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Quote (ultimage @ 2nd January 2006 22:17) But on that note: Quote ...in Poland. Our society is mostly anti-homosexual. What's really funny is that Bel Ami is a polish gay porn studio, and many of their "actors" are straight. I had the impression Polish folk were more sexually liberated than how you've stated. ![]() My Friend, YOU HAVE NO IDEA! Then again, our situation is amusingly complicated. Studios, like the one wich you mentioned, are "underground", as in, legal and all, but not commonly known of, most people, have no idea such institutions exist. Second, our society is OLD, and therefore very biased, plus, radical right-wing bastards are lately ever louder. (People who say that homosexuality and contreception is against "family values", and who act like, if abortion were legalized, or rather, made a bit easier, 'cause it's legal in a few cases, all pregnant women were going to be forced to abort. ![]() People with, let's say, milder, socio-political opinions are silenced by shouts of bastards. The views of the current governing party are similiar. The following joke is, that people like myself who, have long hair, dress too "dark" or too "colourful", who read mangas, express emotions publically, ask question like "What for IS all this hate of yours, dude?" and/or talk tabu topics publically are considered equal to gays. My friend was attacked by an old lady, yes ATTACKED, with a purse, just because the lady saw she was wearing a Naruto button and heard she had two little sisters ("YOU PERVERTED LITTLE....!!!!"), and this isn't in any way a joke or exaggaration. The funny part is, that one part of the society has it's so called "Christian-morality", saying "God's will that, God's will this", but forgetting stuff like turning the other cheek, or "thou shalt not steal/kill" etc. On the other hand, the Polish have a natural tendency to resist oppression, thus, well, we have a lot of young people, who think tolerantly (even if they don't approve of homosexuality)... Well...you see what I mean? The majority is against, but the minority will resist ( a common Polish tendency, displayed through centuries of oppression.) -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Posted: 4th January 2006 13:00
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Quote (Realistic Rain @ 2nd January 2006 21:34) Small towns definitely have gay people. As for whether it's 10%, I highly doubt it. In cities, people mind their own business. In small towns, people know one another. If they don't know each other, they know your name and have the ability to bother you... I agree with SilverMaduin very much, it's that people see only a difference. Kind of like the way left-handed children were thought to be sinister. It's the person with the difference, not the difference with the person. As for the porn subject, we'll just let that one go. But it's true there are two sides. You have the weird boys who do everything with anything that moves and then you have a more sensual kind. That's all I'm saying on that. ![]() Realistic Rain Exactly. Many people classify a homosexual couple as "A gay couple" instead of "A couple that is gay" if you know what I mean. In the school that I live in, people are pretty tolerent. It actually shocked me that people really are that tolerent. But this confrontation happened at my school one day: Dude:Did you know that you're short? Guy:Did you know that you're gay? Dude:So? Whether dude was really gay or not, I never bothered to ask. But that's not the point. (Neither was the short comment) I do still call things that I don't like gay though. Like that movie is pretty gay. It's a habit that I'm trying to break. -------------------- |
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Posted: 11th January 2006 16:16
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Quote (Hamedo @ 3rd January 2006 09:15) I don't buy the "10%" theory, and I don't buy the assertion that homosexuals reside in every town in the US. I think it's silly to proclaim that there is always "at least one", no matter where you go. In general, surveys quoted by anti-gay activists tend to show figures nearer 1%, while surveys quoted by gay activists tend to show figures nearer 10%, with a mean of 4-5% figure most often cited in mainstream media reports. In 2005, as part of the statistical and financial measurements required to impliment the UK's new Civil Partnerships Act, the British government's H.M. Treasury actuaries calculated that there are 3.6 million British people who may to enter into a gay or lesbian civil partnership arrangement. This is equal to around 6 percent of the UK population. So really, we're probably looking at around the same percentage for the US, or possibly a tad less, considering the UK is more "progressive" in it's civil liberties. My guess is that the US floats around 4.5%, and the world as a whole is sitting somewhere on the 2.5% to 3% margin. Not even. San Francisco has the largest gay population in the United States, at 2% -------------------- "I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books." -Brad Meltzer |
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Posted: 11th January 2006 16:54
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Seriously? Based on stereotypical thinking alone, I had San Fran pegged at maybe as high as 20%. Where did you get that info, DP? If that's truly the case, I'd be willing to venture that the worldwide population of homosexuals is really somewhere around .005%
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Posted: 15th January 2006 01:03
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i'm fine with gay people, just dont be hittin on me or nuthin.
