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Posted: 17th April 2009 02:27

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So “The Complete” finally arrived at my doorstep *is happy*. However much to my dismay I can't find anything that looks like a timeline or anything that resembles Figaro's backstory.+ Granted, I don't know Japanese, but the book is full and I mean full of pictures, in-game pictures. In fact the book is a visual walkthrough.

And to not make this topic a total waste, here's how The Complete manages the WOR events or “After breakdown the world” as the book calls it. On a side note, the guide uses Celes as the avatar for all the WOR.

Sabin
Terra A
Edgar
Setzer
Terra B
Bum Rush
Cyan
Shadow/Relm A
Cyan's dream
Relm
Shadow
Talk to Lola
Gau's father- Wait, when did we get Gau?
Strago
Ancient Castle
Hidon
Locke
Umaro- Wait, when did we get Mog?
Ending

Personally I go more or less with this order, just that I get Mog and Umaro way earlier and do Cyan's dream latter. Oh and I get Gau before Relm and do the dress-up sequence until I have the complete party... Wait, where's Gogo?

So, what about you?


+If someone knows in which part of the book it is, I'll be forever grateful.

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Posted: 17th April 2009 04:19

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All I can remember is that I got Sabin before getting both of the other two necessary characters (I think before either of them, as well, so I had only Celes to use in Sabin's sidequest), and that I got Umaro before Gogo. And of course, necessarily Mog before Umaro.

And I think I got everyone before getting the two of them. Except possibly Locke, since he has arguably the most complicated sidequest.

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Posted: 18th April 2009 02:43

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 17th April 2009 04:19)
All I can remember is that I got Sabin before getting both of the other two necessary characters (I think before either of them, as well, so I had only Celes to use in Sabin's sidequest), and that I got Umaro before Gogo.  And of course, necessarily Mog before Umaro.

And I think I got everyone before getting the two of them.  Except possibly Locke, since he has arguably the most complicated sidequest.

I always get everyone before Umaro and Locke. I do agree about Locke's quest though.

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Posted: 22nd April 2009 15:33

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I played through WOR almost exactly as the guide on this site told me to happy.gif . Except I did Kefka's Tower a lot later because it's hard as hell, and I needed Moogle Charm and to learn Fire 3/Bolt 3/Ice 3 etc.
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Posted: 22nd April 2009 21:00

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I played through WOR almost exactly as the guide on this site told me to happy.gif . Except I did Kefka's Tower a lot later because it's hard as hell, and I needed Moogle Charm and to learn Fire 3/Bolt 3/Ice 3 etc.

Anybody know where you get Tiger Fangs in the Tower?

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Posted: 23rd April 2009 01:23

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Yeah, Phoenix Cave is such a pain that I like to leave Locke until the end, but then I think about all those battles I'm missing that could serve to uncurse certain shield that I end up getting him as soon as I have enough characters.

I like to do my first run on every game without looking at a guide. Consecutive plays I do look for one and try to get everything I missed on my first run. That cost me Shadow and the Moogle Charm, it was so much fun getting to Magic Master and eat an Ultima without it.

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Anybody know where you get Tiger Fangs in the Tower?
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Posted: 23rd April 2009 19:32

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Yeah, Phoenix Cave is such a pain that I like to leave Locke until the end, but then I think about all those battles I'm missing that could serve to uncurse certain shield that I end up getting him as soon as I have enough characters.

I like to do my first run on every game without looking at a guide. Consecutive plays I do look for one and try to get everything I missed on my first run. That cost me Shadow and the Moogle Charm, it was so much fun getting to Magic Master and eat an Ultima without it.

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Anybody know where you get Tiger Fangs in the Tower?
You can? I had no idea.

I think you steal it from an enemy, but I don't know which one. I have one and I'm using Dragon Claw in the other hand.

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Posted: 24th April 2009 04:50

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well dont forget the Tiger fangs in The Veldt Cave

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Posted: 24th April 2009 15:16

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I think you steal it from an enemy, but I don't know which one. I have one and I'm using Dragon Claw in the other hand.

You picked my interest so I went to look at some guides. According to them, Tiger Fangs can be stolen from GtBehemoth found outside Kefka's Tower and they're also a drop from Allo Vers which are found on the Cave in Veldt, as tesco mentioned. The last option is betting a Fire Knuckle in the Colisseum.

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Posted: 24th April 2009 23:52

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I think you steal it from an enemy, but I don't know which one. I have one and I'm using Dragon Claw in the other hand.

