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I believe Christians also have a saying along the lines of "Love the sinner, hate the sin". Obviously its not the case here.

Its absolutely disgusting that Phelps would want to do this, and to have it put in Shepard's hometown... It seems this guy has nothing more on his mind than to rub salt in the wounds of this community.

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I reject your reality and substitute my own...

Phelps is just an inhuman bastard, and ill take whatever punishment you people give me for that word.
i would like to state however, i would like to say how happy it makes me to see that everyone who has posted a topic here recognizes and is equally appalled as i am about this travesty. it makes me proud--

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once you can accept yourself, you will never be alone

I despise what I have just read. If I knew where this Phelps was, he would get a piece of my mind. One huge christian belief is that God loves all of his children and forgives them for everything. What Phelps did should be considered blasphemy.

This post has been edited by edge murasame on 16th November 2003 20:53

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I will be the mustard of your doom!

]'m ashamed that this monument was thought up by someone who is allegedly in the same species/genus/order/class/phylum/kingdom/domain/whatever as me. This bigot is a disbarred lawyer so we have more proof of hisaintolerance and incompetence at being auhuman. I searched online and found that the town disallowed phelps' monument as ofuOct. 29, and decided to leave the 10 commandments thing as it is. Does anyone know what's happening right now?

By the way, here's what Pope Joh Paul II says about hell "Rather than a physical place, hell is the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."

Seeing t}at phelps's life is characterized by hate and cruelty, and that Shepard was concerned in finding "joy" through being gay, then it would seem that phelps is the one in hell and t}at Shepard must be far from it. So whose theory should we follow, phelps' or the Pope's?

P.S. ..... and I'm not even Christian!

This post has been edited by Ejoty on 1st December 2003 01:59

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Get me off this Disciplinary Committee so I can play any FF except for FF8!!!

Well dispite how wrong this guy is, it's free speech. I am against it as well, it isn't anyone's place to judge homosexuals. However, I think when a person openly offends others as blatently as this "reverend," he should be treated with humiliation and ridicule.

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At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)

I have to disagree with that, though. As much as I dislike Fred Phelps' ideas dealing with Matthew Shepard, giving Phelps humiliation and ridicule is just going to make him feel more justified in doing what he's doing. After all, that's partly what Phelps is doing, and hey, if people are doing it to him, how can they be saying he's wrong? You can't make him see what he's doing if you're doing the same thing right back at him and calling HIM wrong.

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Hey, put the cellphone down for a while
In the night there is something wild
Can you hear it breathing?
And hey, put the laptop down for a while
In the night there is something wild
I feel it, it's leaving me

Heh, this just gives the various "Christian related" religons a even worse name.. im a Satanist myself, and well, i really dont mind/care either way about another persons sexuality.. as, there isnt any reason to be bigotry towards them because they are different to you in sexual preference... so, eh, more the fool them for making this "Anti-Gay monoment"..

But, it did make me chuckle, i'll admit that

Quote (Dawezy @ 1st December 2003 03:35)

Heh, this just gives the various "Christian related" religons a even worse name.. im a Satanist myself, and well, i really dont mind/care either way about another persons sexuality..

If Christianity weren't one of the most politically and economically powerful religions in the world, you'd be picking on something else. Guys like him don't give Christianity a bad name--his opinions aren't representative of the faith. There are an awful lot of Christians who don't give a flying fig one way or the other about homosexuality, and a lot of members of the Buddhist and Hindu faiths (so often applauded for being all Eastern and mystic and stuff!) who condemn it. In some parts of the world, being homosexual is punishable by death. That isn't Christianity in action.

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Veni, vidi, dormivi.