the only gay people i dont like are the overly feminine, "actually wanna be a woman" gay men. -------------------- moé in the streets, senpai in the sheets |
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Posted: 15th January 2006 02:35
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Quote (Malevolence @ 14th January 2006 20:03) the only gay people i dont like are the overly feminine, "actually wanna be a woman" gay men. Here's another thing I do get a bit confused on, and I'd like some clarification. I know that there are a number of people, well, mostly men, who feels this way because they view women as 'inferior' to men, and can't comprehend why in the world a man would want to degrade himself to be on par with a woman. [That is almost a direct quote, but I cannot remember where from at the moment.] The same attitude is used in bias against male nurses, stay-at-home-dads, etc. You know how tomboys are accepted as normal girls, but boys who dress up like girls are fairy freaks of nature, even though they are not gay at all? What I want to know is how common the thought is, does anyone hear of something like this often? I personally have known people who really think like this. A good question is, when will the stereotyping and degredation of individuals for being different end? -------------------- The first duty in life is to assume a pose, and the second duty is...well, no one's found out yet. |
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Posted: 15th January 2006 02:52
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it's not that i dont respect women or view them as inferior, it's just seeing a man act like a woman just looks and sounds too wierd. maybe i'm a little homophobic...nah, that aint the word. a little intolerant might be it.
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Posted: 15th January 2006 17:51
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Actually... My BF and I have a theory about femme boys (being that we're, as i've said, very cynical of the 'gay culture')... It's all an act. Some people feel that they need to be visible in their differences and so they act out., as attention starved people are want to do. This 'femme stereotype' is something generated by many gay people themselves, and proudly, so it's no wonder that so many people think we're all like that - they are the most visible, anyone would have to agree. Personally, I can't stand when fellow gay folk act like girls or refer to themselves in the feminine (Heeeeeey Girlfriend... my god
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Posted: 18th January 2006 05:28
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Once again, I see the same thing I've seen year after year after year. While, I am straight/not gay/heterosexual or whatever is preferred, I somehow think that it is an issue constructed by certain people and handed down to us to bicker over. You can see some of my other posts on topics and start to understand what kind of a person I am relating to that idea.
Whether a person is gay or straight, black or white, Christian or agnostic, we are all human beings and deserve to be treated no less. When politicians in any political party say that a person is less of a person because they are in love with someone of the same sex is absurd and to outlaw it completely is horrendous. Why money is wasted on this matter is beyond me. I do not like the way that some of our modern culture glorifies homosexuality (i.e. Queer Eye, etc.) either. It creates an atmosphere that it is cool or popular when it is no more cool or popular to be straight. A person, in reality, is gay or straight whether it's cool or not, and for someone to deny their preference simply because of the people they hang out with, TV, or whatever is only going to cause more problems down the road. Homosexuality is not a way of life, an ethnicity, or an organization. It is nothing more than a sexual preference and should be treated as such. Sexual preference should never come up in a professional environment or else it would cease to be a professional environment. As I stated before, people are people whether they choose to be gay or straight and I will respect them as such. It's not a war between the gay community and the straight community. It is only a war to those who are going to fight for more than their fair share. And I will support gay rights until they get their fair share. -------------------- "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard; be evil." |
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Posted: 18th January 2006 23:41
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Well, I'm not going to reference people individually, but I'll just qualify a few things.
