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Maybe it's just because CoN was the first forum I ever joined, but I get quite annoyed with other forums pretty easily. I've probably joined a dozen of them at least and almost all of them are impossible to have a conversation in without people coming in and being rude, trolling, complaining that everyone is not being politically correct enough, etc. I feel more comfortable here because I know if I have a question I won't have to wait for the first five trolls to roll in before I get a decent answer.
Am I the only one that sees this, or are all these other boards just that ridiculous?

This post has been edited by Sephiroth on 5th October 2009 00:38

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Climhazzard is the timeless evil robot who runs some of the cool stuff at CoN (mostly logging chat, since there are no quizzes at the moment), all the while watching and waiting for his moment to take over the world. -Tiddles

Yeah, I don't know how CoN manages to remain this 'pure'. CoN is the only forum I care about. CoN rules,

This forum is the only one I know that is... friendly is the word. Somehow, we have a clean, nice environment here. Other forums don't. They will strike you down. There are taboos nobody tells you about and if you touch some subjects, you are screwed.
That's what I hate the most about forums.

By the way, CoN rules^2

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Snooping as usual, I see?

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impossible to have a conversation in without people coming in and being rude, trolling, complaining that everyone is not being politically correct enough, etc.

Sounds like the internet, all-right.

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This forum is the only one I know that is... friendly is the word.

Believe me, the word 'friendly' doesn't apply to this situation. CoN is too taxing a territory for most trolls to endure. Many people here will easily out-troll them with the added bonus of actually contributing something to the discussion, while the staff will swiftly dispose of anyone they deem bannable.

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Good old CoN

Well, I am quite easy to fool. I thought every ban has a reason. But I don't seem to find any of that 'banning for fun' situations in here.

So, since I'm stupid, could you give me some examples?

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Snooping as usual, I see?

I definitely agree with you. All of the other forums are too much like Youtube comments. They're overcrowded with the majority ignorant people that don't . . . well, they're just d-bags. That's the main reason I come here, more even then the fact that this is a FF website. The moderators here are quick to jump o people if they do something against the rules, or something just annoying. I think that is why it's different here.

The difference between this forum and others is, I couldn't just come on here and call Sephiroth names, or spam him, and all kinds of other bs. And also, if I post here I have to add something to the conversation.

I remember one time when I first signed up, I posted "I agree" and that's all I said. And R51 called me on it. Because when you think about it, what does "I agree" mean? You guys don't care if I agree, you care why I agree.

Plus, everyone seems engaged here. Most of the people who agree with each other, even me and Sephiroth, can argue about things pretty deeply. I don't see any deep discussions about banning cigarettes or gay marriage on other forums. At least not the way we're doing here.

So, I guess we all agree, Long Live CoN!

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 5th October 2009 08:48

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Praise Be To Helix!

I agree as well. Other forums I've been to have a handful of helpful people whose voices are lost in the sea of trolls and spam. Here people back up their opinions instead of just stating them as facts. And even when people disagree I don't see the disscusion dissolving into petty insults. Thank you to the mods for keeping everything under control.

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Spin-offs: FFIV: Interlude & The After Years, Crisis Core: FFVII, X-2, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, Type-0 HD, Dissidia, Dissidia 012, and Tactics (original & WotL).
Enjoyed them all.

Quote (Toransu Kuja @ 5th October 2009 00:23)

Well, I am quite easy to fool. I thought every ban has a reason. But I don't seem to find any of that 'banning for fun' situations in here.

So, since I'm stupid, could you give me some examples?

I don't think that's what he is trying to say. I think he's saying that people who blatantly spew nonsense from their keyboard will not only get schooled by people with sources and facts to back up what they have to say, but will also be banned for a continuation of their rude and trolling conduct. This isn't to say that our mods here go looking for a reason to ban, but rather that they won't tollerate indecency toward other members. I think this is a good practice and it's why I go through other forums like disposable contact lenses, while staying around here for the last five years or so. I don't even have time to keep up with video games anymore, nor will I have the money to own any of the next gen consoles until I finish college, but sometimes I just like to stop by here and chat just because I know I won't be met with single line posts that do nothing but childishly ridicule me and twist up my original message. So, thanks to the mods for being decent human beings and paying attention to their forums instead of going to sleep at the keyboard like most other sites.

