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Posted: 27th January 2004 19:42

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Ok, these are teh steps to get cloud, right:
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1. Buy a flower from the flower girl in Zarghidas Trade City.
2. Go to Goug Machine City, a scene will occur between Besrodio, Mustadio and Ramza.
3. Go to Goland Coal City, go into the bar and listen to the " Ghost of Colliery " rumor.
4. Go to Lesalia Capital City, you'll meet Beowulf here, say " yes " so he joins you.
5. Go back to Goland Coal City and complete the 4 consecutive battles.
6. Once you succeed in saving Reis from Sinogue and Co., you'll get a new stone, and Beowulf and Reis ( Dragon ) will join. You must accept them, or you cannot get Cloud.
7. Return to Goug Machine City , you'll get Worker-8 after a funny scene.
8. Now you must go to Zeltennia Castle, go into the bar and listen to "Cursed Island" rumor.
9. Go to the Nelveska Temple, north of Zeltennia Castle, defeat Worker 7 New to get another stone plus Reis will be reverted to human form here. She re-joins as a Dragonner, accept her or no Cloud for you.
10. Return once more to Goug Machine City, the latest stone will activate a machine which summons Cloud. He runs off. Follow him, to where ????
11. Go back to Zarghidas Trade City, here you'll have to save Cloud from a bunch of theives. Win it and Cloud joins.


I am having trouble with step #11...I go to Zarghidas and there's no battle - all that happens is that you can press O and shop, do prepositions,go to the bar, etc.
I have triple checked all the steps and I did everything correctly but I can's figuer out what's wring here.....

Help is appreciated,
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Posted: 27th January 2004 20:59

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You're doing everything right, but what chapter are you in? If you're in 3 or below, forget it. You must be Ch. 4. I'm positive you know that, though. Get back to me, I'll be glad to help ya! thumbup.gif

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Posted: 28th January 2004 00:44

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I a m in chapeter 4 in teh place where you fight Celi and Lede and again at teh gate of Limberry Castle..
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Posted: 28th January 2004 01:09

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I dunno man. Looks to me like you've done everything right. Try and beat the Lede/Celi duel, then see what happens. If all else fails...skip Cloud. pinch.gif

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Posted: 28th January 2004 02:08

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what you have to do is beat the assasins and eldmor and then get melioudel and then clear igros castle after igros castle you can go to get cloud

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Posted: 28th January 2004 11:09

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To be able to activate the Zarghidas event, the red spot (showing where the next story battle will take place) must be at Orbonne Monastery, wich is after Igros Castle and Murond story battles.
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Posted: 30th January 2004 04:47

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mr thou thats what i said

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Posted: 31st January 2004 01:16

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Oh no, by the time I came back and read this post, I got rid of all the secret characters becasue I couldnt get Cloud...sad.gif
Maybe next tiem I start A new game I'll try and get him all over again sad.gif
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Posted: 31st January 2004 17:42

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Dude, that sucks major. You could always use a Game Shark if you have one.

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Posted: 31st January 2004 19:46

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I had one but now I cant find the CD..but I still have the actual "shark" thingy
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Posted: 1st February 2004 05:59

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I have gotten Cloud once and it is not worth it. He is at a sickening low level and you have to get his sword at a certain level to get him to his top potential. The only reason to get him is the entertaining scene when he shows up or just to say you got him, otherwise he is pointless, unless you invest alot of hours to get him strong but lets face it once you get Orlando who needs anyone else?

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Posted: 2nd February 2004 23:40

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Quote (BGrugby @ 1st February 2004 00:59)
I have gotten Cloud once and it is not worth it.

but lets face it once you get Orlando who needs anyone else?

Yes, I know that Cloud is a bad fighter but I want to get him just for the sake of having him. The first time I got Orlandu, I was amazed at his skill....but know, as my second time playing this game, I got him I got rid of him because it's not fair that you have this super-strong character + your own strong characters while the enemy only has Chocobos running around healing each other and little weak gobline using Knife Hand and Eye Gouge on you
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 00:13

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Sure Orlandu is really strong but once you get up into higher levels those random battles get harder and harder becuase the moster are the same level you are and they even kill orlandu (not very likely). Even those Chocobos running around healing each other turn into killing machines when they got meteor.

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Posted: 3rd February 2004 01:19

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I agree with you, RacistAginstChocobos, but its too late, I got rid of him after I got him so sorrry
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 03:16

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one more thing anytime anyone posts about cloud they say he is at extremely low level... is level one extremely low??? no its like starting level so call it that cause i thought he was gonna be level 20 for me thats low at this point level one is like a nobody. and another thing did anyone actually level him up because i am about level 80 and i dont feel like leveling up cloud, it would be easier if i could give him skillz like move get xp and xp up but thats a calculator so i wont get it in a while with him. Any ideas?

