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So, I know a lot of people here don't really like the newer Final Fantasy games but for those of us who do, I wanted to start at topic about the systems our new FF games could end up on in the future.

I may be biased right now because I really love Nintendo again these days, but I am wondering if it's possible that because of Nintendo's return to being a little more of a traditional console than the Wii was, if we'll start getting ports of the numbered FF games on the system. It's something I would be willing to bug Square Enix about. I would love to see those games across all platforms because this last generation, I bought all 3 systems and these days I have an abundance of more hobbies and am not inclined to want to have to buy 3 systems again. As it stands, I'm not even considering an Xbox 720. PS4 I will probably get but it'll be longer into its cycle.

So what are your thoughts? Particularly (but not only) people that have had a chance to experience Nintendo's new hardware.

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I don't see why Squeenix wouldn't make FF for the next Nintendo console if it has the hardware to support it. Thing is, I'm guessing the Xbox 720 and PS4 will be as beefy as they can be, and Nintendo won't bother with this, So I'm guessing the next-gen FF games will be like FFXIII.

There seems to be two tiers of FF right now: first tier of mediocre games in comparison to what's out there now, and a second tier of re-releases that are improvements, arguably, over the original releases. I'm interested in whether there will be more releases like III and IV for DS with 3D graphics. Also Squeenix is close to maxing out on the pre-PSX releases so a complete remake of VII is getting closer and closer I think. Like IV, I think it'll be rebuilt from the ground up but with the same mechanics. As for which system it'll be on, I have no idea, but the next gen of handhelds wouldn't surprise me.

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Yeah I was thinking that the difference in hardware could be an issue.

As far as handheld releases, one that I've been thinking would be nice but I'm not sure how to suggest it Square, is a port of FF: Dimensions on the 3DS. The touch screen is there but now nicely with a stylus and I'm sure they could build in d-pad capability. I just really want to play the game but I hate playing games on my phone and don't have a need to buy a tablet.

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For me, it's still difficult to imagine FF on a Wii U. Yes, Wii U is a much more capable system comparatively, and yes it's a bit less quirky/non-traditional... but it's still fairly quirky/non-traditional. While I would expect SE to put something out for the Wii U which takes full advantage of that system's unique attributes, it just seems more likely to me that they'll stick with one of the two 'traditional' consoles for flagship entries in the main series.

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I think that Square-Enix will keep its big Final Fantasy games on the next XBox and PS4 because, well, they have the top of the line graphics. Square-Enix has always kept their biggest games on the consoles that can deliver the best visuals. That's why FF VII was on the PS1 and not the N64 and why FF XIII was on the 360 and PS3 and not the Wii. Until Nintendo gives a console that has visuals that match its competitors, it will only have 2nd-tier FF games on it.

But I wouldn't shed tears for Nintendo or anything. The 3DS's head start and price drop following that head start have already established it as the bigger handheld for the new generation. There will be plenty of FF stuff on that.

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I'd definitely love to see some more gameplay innovations in the FF series. Hopefully a console like the WiiU can encourage that. Otherwise it seems the FF series is just trying to emulate the movie industry, with its heavy emphasis on aesthetic presentation and storytelling.

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I think that Square-Enix will keep its big Final Fantasy games on the next XBox and PS4 because, well, they have the top of the line graphics. Square-Enix has always kept their biggest games on the consoles that can deliver the best visuals. That's why FF VII was on the PS1 and not the N64 and why FF XIII was on the 360 and PS3 and not the Wii. Until Nintendo gives a console that has visuals that match its competitors, it will only have 2nd-tier FF games on it.

I agree with that. From what I've read, the Wii U is less behind its competitors in terms of graphics than the original Wii was behind its generation; as such, I think the Wii U warrants a SE title in a way that the original Wii, which seemed a bit more dependent on its control gimmick, did not.

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The reason for that, DP, I think is more to do with the fact that graphic progress simply can't expand upon itself as quickly as it once did. The days of the quantum leaps that we saw from NES to SNES to N64, etc, are going to be largely over because there's only so much you can do with graphics. The biggest wins in the next gen, I think, are going to be what you can do in real-time compared to what could previously be done only pre-rendered, and that's where I think the Wii U might fall over.

The neXtbox and the PS4 are likely going to be able to crank out serious real-time processing ability for the visuals, and I don't see the Wii U doing it. It's going to be similar to what happened with the original Wii: first to market almost certainly means lower overall capability. That kind of leads to the broader topic, and really, lasz hit this pretty well already: the WiiU is obviously going to get some Final Fantasy stuff. You know, I could almost even see it getting XIV (though it won't!) because the control scheme could work very well for an MMO. It's not going to get whatever XV is, though, and it's not going to get Versus if Versus remains XIII. Square Enix just won't pull the trigger on something like that, in my opinion.

Now, I remain hopeful that there will be some good games that Squenix will either develop or publish for the Wii U. I want a good reason to use it and I haven't found it yet. I don't think there will be flagship titles, but there's no reason some good, non-remake stuff can't show up there.