I think "men acting like women" is a very loose term, it really doesn't describe something that can be accurately applied to any 'effeminate male'. I believe there is a fairly apparent difference between wanting to be a woman, acting in a feminine way, and associating your interests with traditionally feminine things. Yes, it may be true that some people are just acting a certain way, but is it possible they just don't feel comfortable acting "manly?" Personally, I don't embrace the so-called "gay culture". People have told me that if they met me on the street, I wouldn't come across as gay, not fitting any large stereotype but as they got to know me more they were able to figure it out. That makes me feel good because I'm not trying or wanting to hide my sexuality and appear straight nor am I trying to advertise it. As for the glorification of homosexuality, that's very true. Sexuality is a very personal thing and shouldn't be regarded as such a labeling concept. I've seen one episode of Queer Eye and I was honestly a little offended. To think that other people are entertained by a bunch of flaunting "fashion" fiends. (I give myself a point for alliteration ![]() On the subject of political rights, I do believe we should have our "fair share". But for everyone who's gung-ho about giving gays the right to marry, etc., it doesn't change people's opinions, the strength of relationships, or social power. It gives us a political base which is only a starting point towards equality. Discrimination will always be present but this is a small way to lessen a burden. I really don't have much more to say. Pointless to argue over a choice of words ("preference" vs. "orientation", etc.) because it's usually just a misunderstanding unless that's the topic being debated. Which it is not. I'm not trying to be accusing, just informative. Thank you everyone! Realistic Rain -------------------- "I'm on a caffeine buzz!" "No, you're on a sugar high." |
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Posted: 13th August 2009 19:21
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We're all human, boohoo if someone's different.
Life's like that, right wings need to get over it. Moderator Edit Really? Brought back a three year old topic for that? Interesting. -R51 Someone was viewing the topic and I hadn't bothered to look at the time. This post has been edited by Messier17 on 18th August 2009 15:54 -------------------- If god is all-forgiving then why do we have to kill people in his name? |
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Posted: 18th August 2009 14:30
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Damn - I was hoping to be the first one to comment on the time frame... and I got so excited when there was no actual post... and then I see R51's Mod Edit.. Erg!
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Posted: 18th August 2009 14:49
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Mmm, it's certainly become a hot topic since 2006, and we allow thread necromancy.
In news today, Anchorage's mayor vetoed a ban against sexual orientation discrimination. The absolutely crazy thing about it is that his reason for the veto was that it was "unclear if such discrimination exists". I can understand that the majority of people reacted in opposition to his bill, but to claim that it's unclear that sort of discrimination exists is absolutely ridiculous. In 60% of US States, there is no anti-discrimination law for HOUSING, meaning that if my landlord wants to evict me as a gay man, he has the right on that basis alone. And even if that discrimination DIDN'T exist, couldn't declining to add a provision for protection be seen as a green light for such discrimination to begin? When an issue like that is brought into the limelight, and people suddenly realize that there's no law against it, that's opening up a largely potential can of worms. Saying that he doesn't know if such discrimination exists is largely different from him saying that such discrimination is wrong, but if he DOES believe that it's wrong, there is absolutely no reason for such a law to be passed. -------------------- Hey, put the cellphone down for a while In the night there is something wild Can you hear it breathing? And hey, put the laptop down for a while In the night there is something wild I feel it, it's leaving me |
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Posted: 18th August 2009 17:36
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Hamedo, y'know you saying that odds are small towns DON'T have at least one gay person?