You picked my interest so I went to look at some guides. According to them, Tiger Fangs can be stolen from GtBehemoth found outside Kefka's Tower and they're also a drop from Allo Vers which are found on the Cave in Veldt, as tesco mentioned. The last option is betting a Fire Knuckle in the Colisseum.

Thanks alot. I remember hearing that name before. That'll help alot.

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Posted: 25th April 2009 09:09

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I WOUDLN'T get mog/umaro! They're tras!!

I like CEles, though. SHe's a hass!


Srsly, though, I'd pick only the ones I like. If you don't have a cool story, SEE YOU NEXT TIME BUT I LIKE MY FOLKDS!!! plus Terra's morph was boss.

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Posted: 25th April 2009 15:48

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Thanks alot. I remember hearing that name before. That'll help alot.

No prob wink.gif

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I WOUDLN'T get mog/umaro! They're tras!!

I can sympathize about Umaro, but Mog? The Moogle Charm is too good to pass up, especially for those multi-party dungeons. I like to recruit everyone if only for completion sake.

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Posted: 25th April 2009 17:40

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I can sympathize about Umaro, but Mog? The Moogle Charm is too good to pass up, especially for those multi-party dungeons. I like to recruit everyone if only for completion sake.

I'd second that opinion. Except that I only use the Moogle Charm in the Fanatics' Tower. I generally prefer that my characters have around the same experience level as each other, so especially for long extended dungeons, I want them to fight about the same amount of monsters.

(My characters were levels 45-51 when I beat the game.)

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Posted: 25th April 2009 18:08

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Thanks alot. I remember hearing that name before. That'll help alot.

No prob wink.gif

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I WOUDLN'T get mog/umaro! They're tras!!

I can sympathize about Umaro, but Mog? The Moogle Charm is too good to pass up, especially for those multi-party dungeons. I like to recruit everyone if only for completion sake.

Heh, sorry about that post :/

I do agree, Mog is pretty invaluable only for that charm. But honestly, his special ability kind of flukes out a lot, and I don't like Umaro's unreliability. If everyone but him is dead or petrified, you'd better hope he can make it through the battle- probable, but sucks if you needed the EX or Magic points.

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Posted: 26th April 2009 02:57

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Thanks alot. I remember hearing that name before. That'll help alot.

No prob wink.gif

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I WOUDLN'T get mog/umaro! They're tras!!

I can sympathize about Umaro, but Mog? The Moogle Charm is too good to pass up, especially for those multi-party dungeons. I like to recruit everyone if only for completion sake.

Heh, sorry about that post :/

I do agree, Mog is pretty invaluable only for that charm. But honestly, his special ability kind of flukes out a lot, and I don't like Umaro's unreliability. If everyone but him is dead or petrified, you'd better hope he can make it through the battle- probable, but sucks if you needed the EX or Magic points.


But Mog is the game's mascot! He's on the cover box!

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INSANE AMOUNT OF NOOB COMING UP. lolwuts "The Complete"?

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INSANE AMOUNT OF NOOB COMING UP. lolwuts "The Complete"?

Hey now, don't call yourself a noob! The Complete isn't a well know subject, if fact I brought it thinking it had somewhat different content.

THE COMPLETE―ファイナルファンタジー6

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Has characters bios, the basic stuff: weight, height, likes and dislikes, blood type, etc. It also includes a list of abilities when it applies, like rages or lores. Besides the main characters there is also info for Banon, Leo, Kefka, Gestahl, Cid and our dear pal the Train Ghost. From here comes the info that Kefka likes to play with dolls. Sample

But it's mostly a complete visual walktrhough.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 01:26

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Wow.

So, it's basically, everything that a setting-obsessed fan could wish for.

Since you seem to be providing scans, I'll assume you have this--do you happen to know enough Japanese to give us an overview of what details are available about the Train Ghost (and, for that matter, whether it differentiates between the two different train ghosts)?

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Posted: 29th May 2009 04:03

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Where could a find "The Complete"? And is their an english version? lol ive gotta budget... IM ONLY 14!...so yea...i currently have about $20.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 15:30

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The easiest way to break the curse on the shield is to go back to the island that Celes starts on, and fire up a second system on a different tv. Or call people over and party with one hand on the controller.

They really need to release a copy of that in English. Hardcover would be fantastic. I'd pay $50-$75 for it easy.

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Where could a find "The Complete"? And is their an english version? lol ive gotta budget... IM ONLY 14!...so yea...i currently have about $20.

Don't think there's an English version to my knowledge.

