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Quote (Vicks @ 26th November 2003 20:57)

Wedge
Vicks/Biggs
Terra
Locke
Edgar
Sabin
Banon
Celes
Cyan
Gau
General Leo
Strago
Mog
Shadow
Stezer
Relm
Umaro
Gogo

and you forget about ?????, both Terra before you name her and the little ghost that comes with you in the phantom train. Also, Gestahl fight on your side of the screen when he tries to take out Kefka, but you can't see him in the menu, so I guess he doesn't count.

I count 30.
Celes, Cyan, Relm, Strago, Sabin, Terra, Shadow, Gogo, Edgar, Locke, Mog, Setzer, Gau, Umaro, Vicks, Wedge, Kupek, Kupop, Kumama, Kushu, Kurin, Kuru, Kamog, Kuku, Kutan, Kupan, Banon, Leo, Ghost, Maduin.

Wasn't looking for Maduin, but I guess he fits the criteria. Detah's question.

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In the night there is something wild
Can you hear it breathing?
And hey, put the laptop down for a while
In the night there is something wild
I feel it, it's leaving me

Technically speaking, you never use Maduin in a battle, so he wouldn't count, but oh well. Got the other 29 right, though, so it doesn't really matter.

Edit: I have a question about those ghosts. I know that more than one can join your party, but do different ghosts join at different levels and with different stats?

This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 27th November 2003 05:27

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I believe so. I seem to recall once having a level 14 and a level 11 in my party at the same time.

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Quote (Elapidae @ 27th November 2003 00:32)

I believe so. I seem to recall once having a level 14 and a level 11 in my party at the same time.

I don't think any of the "?????/Ghosts" should matter in Levels because I recall being able to Level up whichever you got.

Yeah, there are two different ghosts, the second being pathetic in stats IIRC; you can only get him if Shadow isn't in the party.

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You forgot Locke the merchant and Locke the soldier j/k

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Maybe the question should be "How many Menu Pics do you use during the game?".

I think there is too much confusion with that, because as far as the Ghosts are concerned, they are all the same, from what I remember. If one dies and you haven't broken off the first half of the train yet, then you can go back and get another one.

Either way, ????? at the beginning of the game and Terra are the same person, so I wasn't looking for more than that answer. I was looking for the twenty-nine, and Detah got them plus Maduin, who doesn't really fit the criteria, but it's pointless to make someone else answer it since he was pretty much right anyway. So it's Detah's question.

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Hey, put the cellphone down for a while
In the night there is something wild
Can you hear it breathing?
And hey, put the laptop down for a while
In the night there is something wild
I feel it, it's leaving me

Since we have the old Illumina vs Metamorph debate going on, this one seems particularly relevant. Name all the critters (monsters and bosses) who absorb Holy/Pearl. I know of 12.

1-white dragon
2-magic urn
3-intangir
4-evil oscar
5-chadarnook (goddess form)
6-wrexsoul
7-soul saver
8-one of the hidonites, but im not sure which... i think it's #2 or 3, help me out here, ZED.
9-level 30 magic
10-goddess
11-girl on tower's third tier
12-atma

SOMETIMES the magimaster, and (i think) sometimes No. 024 as well, but above are the only enemies that constantly absorb it.


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Good job, R. You even got 2 of the 3 bonus ones.
Atma, Chadarnook: woman, Evil Oscar, Goddess, Hidonite 1, L30 Magic, Soul Saver, White Dragon, WrexSoul, Final: Girl, Intangir, and Magic Urn are the 12 I was looking for. MagiMaster, MasterPug and Number 024 can absorb Holy/Pearl when their WallChange special lands on it.
therandyrhoads is up.

easy one:

which character(s) has the most sprite poses, and why?

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Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

Oooh, I'm gonna have to say Terra, but thats if your including her esper sprites.

Edit: Even then she still has a few sprites the others don't like the sprite with her hair blowing in the wind. After she pulls the ribbon out

This post has been edited by Zero_Hawk on 29th November 2003 06:25

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im gonna say edgar since he has all his sprites plus his ones as gerad.

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I'm gonna say Locke.

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Quote (Atlas @ 29th November 2003 10:52)

im gonna say edgar since he has all his sprites plus his ones as gerad.

Those aren't new sprites, that's a palette switch.

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fine, then i change my answer to celes beacuse of her opera costume (no palette switch there).