I live in a village Gay people I know to live in the village: Danny (Me) Danny (Not me) Two lads on a bus I take home from college every day Two lesbians my driving instructor takes One guy and one girl who one of my friends knows So thats 8 in this village that I know about And I go to a gay youth group in a small town and besides me and Danny, the 37 members that go to said youth group are all from said small town, another small town has an even larger gay group And naturally, not everyone in said small towns who is gay will be attenting them So, how does that effect your statistics belief Hamedo? ANYWAY, on topic, I personally haven't (offline) experianced homophobia, possibly since due to me being Autistic and having rather poor social skills I don't meet a large scope of people, but I do know people who have recieved a lot of it and my heart goes out to them I don't understand why so many people hate minorities to such an extent for such trivial differances, skin colour, sexuality, I'm waiting till some sort of eye colour crusade occurs, it's about the same in terms of how differant a person you are Another thing is, slavery and racism is very well known about, taught in history classes usually part of obligitory curriculum But no one ever learns about the 1000 year+ persecution of gay people, how they were hunted down in the medieval days and that it was believed it was a desease that could only be purified by fire and were both burned at the stake or run through with red hot pokers The insult faggot comes from there, in biblical terms a faggot is "A bundle of sticks designed to be burned" Another thing that is often overlooked is gay people were also a target of the holocaust, yeah less were killed that Jewish peeps, but it still happened, and in the POW cames they were attacked by both the Germans and the homophobic Jewish Which is also were the Pink Triangle for gay guys and the Black Triangle for gay girls came from, they were on the bands that they were forced to wear, like the Orange Band with the Star of David the Jewish were forced to wear (Gay people would actually steal the orange bands from dead Jews just to escape the additional hate) Homophobia in history is ignored so much, it's insanely unfair This post has been edited by Dark Paladin Danny on 18th August 2009 17:36 |
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Posted: 18th August 2009 20:19
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You know, they say that most people who are very homophobic ultimately turn out to be a homosexual themselves.
To be honest, I'd rather be friends with a gay guy than have a "woman" trick me with the pecker down there. Atleast I can keep my guard up that way when approaching any guy. I don't support gay rights, neither persecute them. I believe it's not right, but I don't hate those who are gay;just their sexuality I don't want to get involved with. PS: And I'm glad that there are gay men because that means there are MORE WOMEN for us straightees, hurrah! |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 00:22
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Quote (Blades of Steel @ 18th August 2009 16:19) You know, they say that most people who are very homophobic ultimately turn out to be a homosexual themselves. To be honest, I'd rather be friends with a gay guy than have a "woman" trick me with the pecker down there. Atleast I can keep my guard up that way when approaching any guy. I don't support gay rights, neither persecute them. I believe it's not right, but I don't hate those who are gay;just their sexuality I don't want to get involved with. PS: And I'm glad that there are gay men because that means there are MORE WOMEN for us straightees, hurrah! There are so many things wrong with that post... so many that I really just don't know what to argue with. lol 1. Your homophobia doesn't turn you gay. For me, it's just that I don't like the idea of sex with a man. But because I don't like penises doesn't mean I secretly want one. but lol anyways, I sort of understand what you mean. Often people are putting up a facade about their sexuality rather than being open, whether gay or straight. Gay people pretend to not be gay out of fear of rejection, and straight people act homophobic to hide any secret feminine traits they have, as if they are weakness. 2. That isn't a woman, but that sort of uncomfortably blurs the lines doesn't it? It's not that they trick you and then put a trance on you, you're afraid to be turned on by a tranny/shemale/whatever term you wish and then, surprise! a dick! But that's not how it works. That is just based on physical attractiveness, and that doesn't make you gay to think that she's hot, if you don't know she's packing, or perhaps even if you do know. Plus, I don't think they're trying to trick you, nor do you have to "keep your guard up with gay people. 3. It's one of those issues that you can't be "in the middle" about. If there is a yes/no vote, which would you pick? I don't believe it's right either, that's why I'm not gay, but I wholly support gay rights. and 4. PS: I'm sorry to say, but that doesn't improve our odds much! lol -------------------- |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 00:36
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I hope I don't get banned for this or flamed but I tend to flip flop on this because I have my own sexuality issues being I am trans gender and have been fighting it for a long time. I for the most part have to say I do believe it is wrong to be homosexual/transsexual.
