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Here's a theory I had long ago, regarding Siegfried's plot...

It's probably pretty farfetched, but there are some connections between he and Baram, from Shadow's dream sequences.

For starters, your initial encounter with Siegfried is on the Phantom Train, where Sieg steals a treasure for no reason other than to annoy you.

Baram and Clyde were train-robbers. We know that Baram decided the two needed new names and renamed Clyde "Shadow." We're never told what Baram's name was changed to.

Secondly, Clyde never killed Baram, whom says "Think of what they would do to me if they caught me!" We can assume that since Baram was never killed "They" got him, and he didn't die after all. Perhaps like Shadow, the ordeal has changed him into someone, something else.

You only truly cross paths with Siegfried a few other times, one being in South Figaro Cave, and once more in the Colliseum. He runs off when you catch him near a treasure chest. What could he be looking for? Maybe it's the Striker, which for some reason Shadow is also after (I assume this was the knife which he was supposed to use to kill Baram).

Anyway, I'm sure there are holes in it, but the underlying fact is despite any assumptions, the game never told us Baram died, and never fully explained Siegfried, of course, I won't push the idea I have too far, as it might reach "Daryl is Gogo" levels of absurd.

Interesting, really interesting! Ii's much more believable that any Gogo is Whoever theory. But you have to include the fact that there's two Siegfried (the real in the coliseum and some weak impersonator that you encounter in the train). Someone can help?

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Fake Siegfried=Gogo
Real Siegfried=Baram

Maybe? That would kill the train connection I suppose, unless at one point the real Siegfried was on the Phantom Train. Maybe he did die and come back from the dead on this train somehow? Eh, just a thought... a wild stretch. Well at any rate that's the best theory I've seen for the identification of Siegfried. It's sure to cause some commotion around here, hopefully not to the extent of "Daryl is Gogo" like you said... though in my opinion it is a better theory.

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Oh, another thing, is that some may say "Well Shadow and Siegfried don't interact!" While this is true, neither man has likely seen each other since changing identities and as such have "become strangers."

I like this theory a lot! Altho I think train Seigfried and Colluseum Seigfried are the same guy. You SHOULD still have Shadow with you on the train (it is possible for him to leave sooner) and maby Baram saw how Shadow fought/composed himslef just like Clyde did so he held back. Or perhaps Baram got weaker over time because he was running and not fighting/robing so his skills atrophied and then when he met everybody on the train he began to train himslef some more to become stronger. When you meet him in the South Figaro caves he says "This area is full of monsters, let me clear them out" or "let me go ahead" implying that he has improved enough to defeat the whole cave of monsters (those Dante's were fairly powerful) so he became stronger and then you meet him at the collaseum and he is at the peak of his power!

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Very intriguing... The only problem with the theory is that the real Sieg probably wasn't on the Phantom Train, although we don't know for sure if that's true. Ultros mentions that Siegfried was going to be jealous by his discovery of the statues, I wouldn't be surprised if Baram went out searching for that kind of power.

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I really like this theory a lot. The train robbing thing seems like a huge clue that the developers would drop, and even though the Sigfried/Zigfried complicates it a bit, I still think it's completely feasible.

Also, does anyone know if it was Siggy or Ziggy at the cave that leads to Figaro Castle in the WoR? Or are we just left to speculate?

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SIGFRIED: Pretty dangerous from here on. I'll go in first and clear out all the monsters. Wait here.

-From FFVI, in the South Figaro Cave in the WOR

I think that this answer the question. I used the Yousei editor and it was the dialog #094B.

And when you encounter him in the coliseum, he says

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SIGFRIED: Someone's been pretending to be me!
Don't be fooled!

-Dialog #097F

Then, they are the same Sigfried. The fake is the one in the train.

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Of course, in the whole Siegfried/Sigfried/Ziegfried thing, I don't know if it's a red herring or not. Remember, there are a few inconsistencies in the game, such as you're told there are TWO AtmaWeapons - one is a sword, and one is a monster. If you have one AtmaWeapon (Sword) but then you kill AtmaWeapon on the floating continent, only to find Atma again in Kefka's tower, that's three (you can steal one from the Final Boss of Pillars, but I don't think it's fair to count that one as existent in the world).

I think this is a rather believable theory, but I think I ought to clear up some questions:

1. I think there was always a powerful independent fighter named Siegfried. The thing is that--assuming this theory to be true--Baram decided to be like Siegfried, and possibly impersonate him, but mispronounced/misspelled his name, and needs LOTS of training before getting that good at fighting. That's why Ziegfried on the train is a wuss, but Siegfried in the Colosseum is almost impossible to beat.
2. When Ultros spoke about Siegfried, he probably meant Ziegfried (but was too stupid to tell the difference <-- not at all surprising), since, given that Baram is Ziegfried, he would still have some kind of "robber" mentality to him, and he may have heard about the golden statues and wanted to rob them and talked to Ultros about it.

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