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Posted: 3rd February 2004 18:49

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If your Ramza is level 80, then it's fairly easy to level up Cloud. Equip Ramza with Speed Save as a reaction ability, and hit him with Cloud for a whoping 99 exp points (or some like that). Ramza's speed will rise almost every turn (especially if you use Scream at the beggining of the battle, to make his Brave go to 100). Then, perform Yell on Cloud at every turn Ramza gets, and don't forget to cure him once in a while; let the other party members deal with the foes any way you like it.
This way, every other turn he gets, Cloud will go up 1 level. If you want make this routine more efficient (and you'll want to at some point, when Cloud will begin getting a level every 3 turns, and then every 4 turns...), change Cloud as a Thief. Make him learn Steal Exp, and perform it on Ramza with the same routine. Don't forget to bring someone to hurt Ramza, so that his speed won't be outmatched by Cloud's.
And of course, at the later part, try to learn Get Exp Up and Move Get Exp.
Good luck.

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Posted: 4th February 2004 00:20

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i dont understand is it because ramza is a higher level that Cloud will get more exp? or is it because of the speed normally how i level up is i go to a level with water and try to get some panthers in it and then i yell with ramza at the person i want to level up and then with them i accumalate with them until i learn that job in one battle thats how one of mine generic character has like 6 or 7 mastered job its a good way to level up people this way since they almost all have accumulate but thas where i get into trouble. With all the cool characters they have instead of squire as basic job engineer or holy knight. so i cant accumulate. is there any other technique that is free and has 100 percent of succeeding i know still xp is good from the thief but the problem is that it doesnt always work on my super high leveled up characters. i cant think of any abilities well chakra but they have to be hurt to do that i dont know ill figure out something.

Mr. Thou how can i level up Mustido because i hate when some characters are higher levels than other. (i didnt have any trouble leveling up Orlandu) i like reis she is a high level but learning all her abilities is a pain. and now i have to get a dragon and Beowulf was a breeze as well.

help me out plz (maybe i should start my own topic called help me out) come one mr thou

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Posted: 4th February 2004 02:25

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Quote (RacistAgainstChocobos @ 3rd February 2004 17:20)
i dont understand is it because ramza is a higher level that Cloud will get more exp?

That's exactly it. The larger the gap between the attacker and the person being attacked, the more experience the attacker will get. Unfortunately, that doesn't apply to JP smile.gif The speed technique suggested is so that Ramza and Cloud will get the most turns in battle, making it faster for Cloud to level up.

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Posted: 4th February 2004 22:26

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A quick reply, on how to gain JP for special character.
First, as Neal said, the gap between character levels doesn't influence the number of JP gained. However, the Level and the Job level are important : a Level 1 character as a Thief 1 (this is the Job level, going from 1 to 8) will gain less JP with an action than a Level 50 Thief 1, and a Level 20 character Thief 1 will gain less JP than a Level 20 Thief 7. The maximum JP gainable with a single action is 70, with a Level 99 Job 8, with Gain JP Up equiped...sadly, when you reach this point, it's almost useless, except for mastering jobs.
Anyway, there is specific actions you can take to gain JP easily : Chakra is an excellent choice for anyone. With Orlandu, try to learn Dark Sword ASAP, and use it on the person who is using Chakra : this character will regain some MP, allowing for Orlandu to use Dark Sword again, and so on...
As for Mustadio, I wouldn't know, since I don't use him often. My best guess would be to use the Chakra Cross : one character with chakra, with four character around him that keeps pounding on each other or the Chakra caster with weak attacks (unequip their weapon if you want). It works wonder, at any stage of the game.
One other solution, though risky, is the solo autoplay evolution : basically, you go into a battle with one character, make him impervious to the opponents he's facing (choose an area with monsters who can only use physical attacks, and equip your character with Blade Grasp and a high Brave), wipe away most of the ennemies, and then put your character in Auto Battle, set on Protecting Allies. Then, he wil run around, casting on himself any support abilities he has access to (Accumulate comes to mind, and the samourai's Kiyomori, with a shitload of katanas in stock just in case). After that, all you have to do is go take a nice shower, come back later and voilà : loads of Exp and JP.
Finally, there's cheating : you can use the JP trick to master any jobs with more than one page of abilities...but that's plain cheat, and I won't explain it here, unless there's a call for it.

It was a lengthy post, but I hope it helps you out happy.gif

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Posted: 5th February 2004 00:41

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Wow i <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=love&v=55">love</a> this <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=website&v=55">website</a> great help, thanks to you all i leveled up could 28 levels in one battle i though it was pretty funny and i know that the higher level you are the more jp you gain. The first thing i taught cloud was cherry blossom 1200 jp didnt even have enough for jp up even though i knew i should have got it. Well thx ill go play it now

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Posted: 6th February 2004 16:47

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----------------------------UPDATED INFO ON CLOUD!!------------------------------------

Ok, i am writing this 30 minutes prior to when I got cloud. I had gotten rid of all teh secret people I needed to get him, right? Well today i was traning and wasn't at all thinking about geting Cloud because I knew how to get him when I start a new game. So today I was playing and went to Zarghidas Trade City adn just got into a battle, and to my shock, I had gotten cloud! Correct me if i am wrong but I think this is a glitch....getting cloud AFTER you get rid of the secret people is I think a glitch. Wow i am so happy i can barely type. Of course now the task of getting him up from level 1 to atound 52-56 like how my people are
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Posted: 10th February 2004 05:54

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just a quick update with you all help i got cloud to master soldier and to get to level 70 in 2 easy battles. Here's how i did it if you are intrested... i yelled at him power braked him took his weapon off so he did only one damage then he hit the person in my party with the highest level. The enemies just kill all but one preferable a dragon or panther so you can hide in water, and speed brake the last monster so you can go like a billion times before he does.