I'm not hateful towards anyone that is homosexual but I disagree and and feel that rather than bombarding them with hateful words or gestures to pray for them as my faith teaches me to as well as praying for myself. Though some of my friends say I've been brainwashed by my church of which I could take that as hate against my faith but I don't. I just think that sometimes people get too offended over words and stereotypes if you believe in a god your stereotyped as being hateful often when it is just the way people are raised. Me my God of which I'm not going to say what faith I am teaches that you should pray for those who are wrong not badger hate or hurt them. But what I'm trying to say is that it can go two ways I don't hate homosexuals but I'd say that it shouldn't be made a big deal if people disagree as long as no one is pushed to the brink of being hurt or hurting themselves. and that is all I'll say on the point. -------------------- I treasure those who I love that love me in return. <3 |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 01:35
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Quote In news today, Anchorage's mayor vetoed a ban against sexual orientation discrimination. The absolutely crazy thing about it is that his reason for the veto was that it was "unclear if such discrimination exists". I can understand that the majority of people reacted in opposition to his bill, but to claim that it's unclear that sort of discrimination exists is absolutely ridiculous. In 60% of US States, there is no anti-discrimination law for HOUSING, meaning that if my landlord wants to evict me as a gay man, he has the right on that basis alone. And even if that discrimination DIDN'T exist, couldn't declining to add a provision for protection be seen as a green light for such discrimination to begin? When an issue like that is brought into the limelight, and people suddenly realize that there's no law against it, that's opening up a largely potential can of worms. Saying that he doesn't know if such discrimination exists is largely different from him saying that such discrimination is wrong, but if he DOES believe that it's wrong, there is absolutely no reason for such a law to be passed. This is just so messed up... I think the idea that you can simply "ban" discrimination is one of the most pointless things ever. Regardless of what government tends to wish, they can't control people's thoughts and beliefs (however stupid), which tend to be the source. I see why a lot of churches don't want to allow homosexuals etc. to get married. After all, marriage is something that has been defined by the church over the last, well, 1500 years. At the same time, there's no way a gay etc. couple should be denied the legal rights that married couples enjoy. Also, they should certainly be allowed to enter into a civil union through a judge, like some traditional couples do. I think intolerance is so shallow. A person should be judged on their qualities (or failings), not on things like this. If someone wants to be homosexual etc., go for it. I only hope that they have thick skin to deal with the crap they get for it. -------------------- Currently Playing : Final Fantasy V Most Recently Beat : Elder Scrolls: Skyrim Favorite Game : Final Fantasy X The newest CoNcast is up! Have a listen! |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 01:55
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Quote (Death Penalty @ 18th August 2009 21:35) I see why a lot of churches don't want to allow homosexuals etc. to get married. After all, marriage is something that has been defined by the church over the last, well, 1500 years. There is separation of church and state though, and them refusing to legally marry someone steps over that boundary. So maybe the only option is to take legal unions out of the church completely. -------------------- |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 03:23
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Well I admit that some of what I said was confusing. so...