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Quote (Sephiroth @ 5th October 2009 12:07)

I don't think that's what he is trying to say. I think he's saying that people who blatantly spew nonsense from their keyboard will not only get schooled by people with sources and facts to back up what they have to say, but will also be banned for a continuation of their rude and trolling conduct. This isn't to say that our mods here go looking for a reason to ban, but rather that they won't tolerate indecency toward other members. I think this is a good practice and it's why I go through other forums like disposable contact lenses, while staying around here for the last five years or so. I don't even have time to keep up with video games anymore, nor will I have the money to own any of the next gen consoles until I finish college, but sometimes I just like to stop by here and chat just because I know I won't be met with single line posts that do nothing but childishly ridicule me and twist up my original message. So, thanks to the mods for being decent human beings and paying attention to their forums instead of going to sleep at the keyboard like most other sites.

True story. My PS2 is on the fritz, and I have sprung for any of the most recent consoles, so it's been a while since I last played any video game. However, I love stopping through CoN because I feel like the majority of those people frequenting the boards here have intelligent/insightful remarks. (And, they aren't always asking whether I like FFVII Cloud more than I do AC Cloud.)

I think CoN represents the last vestige of my forum days. And so long as it continues to produce solid--even brilliant--discussion, I will remain here.

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Quote (Toransu Kuja @ 5th October 2009 00:23)

Well, I am quite easy to fool. I thought every ban has a reason. But I don't seem to find any of that 'banning for fun' situations in here.

So, since I'm stupid, could you give me some examples?

I don't think that's what he is trying to say. I think he's saying that people who blatantly spew nonsense from their keyboard will not only get schooled by people with sources and facts to back up what they have to say, but will also be banned for a continuation of their rude and trolling conduct. This isn't to say that our mods here go looking for a reason to ban, but rather that they won't tollerate indecency toward other members. I think this is a good practice and it's why I go through other forums like disposable contact lenses, while staying around here for the last five years or so. I don't even have time to keep up with video games anymore, nor will I have the money to own any of the next gen consoles until I finish college, but sometimes I just like to stop by here and chat just because I know I won't be met with single line posts that do nothing but childishly ridicule me and twist up my original message. So, thanks to the mods for being decent human beings and paying attention to their forums instead of going to sleep at the keyboard like most other sites.

All I can say is that I've really enjoyed our arguments, Sephiroth. I enjoy all of the arguments we do here. Because they aren't really arguments, they are deep discussions.

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Quote (Toransu Kuja @ 5th October 2009 00:23)

Well, I am quite easy to fool. I thought every ban has a reason. But I don't seem to find any of that 'banning for fun' situations in here.

So, since I'm stupid, could you give me some examples?

I don't think that's what he is trying to say. I think he's saying that people who blatantly spew nonsense from their keyboard will not only get schooled by people with sources and facts to back up what they have to say, but will also be banned for a continuation of their rude and trolling conduct. This isn't to say that our mods here go looking for a reason to ban, but rather that they won't tollerate indecency toward other members. I think this is a good practice and it's why I go through other forums like disposable contact lenses, while staying around here for the last five years or so. I don't even have time to keep up with video games anymore, nor will I have the money to own any of the next gen consoles until I finish college, but sometimes I just like to stop by here and chat just because I know I won't be met with single line posts that do nothing but childishly ridicule me and twist up my original message. So, thanks to the mods for being decent human beings and paying attention to their forums instead of going to sleep at the keyboard like most other sites.

All I can say is that I've really enjoyed our arguments, Sephiroth. I enjoy all of the arguments we do here. Because they aren't really arguments, they are deep discussions.

I agree! (lol, I couldn't resist)
I'm with you on that one man. I love the conversations I have here. I feel like even if we agree, we aren't just beating a dead horse. I've learned plenty from those I agree with (and disagree) simply because conversations like the ones we've had go deeper than "I don't support the clove cigarette ban."
"Yeah me neither. Fascist government!"

Also, as we have discussed at much length. I attack the views of a person I disagree with. Attacking someone's character does zero bit of good for the argument except take credibility away from the attacker, and attacking someone's ideas does not mean "you're belief is retarded."

This post has been edited by Sephiroth on 6th October 2009 02:44

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Climhazzard is the timeless evil robot who runs some of the cool stuff at CoN (mostly logging chat, since there are no quizzes at the moment), all the while watching and waiting for his moment to take over the world. -Tiddles

I want to heartily agree with this. I'm not a very big tech guy at all. In fact, I don't spend very much time on the computer at all. I have tried a few other forums but they all seem the same: obnoxious, rude and an overall mess.