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Posted: 11th February 2004 01:24

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WOW! I've gotten in about 18 batles with Cloud adn he's only on level 52! I tried what mr thou said and it works but it gets extremely BORING after a couple of minutes, no offense to you, mr thou biggrin.gif. oh and racist i'll try what you said and see what happens
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Posted: 13th February 2004 13:45

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Cloud is not bad at all.

Make his Magic Attack high, give him his materia blade and the support ability Short Charge

Also, give him a secondary ability as Draw out.

Whenever there's a really tough monster, just use Finishing Touch. If a monster's life bar is half, then use climbhazzard. If monsters are lined up or far away use the "kijikikomochi" or however you spell it smile.gif.

With around 15-16 MA, Cloud is pretty great.
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Posted: 7th March 2004 20:20

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well, I'm also starting this sidquest as well.
here's some of the steps I did:

2. Go to Goug Machine City, a scene will occur between Besrodio, Mustadio and Ramza.
3. Go to Goland Coal City, go into the bar and listen to the " Ghost of Colliery " rumor.
4. Go to Lesalia Capital City, you'll meet Beowulf here, say " yes " so he joins you.
5. Go back to Goland Coal City and complete the 4 consecutive battles.
6. Once you succeed in saving Reis from Sinogue and Co., you'll get a new stone, and Beowulf and Reis ( Dragon ) will join. You must accept them, or you cannot get Cloud.
7. Return to Goug Machine City , you'll get Worker-8 after a funny scene.
8. Now you must go to Zeltennia Castle, go into the bar and listen to "Cursed Island" rumor.

I haven't founded the flowergirl yet, will I still get cloud even if you skipped step?
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Posted: 8th March 2004 04:03

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dont worry you havent skipped it. just keep going and it will be in one of the cities that you have to pass by if you need to advance in the story. because i remeber couldnt find her and then im like screw it and kept going in the story and then i got the flowers. i think havent played in like a month stupid DD!

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Posted: 6th April 2004 00:02

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wait till chap. 4 keep Mustadio!

1.Go to Goug City you'll see a scene with Besrodio, Mustadio,& Ramza.

2.Go to Goland Coal City read 'bout a rumor of the Ghost Colliery.

3.Go to Lesalia Imeperial Capital and you'll see a scene with Ramza in a bar& you'll meet Beowulf Kadmus say 'Yes' then he'll be a guest at your party.

4.Go back to Goland Coal City and you'll fight 4 battles(just to inform ya mostly you'll have to fight some guns)

5.Last battle you need to Save Reis a holy dragon from this Arahiac demon Sinogue and other monsters. After this battle you'll get an Aquarius stone.
Let those two join your party or no Cloud.

6.Go back to Goug City and see a weird scene.

7.Go to Zeltennia Castle read a rumor about the Nelveska Temple.

8.Buy a flower from that flower girl.

9.Go back to Goug and watch the scene.

10.Go to Nelveska Temple and defeat Worker 7 New.

11.After the battle you'll have a Cancer stone, see a scene of Reis turning back to human, and let her join your party.

12.Go back Goug and see a scene of Cloud transported back in time.

13.Clear out Igros castle and go to Zarghidas Trade city.

14.You'll see a scene of this idiot gang with an idiot Monk with the flower girl name Aeris(strange maybe an ancestor of Aeris duh) and Cloud. You'll have to save Cloud in this battle. This battle is what I call a joke of all battles...

15.When you finish, let him join your party.

16.Get his sword on a top of Beverenia Volcano use the ability Find-Item so he'll be able to use his ability.

He's not so strong just to inform you and you need to wait till his abilities are active. Waste of time... dry.gif

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Posted: 6th April 2004 13:54

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His Finishing Touch is a godsend... it always causes a status effect, petrification very likely. I leveled Cloud up to his 70s, he's more permanent in my team than Agrias.

Also, you people who spew out the garbage about Cloud being bad or any other character being bad, you forget that a character is only as good as what you do with him. Max out a character with useless classes, he's useless. Max out the same character with good classes, he's a shoe-in. Leveling-down and re-leveling up with the right classes is how you max out pure stats. That way, you can actually have lower level gods.
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Posted: 6th April 2004 18:49

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I hope you don't mean that he isn't worth to put in battle
I'm just saying about his weaknesses. What if a monster hit while he's charging!

The Death song tolls it's funeral's bells, but not yet till you finish the battle before he crystalizes, use phoenix down, and raise(2)!

His attacks are good, but slow...
cool.gif But he's still cool. thumbup.gif

& Agrias is good at some spots smile.gif See that mild smile...

But Cloud learns fast.

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Posted: 6th April 2004 20:36

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Cloud is defintley worth having on tour team if you take the time to get him.

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