Yes they deserve equal rights. They should have the legal rights of a married couple but taking away the rights of a church of any religion to say no this is not going to happen because we believe it is wrong. That is going against the fact that there is a separation of church and state something that should not be messed with when I have been living the transgender life of which I believed that I was a lesbian woman I still believed the church should not be messed with by the government because. No matter what religion you are unless atheist (no offense) you can agree that if government got involved with church as far as homosexual rights go what would be next is the right to believe in a single god as in Christians would have to believe in Allah and Muslims in Jesus or basically it would lead to war possibly nuclear and possibly the end of the world as we know it . Therefor you can be homosexual but don't expect churches to like it cause it's like saying (bad analogy but) an African American trying to join the clan or some other hate group or a Caucasian American trying to join a hate group that hates white people. Just ain't gonna happen. And if all else fails there are some Christian denominations that accept homosexuality. So in the end it kind of all works out if you think about it. -------------------- I treasure those who I love that love me in return. <3 |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 11:28
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Quote (seraphimdreamer777 @ 19th August 2009 03:23) Therefor you can be homosexual but don't expect churches to like it cause it's like saying (bad analogy but) an African American trying to join the clan or some other hate group or a Caucasian American trying to join a hate group that hates white people. Just ain't gonna happen. So.... Christianity is like the KKK? Yeah, it is a bad analogy While religion is pretty much the sole reason that homophobia (and racism.... and caste systems.... and... well, I could go on) exists it's not an establishment set up ONLY to hate and persecute a group (Westboro Baptist Church, AKA God Hates Fags) non-withstanding) And no, forcing people to accept gay marraige wouldn't cause a world war And saying "Forcing CHurches to allow gay marraige will lead to forcing everyone to worship Allah or so on" is just silly Forcing equal rights does not mean taking away the equal rights of who to believe in, why would the government, after going "You must accept gay marraige", suddenly then say: "Oh, and you're Muslim now so suck it up"? |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 15:23
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This homosexuality "issue" is a joke. The fact that this is even a debate is ludicrous. There should not be a question as to whether or not to allow these people the same basic rights and privileges that all others receive and often take for granted. What Neal shared in this thread is deeply troubling and completely ridiculous.
The idea that marriage has been a singular, defined process since it's conception, or that it should not or cannot be changed is completely wrong. There was a time where a man could not marry outside his skin colour, or outside his class. In some places currently, a man can marry several women. This is perfectly acceptable, but for a two men or two women to be wed is a "hot topic"? Let's not even touch the absurdity of the idea that being homosexual is a "sin". I really don't think religion should even be involved in this debate. If anything should be kept in the closet, it should be the invisible people you worship and not who you love. I understand that there are still plenty of people who are squeamish at the idea of two men or two women together, or because of their beliefs, cannot support the idea of it, but what these people have to realize is that this is not about them. They need to get over themselves and put their petty prejudices aside. This post has been edited by Dragon_Fire on 19th August 2009 15:24 -------------------- Okay, but there was a goat! |
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Posted: 19th August 2009 18:04
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Quote (Dark Paladin Danny @ 19th August 2009 07:28) So.... Christianity is like the KKK? Yeah, it is a bad analogy It was a bad analogy. While the Ku Klux Klan is a radical sect of Christianity that continues to survive, despite the atrocities they have committed and have endorsed, they do not represent all of Christianity. It is the same as considering anyone who is a Christian to be like Hitler, who was a radical Christian that killed Jews because, according to his speeches, he felt that God willed it. Edit However, I am sure, Dark Paladin Danny, that that was not exactly what seraphimdreamer777 meant. seraphim was probably trying to make the point that I'm about to try and make. It is wrong to group all of religion under that banner, but it is nevertheless important to understand that religious sentiments are a major force behind this topic. I often feel the way that Dragon_Fire felt. Why is there even an issue about this? Why is there even a debate? If you listen to people who oppose gay marriage, they will often say something like "I feel" or "I believe," just the way Miss California did. But she was Constitutionally wrong by saying that she does not support gay marriage because she believes it is wrong. The First Amendment grants us protection from the domination of other people's beliefs, how is what she said different from imposing the Christian or Islamic doctrine on non-believers? That is why there's a debate. Religious people obviously support what they believe, while we believe that they are suppressing people's rights in doing so. So both parties feel hurt, as they believe we are trying to destroy God. But I think that is rather foolish. This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 19th August 2009 18:06 -------------------- |
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Posted: 22nd August 2009 00:31
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As I am a very tolerant and fair person, I fully support homosexuality. First off, it is simple "not right" to thread people bad because they have a other sexual orientation, 2nd, most of those anti-gays are stupid and idiots - or very religous. And last but most importantly, many people are against homosexuality because THEY dont like it or because they feel it nasty. Well...those guys dont have to be homosexual as I am not, they dont have to watch homosexual porno films, it is just a stupid question of taste - Which it shouldnt be EVER.