I think the people on the top here at CoN probably deserve most of the credit. The rules are all good and firm: stay on topic, don't post just for the sake of posting, and don't be... well... would it be hypocritical to say 'a moron'?

Regardless, the people and overall environment we have here a CoN is great and, from what I've seen, rare. Thanks to all for that one!

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I guess it just depends on what forums you use and the people you meet there. Also the topics a forum will allow and the topics that are taboo and how far the forum will let you go with taboo topics. Even though this forum has had topics I disagree with like with any forum I can see that y'all are understanding to a lot.

Such as a few of my post may not have been agreeable but y'all let me have my own opinion as that I understand y'all s. But one thing we all agree on is Final Fantasy rocks and that is what brings us together.

Though I've noticed that well it could be that I don't post as much here but I've got two forums I post on regularly where people have more chemistry as in we are more like friends than people posting on a web site.

I prefer that quality in forums cause there is so much you can learn from other people. I do get out and have real friends too but still online friends once you get to know them can be just as good.

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I'd like to add my agreement to the list.

I'm on CoN and the Sluggy Forums, and that's it. And actually, even though they're run very similarly, I like hanging out on CoN more because folks are a lot more civil. I'd be highly surprised to see any personal abuse going on here.

It's like walking into a club where, even though you don't know anyone, you're welcomed anyway just by virtue of being a fan of the subject matter.

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Quote (MeaPortia @ 10th October 2009 13:05)

It's like walking into a club where, even though you don't know anyone, you're welcomed anyway just by virtue of being a fan of the subject matter.

Exactly, you summed it all up. We're all here because we love Final Fantasy, rpgs, or at least games. So, though we argue sometimes, we ultimately are here for the same reason.

I feel sometimes, about this forum, like we're the team in Remember the Titans. We come to this place where we've learned to live together, and be civilized. And then we walk out into the world and see how bad it is. So, we cling to our forum, okay, I've just become really cheesy. Sorry, but the CoN's just great.

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Quote (BlitzSage @ 10th October 2009 14:05)

[QUOTE=MeaPortia,10th October 2009 13:05]I feel sometimes, about this forum, like we're the team in Remember the Titans. We come to this place where we've learned to live together, and be civilized. And then we walk out into the world and see how bad it is. So, we cling to our forum, okay, I've just become really cheesy. Sorry, but the CoN's just great.

Please keep out the Remember the Titans references. My mother, uncle, and three of my aunts all went to T.C. and the story wasn't like that at all. The only real reasons to watch that movie are the very nice performances by Washington and Patton.

But yeah, CoN's great. If you're civil and follow the (very reasonable) rules, then it's the best forum on the internet, as far as I'm concerned. When I go to other forums nowadays it's for information for the most part. The only ones I keep going back to are CoN and UVA Gamers.

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Please keep out the Remember the Titans references. My mother, uncle, and three of my aunts all went to T.C. and the story wasn't like that at all. The only real reasons to watch that movie are the very nice performances by Washington and Patton.

Oh sorry, I didn't know I struck a nerve. Wait, they went 13-0 right?

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Please keep out the Remember the Titans references.  My mother, uncle, and three of my aunts all went to T.C. and the story wasn't like that at all.  The only real reasons to watch that movie are the very nice performances by Washington and Patton.

Oh sorry, I didn't know I struck a nerve. Wait, they went 13-0 right?

Yes. They basically took the two large high schools of the City of Alexandria, both of which were expected to be state championship contenders, and combined them into a super juggernaut that beat most of their opposition by at least 20 points a game. The story was anything but a triumph of underdogs. The only game they played that was close at all was against Marshall, so the movie decided to make it the final game of the season instead of early in the season.

Now, I don't want to downplay the anti-racism message that the movie presents, either. There absolutely was and still is racist thinking in that area (just like everywhere else in America), and the team truthfully experienced lots of prejudice during their run. My beef with the movie is that it oversentimentalizes the team's football success when part of the community's opposition to the two high schools merging was that boosters of other schools didn't want to create such a powerhouse to compete against.

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Shouldn't staff not help to derail threads from their topics? See me after class, etc. -R51

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Shouldn't staff not help to derail threads from their topics? See me after class, etc. -R51

Nobody is safe from the iron grip of CoN mod tyranny.