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Sabin, because his Desperation attack gives him a new one, whereas the others use one of their old ones

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Quote (therandyrhoads @ 29th November 2003 01:02)

easy one:

which character(s) has the most sprite poses, and why?

This question is sorta general. Do pallete swaps, different outfits, etc. count? Or does only their normal outfit? Would Terra as Esper count, Egdar Gerad, or Opera Celes count?
If everything counts, I'd say Terra just because of Esper form.

Both Terra (regular form) and Terra the esper have one more sprite than all other characters... unless you count tents as a character sprite. If you count tents, then all characters have the same amount of sprites. I could be wrong though.

This post has been edited by i90east on 30th November 2003 00:45

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sorry guys, i meant to reply sooner, but i really wanted to see how this one would ride out.

this was kind of a trick question, so ill narrow it down:

terra has the most if you want to count her esper form, but thats not REALLY a terra sprite, its a different sprite altogether.

same goes for celes in the opera outfit. its not really the same sprite, its an entirely different one...

i clearly said i'm looking for sprite POSES as in the character's own sprite, not poses from different sprites altogether.

the correct answer is a tossup between two people, depending on how you want to look at it.:

terra: terra's got the unique pose with her hair blowing in the wind, but i dont think that really uses terra's palette or not, input or argument on that is welcome, but that might also fit into the "esper/opera dress" category.

sabin has the most where his sprite remains the same because of his desperation "kick" attack. i really asked this question in the first place to see how many people know about this. this pose uses the same true sprite palette as sabin's other poses, so i would say this is the real answer.

some people say cyan has the most because of his swordtechs, but its mostly just his attacking pose with a sword attached to the hand.


the next question belongs to dark paladin, because he got the right answer but i have to congratulate guy anyway, because he nailed the nature of the question... if DP didnt get the answer right, id have given it to guy simply because he caught on.

This post has been edited by therandyrhoads on 30th November 2003 04:03

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You watch the world exploding every single night
Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

In Sabin's set of sprites I don't see any kick attack thing. Maybe he's using the chocobo riding sprite? Heh.

This post has been edited by i90east on 30th November 2003 09:30

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No, sabin has a custom kicking sprite. I'm quite sure of it. If they rotated the chocobo riding sprite, his head would be angled strangely.

So they have to keep their outfit...so yeah, it would probably be Terra or Sabin.
Terra has wind blowing and some other misc. poses because she's the quasi-main character, and Sabin has the kick...

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Quote (i90east @ 30th November 2003 05:18)

In Sabin's set of sprites I don't see any kick attack thing. Maybe he's using the chocobo riding sprite? Heh.

sabins desperation attack shows his sprite in a jump kick pose. check out CON's character database and look at the picture, thats the only time that sprite pose is used.

sorry guy, nice try though.

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Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

That's actually a monster sprite. You can see it after the monster/Esper sprites, but probably just before the Imp monster sprite.

Terra's hair flowing sprite is in the character sprites near the end (before the chocobo) and she also has an extra sprite in her normal set no one else has. Morphed Terra has an extra pose too, along with the extra flying pose used in the ending. Morphed Terra wins this *probably* if you include the flying sprites from her first morph, which are compressed with the airship sprites IIRC.

But if you only go with the normal set at 150200h in the ROM, excluding tents, my guess is that Terra and morphed Terra tie. Terra has an extra sprite no one else has (everyone else has a blank spot or gibberish), and morphed Terra has a hovering angry sprite in place of her tent.

If you need pics, I'll try to do something about it maybe tomorrow.

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sabins kick pose is a monster sprite? i dunno how you figure, please tell me some more about that. i wasnt including terra's esper sprites as her normal poses, and i didnt think the "blowing hair" posed worked on the same palette. also, besides the blowing hair, what is the extra pose she has, and when do you see it?

i wanted people to give me the character with the most poses USED IN THE GAME. if its not used in the game, and cant be seen without hacking, then it doesnt count.

as for the extra pose, whether or not its used in the game id appreciate the pics anyway, and i stand corrected if im wrong, thanks for making me aware of my mistake.

This post has been edited by therandyrhoads on 1st December 2003 04:20

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You watch the world exploding every single night
Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

Are you thinking Kefka? He's the most used npc bad guy in the game. He does a multitude of poses, and a lot of things happen to him.

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*Looks at Zed's post*

So do I get the next question or not?

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