zappa

Sins exist only for people who are on the Way or approaching the Way

I didn't think that Enix really did all that much for Square...I mean when you look at FFIX and below and then look at FFX and X-2...they just don't compare...maybe I would think different if I had FFXI but I don't so I don't like Enix.

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As far as I can tell, (and i could be wrong) Enix has brought Square to an all time low, since they merged it seems Square has put ALL of its effort into graphics, which, dont get me wrong, is fine but not when the storyline and characters totally suck! The last few FF definatly need improvements if they hope to have a spark with new RPGer's.

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Mario: "It's coin, what the hell does it look like?"
Link: "Well.... What do you do with it?"
Mario: "You buy lives with them."
Link: ".... Isn't that slavery?"
~Mario/Link crossover comic~

I agree with Strife543...sort of. I'm not sure that it's Enix's fault that Square has lost its focus. I'd like to see the Enix-driven games before I make a judgement. The screenshots for Dragon Quest 8 look incredible.

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"A true classic never goes out of style!"

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain..."

Enix is/was the stronger of the two companies. The Dragon Quest series is much more popular in Japan than the Final Fantasy series is. It was Enix that purchased Square, not the other way around.

Square has been focused on graphics for quite sometime. They probably had the edge lately in game presentation, but Enix games have been (at least the ones that I have played) much stronger gameplay-wise (I'm talking of RPGs at the moment right now, of course). It'd take the gameplay of Star Ocean 2 over any of the Final Fantasy titles' gameplay. It a shame that the U.S. division of Enix wasn't as strong as the Square U.S.A. That is probably one of the reasons Enix purchased Square: to strengthen their U.S. distrubution.

This post has been edited by SSJ_Cloud on 8th April 2004 00:56

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I said other, I do not think that Square has been downhill since the Enix deal. The only complaint I have is FFXI since it is too expenisive for the game and subscribition plus I do not think online rpg gameplay is very fun.

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Quote (SSJ_Cloud @ 7th April 2004 19:52)

Square has been focused on graphics for quite sometime. They probably had the edge lately in game presentation, but Enix games have been (at least the ones that I have played) much stronger gameplay-wise (I'm talking of RPGs at the moment right now, of course). It'd take the gameplay of Star Ocean 2 over any of the Final Fantasy titles' gameplay. It a shame that the U.S. division of Enix wasn't as strong as the Square U.S.A. That is probably one of the reasons Enix purchased Square: to strengthen their U.S. distrubution.

in most ways i agree with you... but, and i mean no offense in saying this, in my opinion there was way too much storyline in star ocean (from what i've playing in it, eventually i had to give up because it took to long between save points)

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I don't care 4 Enix, but I didn't like the idea of Square working w/ exix.

I think Enix just almost completly destroyed the proud name of Square.

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We'll have to wait and see. Maybe Enix will improve in a few years. FF X-2 had a very boring storyline.

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I miss the good old times when I loaded up my games and it said SquareSoft . IMO, it's become a lot worse cause of the merger. But that may soon change. I'm really looking forward to the new Star Ocean game and Suikoden IV. Those two games would change my entire outlook on SquareEnix and I would consider them to be a great company instead of a decent one.

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I must say i have to retract my statment. I just played Drakenguard, while the storyline is lacking the game is just fun. From riding around on the red dragon to slashing people up with your sword or smashing them in with a hammer it was a great game. Therefore I retract my statement for now... I'm still not too keen on the whole SquareEnix thing. My greatest shifting benifacter will probably be ffXII.

Although I loved the basic squaresoft I guess i'll wait and see what role Enix plays in the making of what looks like the new rpg/adventure game dominator.

As for ffXI I didn't care for it and got bored after several hours. I would rather just go on the internet and play a free game called runescape which is the exact same thing other than the worse graphics.

This post has been edited by Dark_Kain_24 on 1st May 2004 08:14

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Been a devoted Square/SquareSoft fan for a long time. But, as mentioned, Squaresoft lost it's focus. FFX was absolutely beautiful, but goddamn... I felt like I was watching the game more than freaking playing it. I've played a few Enix (Dragon Quest, Ogre Battle) prior to them becoming as well-known to the U.S., and I admit that Enix seemed to have more innovation than Square. Hopefully, Enix can use Square's good name, mind-blasting graphics, and, of course, Nobuo Uematsu to produce games that appeal to me more than Square's recent games.

Royal has a very good point, I simply loved Ogre Battle.

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"I must not fear, fear is the mind-killer."
Bene Gesserit Litany

"You will beg for death before the end!"
Boromir of Gondor

Name a bad Enix game, then argue it taints Square.

Add Actraiser to the list of innovative Enix games. I wonder if the merger will result in some games in different genres, Einhander was incredible, I'd love to see a few Squeenix action games.

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Sabin: ... to Mom... and to Figaro.

"A true classic never goes out of style!"

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain..."

I like the new blend. I think that Square and enix really go together well,, especially since both companies have games related t o Akira Toriyama. CT, and DW.

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