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Or they could piss everyone off that never planned to get a Wii U and put the FFVII remake on it. That would never happen but it'd be hilarious. =D

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Or they could piss everyone off that never planned to get a Wii U and put the FFVII remake on it. That would never happen but it'd be hilarious. =D

Some pretty wistful thinking there, Chewbekah

It's been a fairly Nintendo-focused thread thus far, but what do people think of a flagship entry in the FF series landing on the Next Box? We've seen the company give more attention to Microsoft last generation than what they had in the one before that. Does Square Enix's loosening grip on the market warrant sacrificing its exclusivity in order to reach more consumers?

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Have any of the flagship entries been on more than one console? Other than FFVII being on PS1 and Windows PC.

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 30th April 2013 10:42)

Have any of the flagship entries been on more than one console? Other than FFVII being on PS1 and Windows PC.

The entirety of the Final Fantasy XIII numbered entries has been on both 360 and PS3. I don't see any reason why that trend wouldn't continue unless Microsoft does something incredibly strange and unexpected in the hardware configuration of their next machine. You have to go where the money is, and the money's going to largely be in releasing for both those systems going forward, same as it was this gen.

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Have any of the flagship entries been on more than one console?  Other than FFVII being on PS1 and Windows PC.

The entirety of the Final Fantasy XIII numbered entries has been on both 360 and PS3. I don't see any reason why that trend wouldn't continue unless Microsoft does something incredibly strange and unexpected in the hardware configuration of their next machine. You have to go where the money is, and the money's going to largely be in releasing for both those systems going forward, same as it was this gen.

They did say that Versus would be Sony-exclusive; so that'd be interesting if it ended up being transformed into a main-numbered entry. Of course they could always just go back on their word if that ended up being the case, since it's been so darn long anyway.

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it's still fairly quirky/non-traditional. While I would expect SE to put something out for the Wii U which takes full advantage of that system's unique attributes, it just seems more likely to me that they'll stick with one of the two 'traditional' consoles for flagship entries in the main series. For me, it's still difficult to imagine FF on a Wii U. Yes, Wii U is a much more capable system comparatively, and yes it's a bit less quirky/non-traditional...???


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They did say that Versus would be Sony-exclusive; so that'd be interesting if it ended up being transformed into a main-numbered entry. Of course they could always just go back on their word if that ended up being the case, since it's been so darn long anyway.

And that actually happened about two months after you made that post. You're a witch

I don't see Square-Enix changing their ways that much as the new generation nears. They've had the same sort of tepid response to WiiU as everyone, though the 3DS got the pokeymans boost so they might flock there for some scraps. Likely yet more ports of course.

Given that FF15 is a rebranded continuation of the blahblahblah nofun chrysanthemum series, it's going to be at least two years before anything remotely "new" for the FF series crops up. They're pretty firmly stuck on a certain course at the moment.

I actually don't see them doing anything on the Wii U that's main series at all. I think if the other two do well, Wii U's shelf life will be reduced, and either an improved version or a new console will come next.Of course, if both the other consoles underperform, Wii U might be a safety net for SE.

I'm not even going to speculate about the microconsoles though, because that looks for all the world like a miniature videogames crash waiting to happen.


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They did say that Versus would be Sony-exclusive; so that'd be interesting if it ended up being transformed into a main-numbered entry. Of course they could always just go back on their word if that ended up being the case, since it's been so darn long anyway.

And that actually happened about two months after you made that post. You're a witch

I don't see Square-Enix changing their ways that much as the new generation nears. They've had the same sort of tepid response to WiiU as everyone, though the 3DS got the pokeymans boost so they might flock there for some scraps. Likely yet more ports of course.

Given that FF15 is a rebranded continuation of the blahblahblah nofun chrysanthemum series, it's going to be at least two years before anything remotely "new" for the FF series crops up. They're pretty firmly stuck on a certain course at the moment.

I actually don't see them doing anything on the Wii U that's main series at all. I think if the other two do well, Wii U's shelf life will be reduced, and either an improved version or a new console will come next.Of course, if both the other consoles underperform, Wii U might be a safety net for SE.

I'm not even going to speculate about the microconsoles though, because that looks for all the world like a miniature videogames crash waiting to happen.

Not to mention their 3DS Bravely Default, which I have heard is a "related" Final Fantasy title even though it does not carry the Final Fantasy name. They probably won't rush anything of the main series on to the Wii U though I would like to see some iteration of FF:CC because I did enjoy the original game and its art style, it just would be nice if it bumped up just a notch from being less kiddy. But I know that is less likely since the Wii U and Nintendo systems are generally geared for younger audiences.

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Wasn't ff6 supposed to come out on 3ds? ff6 deserves a remake before ff7, since its had less versions.

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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 18th October 2013 05:29)

Wasn't ff6 supposed to come out on 3ds? ff6 deserves a remake before ff7, since its had less versions.

You've asked this several times now in different threads. The answer is no. There have been lots of rumors about it but never, not ever, anything that was reliable information saying "yes, this game is coming."

Also, I would say that your point about "less versions" is highly debatable, but not in this thread.

In other news, my post from April to DP will be referenced in the next CoNcast. DP doesn't realize it yet, though!

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