Yeah, well, anyway. I might just be exaggerating, but this place had a lot of growing pains, too. And now it has aging pains (mostly Josh). Either way, I suppose I could chalk up the "maturity" of these forums to the proper toiling, weeding, and upholding of standards that got us through said pains. But let's not give anyone too much credit. The staff isn't used to appreciation.

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I find your lack of faith disturbing...

Wow. Just wow. I'm back for a visit after being gone for, oh i don't know how long, but the atmosphere and the general tone is just.... It's refreshing to see that as long as CoN has been around this place is still thriving and growing. And everyone's completely right. You look at your favorite television show's forums, or what have you and everyone has their own opinion (which is great)... and everyone needs their opinion to be to general consensus (which is not so great). For example I recently became the manager of a small mom and pop comic shop, so I started hanging around the DC comics message boards for a little while just to check things out and get some product knowledge as it were.

the scenario is this mini-series came out and and half way through it some guy was just so excited he found some promo artwork for the next issue and posted it on the website before the issue came out... and the first reply is 'man this series sucks, it's the worst thing ever written, etc, etc, etc' and no word of a lie this guy who doesn't read the series and hates it so much, wrote a whole page as to why this guy was stupid for liking this series. followed by 4 other people with similar yet better handled comments but still.

message boards have just been filled with so much negativity and flaming and racism and what have you it's nice to know that somewhere out there CoN is still hanging in there, kicking butts, takin' names. And every time pop back in when out of the blue i receive a subscription update to a thread I started 5 years ago i come back and hang out for a while and can never remember why I don't hang out here more often. Need more hours in the day.

Keep up the great work guys

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I gave up on other forums a long time ago. Here you have to earn every post. That gives you time to think about the topic and come up with a proper contribution/respone. Rather unlike, well, most other forums in fact.

Plus I've never had account trouble on here. aha!

One thing I like about the CoN forums - especially when compared to other forums - is that there isn't a new post every five minutes. It's easy to come in, read what's new, leave a post or two, then go about my day. With other forums I may sit there for hours, reading the swarm of new posts, leave responses, etc etc etc.

Also, I really like how we all seem to be relatively intelligent people - intelligent enough not only to be able to back up our arguments, but intelligent enough to type legibly.
Because, really, who wants to read something along the lines of "OMG U GUYZZZZ CLOUD IS SO AWESOMEEEEEEE SEPHIROTHS DUM ND I DUNNO WHO KEFKA IS HE SOUNDS STUPIDDDDD"?

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Quote (Insegredious @ 12th November 2009 01:41)

One thing I like about the CoN forums - especially when compared to other forums - is that there isn't a new post every five minutes. It's easy to come in, read what's new, leave a post or two, then go about my day. With other forums I may sit there for hours, reading the swarm of new posts, leave responses, etc etc etc.

Also, I really like how we all seem to be relatively intelligent people - intelligent enough not only to be able to back up our arguments, but intelligent enough to type legibly.
Because, really, who wants to read something along the lines of "OMG U GUYZZZZ CLOUD IS SO AWESOMEEEEEEE SEPHIROTHS DUM ND I DUNNO WHO KEFKA IS HE SOUNDS STUPIDDDDD"?

Everything you said I completely agree with. This forum is a perfect mix. It's not too crowded, but it doesn't crawl either. There are a lot of posts every day, so it's not dead, but there are just a few so we can keep up with each other.

And I do personally appreciate that people use periods in this forum and complete thoughts.

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Praise Be To Helix!

I hope this ain't too off topic but at first I was intimidated by all the rules this forum has in comparison to the others I post in but things turned out not too bad.

I mean I've had some views that some of y'all probably find controversial as well as vice versa but y'all kept y'alls cool as did I.

What I'm trying to say is even though we disagree on certain things y'all have been pretty cool and I like that in a forum. Oh well after all we are all fans of Final Fantasy and I guess that's what makes us get along the most. Maybe if I get to know y'all guys better through the forum. We can become good online friends.

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this is my 1st actual post on this site, but reading around the forums i have to say i agree with prety much everyone here, this forum is a rare one in the sense of kindness and open-mindedness. the only other forum ive joined like this one, and the only other one ive stayed with, is nintendopals.net it is a site about all video games in general.

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weather or not our opinions conflict dont matter, most people can't have their opinions changed, and the ones that can? i would'nt waste my time trying so hate my opinion or love it, I dont care, JUST SHUTUP ABOUT IT!

Fully agree with OP. I was even going to start a thread like this once, after some very painful experiences on other forums.
CoN wins.