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So, it's basically, everything that a setting-obsessed fan could wish for.

Since you seem to be providing scans, I'll assume you have this--do you happen to know enough Japanese to give us an overview of what details are available about the Train Ghost (and, for that matter, whether it differentiates between the two different train ghosts)?

Nop, don't know Japanese, I'm just a “setting-obsessed fan” =P
But here's the Pic if you're interested, Banon, Leo and Kefka included.

What?!, no age or blood type for the Ghost?, that's disappointing. Oh, but look!, there's two of those circles that I think are charts of each character stats. So if my assumptions are correct, one ghost sucks more than the other...Nah, I truly don't know, but it would be interesting to compare their stats to see If I'm not too off.

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?????, more commonly known by its job, Ghost, is a temporarily playable character in the game Final Fantasy VI. There are three Ghosts, which differ only in their starting level.

Uhmm...

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Where could a find "The Complete"? And is their an english version? lol ive gotta budget... IM ONLY 14!...so yea...i currently have about $20.

Considering it's a book from before you were born (darn I feel old), it's more likely to find it used than not. I use Amazon Japan, but you can find some on E-bay too. The books aren't expensive, there are ones that go for 1yen, the problem are the shipping costs.

There's no English version, or at least I don't know if the American game guides contain the same info.

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You could just print out Djibriel's whole walkthrough and then tape the papers of his text over wherever there is Japanese writing.

I'm sure his info is more complete than that book.
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You could just print out Djibriel's whole walkthrough and then tape the papers of his text over wherever there is Japanese writing.

I'm sure his info is more complete than that book.

O' RLY?

And from where do you think Djibriel got his character background info from? I agree, his guide is awesome, but some of the data in the book is nowhere found within the game. Some of this extra tidbits come from this kind of books or the V-Jump magazines.

It's not that easy, like I said, it's a visual walktrhough, meaning you have maps of all the places with coordinates , pointing go from Ax-1 to Ba-2, here you find a treasure, something like that. And as far as I can tell the book is extremely “complete” (lulz).

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You could just print out Djibriel's whole walkthrough and then tape the papers of his text over wherever there is Japanese writing.

I'm sure his info is more complete than that book.

O' RLY?

And from where do you think Djibriel got his character background info from? I agree, his guide is awesome, but some of the data in the book is nowhere found within the game. Some of this extra tidbits come from this kind of books or the V-Jump magazines.

It's not that easy, like I said, it's a visual walktrhough, meaning you have maps of all the places with coordinates , pointing go from Ax-1 to Ba-2, here you find a treasure, something like that. And as far as I can tell the book is extremely “complete” (lulz).

This topic has come up many times before, in fact I believe that I have started one once before. The book isn't in English at all, which confounds me why they wouldn't have translated it into English as well. I'm sure they could've made quite a lot of money off of that. But oh well, the pictures are neat.

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Posted: 30th May 2009 13:33

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It is a pity it isn't?, but I guess Square doesn't care enough about their pre-FVII games. Maybe a fan-project?

The only thing I could find is this:

Info on Kefka from the “Cult of Kefka” livejournal community.

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It is a pity it isn't?, but I guess Square doesn't care enough about their pre-FVII games. Maybe a fan-project?

The only thing I could find is this:

Info on Kefka from the “Cult of Kefka” livejournal community.

Wow that's cool. That's more in depth than I thought, they even know his blood type.

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Posted: 30th May 2009 18:55

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Has characters bios, the basic stuff: weight, height, likes and dislikes, blood type, etc.

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Wow that's cool. That's more in depth than I thought, they even know his blood type.

I feel ignored cry.gif

But anyhow, seems like the Final Fantasy Wiki also has that data on some characters, like Cyan's article.


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Posted: 30th May 2009 19:19

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Has characters bios, the basic stuff: weight, height, likes and dislikes, blood type, etc.

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Wow that's cool. That's more in depth than I thought, they even know his blood type.

I feel ignored cry.gif

But anyhow, seems like the Final Fantasy Wiki also has that data on some characters, like Cyan's article.

Oh sorry, forgot about that when I posted. That's cool. I wonder why they came up with those bloodtypes.

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Quote (BlitzSage @ 30th May 2009 15:19)
I wonder why they came up with those bloodtypes.

In Japan, blood types are apparently a (superstitious/informal/whatever you call it) determinator of personality.

I don't know why. I think they're a relatively recent and scientific discovery, so I don't know how that got into a culture's lore, but...it's there.

(Also, you can edit how much of a person's post you quote, y'know.)

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