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Alrighty, first off, I'm new, so I know I'm low on the pecking order, and figure I'll start things off with a simple "Hello everyone" and "I have arrived."

Anyway, I'm replaying Final Fantasy VI on the PSX because I recently went psycho and decided to play every FF game from I all the way down (even the ones I've aced a few times). Upon playing FFVI again, I guess I realize why I loved my Super NES.

Problem being when I was younger, I heard rumor of the alternate endings, but didn't dare use another 60+ hours of my life to attempt to finish this game using only Celes, Edgar, and Setzer. Anyway, has anyone actually done this? I also heard that it's possible to alter Relm's ending as well, but is it really a significant change which merits going through the hell of braving Kefka's tower with only three, maybe four party members?

If anyone has screens/gamescript/an easier way to see this "alternate ending" I'd appreciate it. Yeah, I know I'm lazy, but the Goddess Statues and Kefka frighten me (with that small of a friggin' party at least)

First up, welcome to the site, and belive me when i say this: there is no real pecking order here.

Second:Im fairly sure that theres no alternative endings, unless you count

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Additional scenes added for Gogo and Shadow (-if you saved him at the floating continent-). Right now, i can't remember if theres anything for Umaro

Im sure someone else will know more about this, as i've only ever finished it twice doing the same things more or less.

This post has been edited by Del S on 27th March 2004 11:25

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hmmm ive finished the game 3 times and no new endings, HOWEVER one idea of an alternate relm ending possibly is get relm not strago (as in dont take her to fanatics tower) and finish the game that way.


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Well technically there's probably over a hundred different endings if you count all the possibilities of character combinations you can have while completing the game. It's all basically the same ending with certain parts missed when certain characters are absent along with a couple of minor changes when you don't have Sabin or Locke.

Welcome Jason.

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I've made a rapid calcul, and there are 768 different endings (when you count each presence or absence).

Terra x1
Cyan x2
Shadow x2
Edgar and Sabin x2
Celes and Locke x2
Strago and Relm x3 (Relm without Strago, Relm and Strago, neither Relm nor Strago)
Setzer x1
Gau x2
Mog x2
Gogo x2
Umaro x2

Unless I've made a miscalculation, that does 768.


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one idea of an alternate relm ending possibly is get relm not strago...

Yes, actually that's what I was hearing; what I heard was that being that Edgar, Celes, and Setzer were the only necessary characters, and also being that you don't need to get Strago if you have Relm, that their ending sequences do change - for example:

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Celes is saved by Locke in her ending. This can't happen if he's not in the final party. Same with Sabin saving Edgar. Relm has a conversation with Strago.

I've had confirmation that completion with C.E.S. (some FAQS refer to this as the Celes-Edgar-Setzer challenge) merits an altered ending, but I still don't know a soul who's crazy enough to brave Kefka's Tower that way.

I also have read the rumour regardig a special ending with Celes, Edgar & Setzer on another website, but I cant for the life of me remember which one it was!

I think the floor is open for someone to try this out (may need to hack though as Kefkas Tower will be extremely difficult).

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I've already past the game with only C-E-S without hacking (I fought on the Floating Continent until they were lvl 99, it took me 60+ hours to do this,i know, i'm a freak) but they didn't have a special ending. The guy who've invented this rumor didn't expect that someone would took 60 hours to know if it's true. When Kefka died, Terra came out and the ending was as normal as usual.

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Goonies, if that's the case:

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What happens in the paired parts of the endings? I mean, Sabin, Locke, and Strago aren't parts of the team, do they just show up to make the ending sequences normal, or do Celes, Edgar, and Relm do things differently?

I think that's what makes the "rumor" sound possible, although the ending score music sort of insists all 14 characters are in the end in some way.

I'll tell you. But warning, these are REAL SPOILERS. It was so fun when I first discover by myself that I don't want you to spoil the fun.

For Sabin,

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The metal bar falls on Edgar but Celes and Setzer succeed to retain it. They throw it the hole and Egdar says: "Where is my bro when you need him?" or something like that.

For Locke,

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Instead of Locke saving Celes, we see Setzer saving Celes and he says something like: "Remember, you promised to be my Maria"

For Strago,

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I don't remeber well of this one. We see Relm having difficulty to advance. Celes, Edgar and Setzer run and don't take care of Relm. She gets mad and she says something about painting their portrait.

But I repeat, there is no special ending with C-E-S. You can do it (with some hacking or not) and see by yourself. Or you can just see the dialogs in the Yousei's editor. 768 endings and no one more, that what I say. But, if you have an undisproofable proof (does that word exist?!? anyway, you understood me) that there's an alternate ending, please show me.

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Thanks Goonies, that answers my question about the alternates. I assume that if you don't have a character the are represented by a portrait over a black-and-white area a-la Shadow?

In fact, Strago has his own presentation. If you don't have him,

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you'll see his face on a black-and-white Thamasa background. It's the only character that appears in another presentation (except for C-E-S and Relm, who appears in Strago's one).

But, for Sabin and Locke, you have reason, if you don't have them, you won't have any black-and-white background for them. Sorry if I didn't specify this earlier.

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Forgive me if I'm repeating something here, but I have finished a CES game. Albeit it was using Game Genie codes to start with uber equipment, but I saw the ending nonetheless.

Goonies is right in his explanations of the alternate endings for the specific characters. As for the characters you don't get,

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it shows their face in the upper right (maybe left?) and in the background is their area (Doma for Cyan, Zone Eater for Gogo, Narshe for Umaro, etc.).

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In response to sbq's spoiler:

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I don't think Gogo would get a Zone Eater background...I think s/he wouldn't get any time in the ending, since s/he's a secret character and has no part in the game unless you obtain him/her.

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I have finished a CES legally, and with an average party level of 48-1/3. Setzer got the kill in two rounds of Quick - Fixed Dice - Offering, whereas the other two became Calmness food. Celes could have done it in two with five Flares per turn, but I didn't have an Economizer. Back on topic, Gogo does indeed get a zone eater background. Goonies and sbq are correct about the Sabin, Locke, and black and white scenarios, but I never cleared with Relm without Strago, so I can't verify that one.

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If by Zone Eater, sbq92 meant Gogo's cave (or whatever its name is), he was right. Don't forget that in the ending, the music must match with the character's presentation. Each presentation of characters that you didn't get (except for Sabin and Locke) shows the face of the character in the left of the screen and a black-and-white background of his hometown/cave/castle.

I played FFVI for at least 1000 hours (no kidding), and my favorite moment in the game is the ending. This is why I seem to attach so much importance to this.

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I began to write this before The Celestial wrote his reply.

This post has been edited by Goonies on 29th March 2004 01:41

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Yeah, the main thing I was questioning was if that scene even happened if you didn't get Gogo. Thanks for clarifying.

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In the night there is something wild
Can you hear it breathing?
And hey, put the laptop down for a while
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I feel it, it's leaving me

My guess as to why

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Gogo and Umaro are shown in the ending even if you haven't found them

is that they are supposed to be hidden/secret characters. If you play through the game on your own(no faqs, etc.) for the very first time, you may not find them. So when you

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finish the game and see their faces

you'll be like, "Hey! I don't remember seeing them!" Then you'll go look for them.

It's sort of an in-game hint that there are more characters than you think, and it adds a bit of replay value to the game.

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