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*Sigh*....Times are tough

This is the topic that made me decide to join. Lately I've been scoping this place out as a guest. I'm usually pretty wary about joining a new forum because a lot of the times it never seems worth it.

Many places seem to ignore the new members, and even when you've been around for a while, you're still ignored because you're not in the popular cliques. Either that or you're completely ostracized because you disagreed with someone who has a higher post count than you, or the whole "you don't know me, so what makes you think you can talk to me?" drama. What's the point of posting at a place like that?

I've got a good feeling about this forum though.

I miss and loves me some CoN

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This is the topic that made me decide to join.  Lately I've been scoping this place out as a guest.  I'm usually pretty wary about joining a new forum because a lot of the times it never seems worth it. 

Many places seem to ignore the new members, and even when you've been around for a while, you're still ignored because you're not in the popular cliques.  Either that or you're completely ostracized because you disagreed with someone who has a higher post count than you, or the whole "you don't know me, so what makes you think you can talk to me?" drama.  What's the point of posting at a place like that?

I've got a good feeling about this forum though.

Yes, your post count is pretty worthless here. You have to earn your post count at that by making a decent contribution with every post. There is one member that's been around here quite a long time who had his posts rolled back to -500 for post spamming in order to get his count up. He's still around though (you know who you are!). The point is, your input counts here whether you've made made 3 posts or 300.

I'm glad to know that so many others are seeing what I do in the internet forums these days. I've have experienced some placed where you get the feeling the mods just fell into a long deep sleep. Actually the reason I started this post was because I spent quite a bit of time on Dave's ESL Cafe, keeping track of economic situations and job offers overseas for when I finish college. I know there are a lot of "English teachers" who teach in Asia without an English degree, and worse, sometimes without a degree at all, of any kind. Everyone insults everyone else over the tiniest little things and a lot of the members use horrible grammar to boot. So, I started a thread pointing out that the grammar on such a well known teaching forum should be better, and questioned how many people actually had ENGLISH degrees since most of them can't even get the difference between 'than' and 'then' down properly and got every response from photos of Hitler that said "Grammar Nazi" to comments like "get off your high horse" and "just because your actual field is English doesn't mean you're better at it than me." It wasn't until I was backed by another member (after four pages of insults) that the thread died. He/she came in and told them "High Horse?! The OP is talking about basic, fifth grade grammar, not effing string theory people!" Shortly after that, I made this thread due to my frustration.

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The Caves of Narshe Forums seem to be pretty carefree and relaxed. It seems like everybody just takes things the way that they are and most of all don't follow the crowd and like/ prefer to keep things simple and not do things just for the sake of doing things. Everybody here including the main mods seem pretty smart and wise and have a amazing sense of humor when can bring out a less serious side to this Forum and think that everybody gets along here because it seems like everybody relates and has most things in common [ Example- Dislike Final Fantasy VIII the most and favor Final Fantasy VI the most ]

But is going to be honest and have to admit that this Forum is great because there is no jerks here plain and simple many other Forums out there are just stuck with right jerks who ruin/ spoil the Forum for everybody and the main moderators and try to people who speak/ chat online life a misery. Have been on a few Final Fantasy forums before this one and honesty most of them [ expect this one ] it's right fulled with arrogant jerks who think that they are the greatest thing the world and a whole lot more , but they all fail to realize that A] they are in love with a series most would consider to be Nerd like and B] they are cowards and too pathetic to be able to insult somebody in reality..

Is glad that CON Is free from online jerks and that's why believe that CON is so great/ doing so well and why other Forums are falling/ failed. Because a couple of bad eggs just spoil/ rotten the whole basket..

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I wouldn't say that the Caves of Narshe are without it's fair share of jerks and the occasional contemptible douchebag. I can think of a list of names just off the top of my head of some of our more nefarious posters from the past. Name calling, and outright silliness exists in all corners of the internet. Fortunately, however, CoN is rather good at keeping these incidents isolated and sending most trolls packing.

And that isn't even to begin mentioning some of the more extreme situations that have taken place in CoNchat. (A much more explicit, let-your-hair-down venue than the forums proper.)

I will, however, say that I've become friends with a good number of members of this site, something that definitely would not have been possible anywhere else, or even if this place had been run any other way. I'm going to cut this short here before I accidentally start stroking Josh's ego.


and, Sephiroth, let's not scare the children with tales of my sordid past, hmm?




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