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You'd best be frozen!

Posted: 24th May 2009 21:08

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Well, the first time I came across this message I was in the Floating continent, fighting those clown guys that really look like Kefka. So, they use a spell (was it N. Cross or S. Cross? I can't seem to tell them apart. Besides the fact that one kills you and the other one freezes you) and one of my chars is frozen. The message appears: «You'd best be frozen!». Since those monsters were clownish, I thought they were mocking me. But as I fought other vile beasts, I discovered that this particular message appears every time you get frozen.

A simple question, guys.
What the hell is «You'd best be frozen» supposed to mean?

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Posted: 24th May 2009 21:18

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Honestly, I have no idea why the programmers placed that particular message in there. I think they were trying to be funny (rather, trying to make the enemy seem nonchalant about nerfing you).

I can tell you Northern Cross inflicts 'Freeze' status and that casting a fire spell on your character will remove the condition.

I hope that helps.
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Posted: 24th May 2009 22:15

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Well, the status itself was never a problem for me, as it wears off fairly quickly. What upsets me is the message. Quit mocking me, stupid monster!

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Posted: 24th May 2009 22:45

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I think its more of a random saying... Has no meaning whatsoever.....

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Posted: 25th May 2009 01:12

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Quote (Toransu Kuja @ 24th May 2009 22:15)
Well, the status itself was never a problem for me, as it wears off fairly quickly. What upsets me is the message. Quit mocking me, stupid monster!

Well, you could use Air Anchor in some of them, maybe it'll make you feel better.

Got to love Woolsey.

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Posted: 25th May 2009 15:47

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I also love Woolsey's work. It's got a flavor to it, and he definitely puts in the time and effort to make his work good.

Also, I think S. Cross is a fire attack, for what it's worth.

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Posted: 25th May 2009 18:23

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Quote (Toransu Kuja @ 24th May 2009 21:08)
A simple question, guys.
What the hell is «You'd best be frozen» supposed to mean?

Thank you.

That's pretty funny.

Well, that's supposed to be funny, and it's supposed to be funny and annoying.

But I think it serves another purpose. It tells you that you're frozen. I don't even think there's an indicator that you're frozen, is there?

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Posted: 26th May 2009 01:12

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But I think it serves another purpose. It tells you that you're frozen. I don't even think there's an indicator that you're frozen, is there? 

I remember the sprites turning blue. That, or you'll find out when one of your characters stays there doing nothing.

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Posted: 26th May 2009 02:47

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But I think it serves another purpose. It tells you that you're frozen. I don't even think there's an indicator that you're frozen, is there? 

I remember the sprites turning blue. That, or you'll find out when one of your characters stays there doing nothing.

Yeah, I thought so. It's just a joke then.

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Posted: 26th May 2009 17:48

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Personally, I always thought it was just some egotistical prick rubbing his success in my face. Which made it that much more entertaining when I smashed his face in the following round.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 00:25

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In the BGA version( i guess im gonna be the GBA guy now) when yer frozen thers a thing on the top letf of the screen that says "Frozen!"
That and affected party members turn blue.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 01:33

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Quote (Bilbo T Baggins @ 28th May 2009 20:25)
In the BGA version( i guess im gonna be the GBA guy now) when yer frozen thers a thing on the top letf of the screen that says "Frozen!"
That and affected party members turn blue.

Is this text box of the same sort as you'd get when dialogue pops up during a battle?

And does this happen every time you're frozen, or just with certain enemies?

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Posted: 29th May 2009 02:04

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 29th May 2009 01:33)
Is this text box of the same sort as you'd get when dialogue pops up during a battle?

And does this happen every time you're frozen, or just with certain enemies?

Yeah, it's a in-battle textbox, and I believe it happens everytime you're frozen.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 04:06

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yea Blitzsage is right-on. jeez...i thought I was the GBA guy...
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Posted: 29th May 2009 10:47

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The frozen spell is one of the worst in the game. i've died iin many battles because they froze my characters up and i couldnt move. it happens a lot in the final 3 battles before kefka.

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Posted: 30th May 2009 03:55

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I absolutely hated this! I would always mock this phrase. Ugh. Awful memories.

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Posted: 30th May 2009 13:30

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Quote (regalcrown @ 29th May 2009 10:47)
The frozen spell is one of the worst in the game. i've  died iin many battles because they froze my characters up and i couldnt move. it happens a lot in the final 3 battles before kefka.

Er.. umm... use fire? And have at least one character with a ribbon.

When it reeeeally bothers me is when this or petrify happen in the coliseum.

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Posted: 30th May 2009 17:19
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Quote (Sandyboots @ 30th May 2009 07:30)
And have at least one character with a ribbon.

Ribbons don't have freeze immunity. Nothing does. Cold Dust itself is an unblockable spell, so if it can apply the status, you're going to be frozen.

N. Cross is another story since it can be blocked and is programmed to randomly miss on its own, even if it's otherwise guaranteed to hit because of Clear status. That may seem silly, but since there aren't any monsters immune to it either, the random miss factor is necessary to keep Doom Drgn Rage from being worse than NightShade (otherwise you could just Vanish/N. Cross everything without any resistance).

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Posted: 30th May 2009 18:45

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Quote (Master ZED @ 30th May 2009 17:19)
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And have at least one character with a ribbon.

Ribbons don't have freeze immunity. Nothing does. Cold Dust itself is an unblockable spell, so if it can apply the status, you're going to be frozen.

N. Cross is another story since it can be blocked and is programmed to randomly miss on its own, even if it's otherwise guaranteed to hit because of Clear status. That may seem silly, but since there aren't any monsters immune to it either, the random miss factor is necessary to keep Doom Drgn Rage from being worse than NightShade (otherwise you could just Vanish/N. Cross everything without any resistance).

Man, you really are the Master, wow. You know everything, you're on another level.

So, if everyonce is frozen, you just have to wait? And if Cold Dust and/or N. Cross hit, do they automatically inflict freeze?

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Posted: 30th May 2009 18:50

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Thanks!, I stand corrected. Can it happen that all your party gets frozen on the same turn? That wouldn't be fair at all.

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So, if everyonce is frozen, you just have to wait? And if Cold Dust and/or N. Cross hit, do they automatically inflict freeze?

Or that?

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Posted: 30th May 2009 20:25

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N. Cross and the like have a CHANCE to freeze. So yes, your whole party could freeze if it hits, but if not, a simple Fire will thaw them.

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Posted: 30th May 2009 20:52

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Frozen status can't be blocked, but if you have a non-frozen character, they can use a fire-elemental attack to thaw their allies. Otherwise, you have to wait (read: survive) until the timer on it expires. It lasts quite a while.

I once played with a game-genie code that let you change which spells were Strago's Lores, and I found that putting Cold Dust into the range for Lores (thus letting you freeze enemies) was one of the funnest things I found. Sure, you could just use Fallen One (which cannot miss) to take them to 1 HP, but, I dunno, freezing the enemies seemed so much funner.

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