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Yes, it's very different than what we all originally thought. The real FF4 Easytype in Japan was even easier than what Square ported to the SNES. I won't describe further in this post, but you all should really check out this site:

http://www.geocities.com/arcanelore2001/articles/ff4wrong/

Yes, this is where my new avatar came from.

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"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

Interesting!  Very, very interesting.  Well now we'll have to make a difference between the two when we say "FFIV Easytype" now won't we?

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I find your lack of faith disturbing...

Wow,I never knew about eny of that.It's strange, very strange.

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Teach me, my God and King,
In all things thee to see;
And what I do in any thing
To do it as for thee...

                   -Herbert, George-

Personally I prefer the older version of Zemus (this new one looks like FFVI's Hidon and Death's lovechild).

Aside from that, it's a neat read, but nothing big.  I was rather miffed that people apparently think Ted Woolsey wasn't a good translator, he's the reason FFVI is such a great game IMHO.  But that aside, I'm glad I saw this or I'd probably have trouble with the FFIV quizes I'll be taking later on.

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Arts

Farts

Twarts

With that being said, what type are the roms on this site?  

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"You see Timmy, you can't take every thing as a life and death situation, 'cause you'll die a lot of times" -Van Wilder

Yeah, i checked this site out a while back. Interesting. I wonder if the hidden treasures were purposely put there. Probably not...

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Lou: There's a couple of guys fighting down at the aquarium, Chief.
Wiggum: Do they still sell those frozen bananas?
Lou: I think so.
Wiggum: Let's roll.

That was some pretty interesting stuff. I thought I knew EVERYTHING there was to know about ffiv. The invisble treasure chests sure proved me wrong.

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"Arthur Dent?"
"Yes."
"Arthur Philip Dent?"
"Yes."
"You're a total knee biter."

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With that being said, what type are the roms on this site? Â

They're all clearly marked as which version they are.  Easy Type is now available here as well as the original version and FF2us.

thats definitely some cool stuff. i love when sites have those "secrets dispelled" sections, because i sometimes come across these really out there "secrets" in games, that i coulda never imagined in my wildest dreams. they are of course false, but never the less, its fun to look at.

<---and i like this face because it looks like its dead.

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You watch the world exploding every single night
Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

are these diffrences in the FF4 UK version?
( igot mine 4 weeks before the release date- they apparently sent it out early in scotland!)
also, is it just me, or do enemies with petrify only every target three people? right now, they onkly vere go for edge, rosa and kain in my game!
finnally, there is a roumour that 'depetrifying' palom and porom is exclusive to the UK version, but it has to be rubbish. i dont even remeber where i heard it, but it cant be true.

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"Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato."
-George Santayana

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..."
-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

I can tell you for a fact, they never add anything to the European versions.  They usually don't change anything at all.  The only change I have ever seen is that FF9 UK actually used British English.  That was most welcome, but it's irrelevant.

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I can tell you for a fact, they never add anything to the European versions.  They usually don't change anything at all.  The only change I have ever seen is that FF9 UK actually used British English.  That was most welcome, but it's irrelevant.

I'd love it if they'd throw in an Australian personality. If they do make sure an Australian goes over it.

*is stunned*

First time I ran across this page.  Didn't know someone was listening when I checked out Zeromus' HP.  Well, nice to know someone did!

And for FF2, that figure is around 62,000 if not exactly that... I'd have to look again.  Memory's fuzzy.

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-Master ZED

I was wondering when you would chime in here, MZ. You should post that Zeromus HP data.

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"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

I was told it was 100000 hp. But a bit of counting narrowed in down to 64000.

Quote (Tiddles the Cat @ 6 Feb 2003, 17:01)

I can tell you for a fact, they never add anything to the European versions.  They usually don't change anything at all.  The only change I have ever seen is that FF9 UK actually used British English.  That was most welcome, but it's irrelevant.

thanks for shooting that one down. but i didnt see any diffrence about 9 having 'British ' english.
althought i did see a St. Andrews cross on one of the ships attacking the dragons before you go to memeoria! made my heart fill with patrioctic pride!   o' flower of scotland...

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"Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato."
-George Santayana

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..."
-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

So how's this go now?

FFIVHT or FFIV or FFIVj

FFIVMT or FFIIa or FFIIus or FFIVET(us/a)

FFIVET or FFIVETj

Hard-Type, Easy-Type, and Medium-Type?

*could add more name possibilities, but there are space constrictions







By the way, I heard of the hidden treasure thing awhile back, so far back, I forgot where...