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Posted: 22nd August 2009 09:23
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The problem is,america is mostly catholic and religion breeds ignorance and intolerance.
It has been seen in the past and you can still see it. If i were you in such a town i would keep it to myself,because only person who's gotta deal with it is you,its your life its your problem. The hell with the rest of em if they don't like it -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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Posted: 22nd August 2009 13:04
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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 22nd August 2009 05:23) The problem is,america is mostly catholic and religion breeds ignorance and intolerance. You almost could have made some sort of point if you'd only known that Christianity does not equal Catholicism. As it is, it just looks again as if you're posting about things you don't understand. -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 22nd August 2009 19:00
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Well, I would believe that most Christians in the U.S. are Protestant. But I don't really trust polls either way, because they don't really tell the truth.
Quote If i were you in such a town i would keep it to myself,because only person who's gotta deal with it is you,its your life its your problem. That is sort of the issue here. Gay people don't want to keep it to themselves. Society forced them to hide who they truly are, and now they want equality. And it's not just their problem, as if we continue that attitude, these people will continue to not have rights they deserve. It is our problem because we could be persecuted too someday in the future. It is a slippery slope; we allow one injustice, another will rise up. -------------------- |
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Posted: 23rd August 2009 06:58
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Quote (Rangers51 @ 22nd August 2009 13:04) Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 22nd August 2009 05:23) The problem is,america is mostly catholic and religion breeds ignorance and intolerance. You almost could have made some sort of point if you'd only known that Christianity does not equal Catholicism. As it is, it just looks again as if you're posting about things you don't understand. christians and catholics are pretty much the same. They both treat jesus as the son of god And mary as a virgin. And yeah i mixed up things a bit. The big one is christianity. And those wo are the keepers of religion try to say they have all the answers do this do that. Then say stuff like mankind is 5000 years old? where did you get that numeral? http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_date.htm wtf? http://successbydesignltd.blogspot.com/200...is-mankind.html And to prove how ignorant some people are: http://www.godhatesfags.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQuW2v6U2o&feature=fvw Just proves that people like raine here have it hard. I'm sorry man This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 23rd August 2009 07:02 -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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Posted: 23rd August 2009 12:42
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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 23rd August 2009 06:58) Quote (Rangers51 @ 22nd August 2009 13:04) Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 22nd August 2009 05:23) The problem is,america is mostly catholic and religion breeds ignorance and intolerance. You almost could have made some sort of point if you'd only known that Christianity does not equal Catholicism. As it is, it just looks again as if you're posting about things you don't understand. christians and catholics are pretty much the same. No, no no Catholics are a version of Christianity, Christianity is an umbrella term Under Christianity are Catholics, Protestants, Quakers, Escipalian (Is that the right word?) and more |
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Posted: 23rd August 2009 15:54
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Catholics are a version of Christianity, Christianity is an umbrella term
Under Christianity are Catholics, Protestants, Quakers, Escipalian (Is that the right word?) and more [/QUOTE] Still,there are alot of fanatics in america today who still preach hate and intolerance,my point is that raine goes about his business and if they ask yes he says he's gay and then says:you got a problem? well tough luck,go back to preaying to your stupid god before i break your nose. At least that would be my attitude My problem with the church has to do with they talk about feeling good and spiritual and all that and yet there are those who piss me off who preach that they have all the answers in the world,don't mistake it with me saying all,i never said everybody. And ontop it is because of the fanatics that horrible attrocities have arisen,like terrorism and the diaspora and the spanish inquisition. This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 23rd August 2009 16:00 -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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