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"I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books."
-Brad Meltzer

FF4 -> FF2us -> FF4 Easy Type.  There's no such thing as "Hard Type" technically, it's just normal FF4, but people have come to call it HT compared to the others.

I've never played the ET so I don't know what people are talking about but the so called HT wasn't that hard. (Except for that damn evil wall).

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I've never played the ET so I don't know what people are talking about but the so called HT wasn't that hard.

It's not that HT is meant to be harder, it's just that ET is meant to be the extremely easier version.

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"I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books."
-Brad Meltzer

Is there another link for the info, this one doesn't appear to work.

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It worked for me just now. -R51

hrmph, it is still doing the same thing. The popup one usually gets when downloading something appears then an error message comes up ontop of that saying: "Internet Explorer couldn't download ff4wrong/ ...either it couldn't be found or is unavailable"

This post has been edited by 1stclass on 21st December 2003 07:03

The site works for me... but anyway, let me make sure I have this straight. The FF4 I played on FF Chronicles (US) was the original FF4 from Japan and not the somewhat easier FF2 (US) and definitely not the mega easier FF4 (Jpn) that has R51's avatar... I have that right, right?

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Get me off this Disciplinary Committee so I can play any FF except for FF8!!!

That's basically right. Chronicles does have some minor changes compared to FF4j, I think, but it's a lot closer to that than to FF2us or FF4ET.

The absolute closest you can get to the original FF4 is probably J2E's fan-translation of the original FF4j ROM (we can't tell you how to find it though, unless someone has a link to the translation patch only, and not the full patched ROM). It's been nicely modified to fit decently long spell/enemy/item names etc. as well, so no more giggling at summons called COCKT.

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And if someone DOES have the patch only, I'd like to get that link, or the file. Giggle giggle. -R51

This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 23rd December 2003 13:15

ahhh geez, why couldn't the piglet sword have been in chronicles, i believe it is unfair that multiple versions of the game were made, and we only got one on the snes(which was titled II and is impossible to find), and also there is chronicles

but down to the facts, why did they even make an easy-type version of the game, it makes no sense, other than they felt the owners of the game were unhappy with certain aspects of the game.

which i am not, whoever owns the easy type has an easier form of the game which i believe is just plain wrong.

This post has been edited by Cloud_Strife510 on 23rd December 2003 21:50

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I'm still a little confuse on this. So let me see if I can get this straight.

The FF4 on FF Chronciles is the original FF4 from Japan, with some small changes, and not the easy type that was release here in the US or the easy type that was release later in Japan?

So do I have that right?

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Quote (TreasureHunter @ 24th December 2003 19:46)

I'm still a little confuse on this. So let me see if I can get this straight.

The FF4 on FF Chronciles is the original FF4 from Japan, with some small changes, and not the easy type that was release here in the US or the easy type that was release later in Japan?

So do I have that right?

Basically, yes.

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"I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books."
-Brad Meltzer

Meh. I've never actually played 2US (or IV, whatever), but I still think that's strange that they should change the game. Just goes to show how much faith the Japanese have in American's ability to play games! (no offense to any Japanese out there)

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Wow. 1,000 posts.

I miss you all now that I'm in boarding school! ;_;

Well, I'll be damned. Thanks for posting this, a good bit of it was news to me.

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Just goes to show how much faith the Japanese have in American's ability to play games!

Actually, I've heard of many cases of the American versions being harder. Contra: Hard Corps in Japan had a life bar, Final Fantasy VII supposedly is a bit more difficult here than the original Japanese version, some of the Street Fighters have been tweaked to make certain combos harder to do, and there are a few others I can't recall off the top of my head but I know I've heard of.

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(no offense to any Japanese out there)

I assure you very few Japanese would say the same about Americans, so don't sweat it.

This post has been edited by AndrewTS on 28th December 2003 05:51

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Meh. I've never actually played 2US (or IV, whatever), but I still think that's  strange that they should change the game. Just goes to show how much faith the Japanese have in American's ability to play games! (no offense to any Japanese out there)

That wasn't it.
At the time, video games in America were considered a "Kids thing", so you couldn't very well release a video game that's difficulty level was for teens.
At the time, translators had an actual list of things that couldn't be included in video games, because alot of parents would get over-sensitive over certain levels of profanity, sexuality, and religion.

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And you can't blame any Japanese stereotypes of Americans, since it was Americans who translated it

This post has been edited by Dark Paladin on 30th December 2003 02:38

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"I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books."
-Brad Meltzer

Ah OK. That makes a little more sense. Thank you, guys. I'll probably start playing more of the early FF games soon.

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Wow. 1,000 posts.

I miss you all now that I'm in boarding school! ;_;