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1. Yes, he's old, but it still takes him almost a minute to use Sword Tech. Old, yes, but he should still be one of the best, not THE slowest.

Of course, but then again, Terra is a half-esper she should be one of the best!, Celes was a top general of the empire she should be one of the best!, Strago is of magi decent, he should be one of the best!, Shadow is a ninja, ninjas are the best!, and I could go on.

Also you forget than in JRPG-land little girls can kick your butt many times over and seasoned generals suck because they are older than thirty. Unfair and unreasonable, yes, but that's sadly the case many times.

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2. Most of what I said about Sabin is just ranting. I want him to use swords because... well... I like swords. Can't help it. They're awesome.

Welcome to Cornelia! =D

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But I'm thinking a little change would be good storyline-wise. Gameplay-wise he's top tier already.

Except his weapon and armor selection aren't that good.

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I don't mind him being dumb or brash at the beginning, but I think his character could develope into an intelligent leader of the group.

Wait, wha? Why? How? I respect your opinion, but I'm going to have to disagree entirely in here, of course, that's also just my opinion.

I adore Sabin, he is one of my favorites, and I like him just because of that. He is simple minded, not dumb. Yes he is brash, but that's part of his charm, he was always like that and I think he's not going to stop anytime soon. Somewhere I read that Sabin was like he said, a “bear” and I can't find a better world, he is all tough and strong but at the same time he has a favorite tea and flowers.

Sabin was born a leader yet he refused it, he choose his freedom instead, why? He hated all of the political mumbo-jumbo. And... I'm going with the advance version of the script, because in this aspect is so much better, from the ending:

Sabin: It's not like I wanted to dump all that responsibility on you. I knew you'd look out for the kingdom. I wanted to be able to look out for you. That's why I went off to become stronger.

This guy spent years training so he could protect his brother, Isn't that just cute, cute, adorable? AHEM, sorry for the fangirl rant., I'll stop now.

But the leader of the group?, All the time I was waiting for Terra to stop being insecure and lead the group, like a good “main character”(open for debate) and she did, even if for a little while, she leaded the confrontation with Kefka and leaded the scape out of the tower. And there's also Celes, she started to reunite the group after the Floating Continent. So why Sabin?

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3. I don't think everyone should use magic. That would 1) make it unique, and 2) be truthful to the storyline, since magic supposedly is extinct at the beginning of the game.

Uniqueness is achieved via the personal skills and customization via espers and relics. While I like my characters to be special, I'm also a sucker for customization, so it's the perfect balance for me, something between FF4 and FF5.

What about the whole Esper World arc?, what would be the point of the Magitek facility, of Cid research? Kefka killing all those espers? The whole point was to seize the espers power, your team stands a chance without Terra (their last ray of hope) because they had the espers help. I'll repeat myself, magic was the key to winning the war.

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Two answers, since I know not how to quote.


Sandyboots:

I know I'm a weird player. But why do you say so?


Gigantuar:

I didn't knew that at the time. I was more worried about saving the rest of a party from a gruesome, gruesome death. And I really don't like fixed dice. Takes leveling.

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Two answers, since I know not how to quote.


Sandyboots:

I know I'm a weird player. But why do you say so? 

You can use the “quote” that is on the upper right corner of every post. There's also a button in the "code buttons". And you can use [QUOTE] Message here [ /QUOTE] (Just remove the space between the “[“ and the “/”.

Well, is that I'm used to see a different kind of “tier list”. Like:

Terra/Celes – The Minerva is broken, they can wield the Illumina and their magic is not bad. The general consensus is that morph>runic, because while runic is useful in some bosses, morph can be of use in all.

Mog/Gau/Edgar/Locke – Locke has the Valiant knife and can wield the Illumina as can Edgar. Edgar and Mog benefit the most from the dragoon set-up. Mog and Gau have the snow muffler = max defense. This is assuming that you bothered on getting some nice rages for Gau, if not, move him a tier down.

Shadow/Setzer/Sabin/Relm/Strago – Shadow has throw and Interceptor. Setzer has fixed dice. Sabin has great strength, sadly his most powerful blitzes use magic, which is pretty low for him so he needs those esper bonus. Relm has the highest natural magic score in the game, she's basically a mini Terra/Celes but without Minerva. Strago has decent magic and lores. All of them are below the others mainly because of their equipment.

Cyan – Sword-tech is s-l-o-w. Average armor selection, one of the worst magic scores in the game. You could make a case for the Kazekiri but it's too random like Gau rages, the difference is that Gau can act as a defensive unit and Cyan can´t.

Gogo – The jack of all trades, but he can't equip espers. So his stats stay where they are, no room for improvement, except the natural hp/mp and damage with levels.

Umaro – He can't benefit from esper bonus, you can't control him and you can't change his weapons or armor.

Keep in mind that this isn't my opinion, but the junction of what I commonly find, this is not exact and I probably messed up around somewhere but it gives you an idea.

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Gigantuar:

I didn't knew that at the time. I was more worried about saving the rest of a party from a gruesome, gruesome death. And I really don't like fixed dice. Takes leveling.

Ah, I see. Well, I probably wouldn't have known either if I hadn't checked it on the internet..
But the nice thing about the fixed dice is that it's random, but high damage!

I like Edgar. He's a beast with the Chainsaw.
He's also really funny.
I also see some of myself in him...)i.e. hitting on countless girls and never getting any, hes a techno geek, etc.)
He's a natural leader, becuase HE"S A KING.

This post has been edited by Bilbo T Baggins on 20th May 2009 15:06

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I like Edgar. He's a beast with the Chainsaw.
He's also really funny.
I also see some of myself in him...)i.e. hitting on countless girls and never getting any, hes a techno geek, etc.)
He's a natural leader, becuase HE"S A KING.

Sabin's way better. He should be king.

Why? I don't have to have a reason, this is a rant. Rants don't have to have any facts, but I'll give you some just because.

1) We don't need leaders associating with Terrorists. If he's hiding a secret alliance with the rebels, what else is he not telling us?

2) I'm pretty sure that Edgar probably pulled a Clinton once or twice, if you know what I mean (actually, strike that, I respect him for that). But either way, you can't run a kingdom while chasing tail all time time, and that leads to #

3) He didn't run the kingdom. I'll use the Letterman quote about Bush.

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It's like the country has been shut down for four years.

When was Figaro attacked? Under Edgar's reign.

See, Sabin could be like Obama for Figaro.

Edit

Actually, Edgar is really great. I wish they would've gave the Figaro twins a bigger part. That's my real rant.

I took this part out. Why do I have to apologize? Sabin is better.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 21st May 2009 18:21

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Edgar - His personality is the one that matches mine the closest, and is almost completely accurate. Gameplay wise, if you take all the characters that can use the huge endgame swords (Illumina) and level them to 50 without esper upgrades (which is a massive pain in the backside, but worth it to win a bet.) Edgar has the highest Vigor. (Think Terra, Celes Edgar, Locke, but excluding Cyan)

Gau - Was my favorite as a kid, mainly because I was the "wild child" of all my friends. Never wore shoes when I could help it, so on and so forth. Plus, assuming you go through the game without stopping to level to 80+, his capabilities are amazing, with little cost. I personally get Mog after I get Gau, and with Moogle Charm, run straight up through the fanatics tower and kill the White Dragon. With 2 Hero Rings, his phys and mag pwr is nice, and just supplement the two attacks (Fight and Pearl) with Esper stat increases, and he rocks.

Relm - She was just fun to play around with. Her dialogue with Ultros, priceless.

Honestly my least favorite character had to be Locke, only because he was either useless or overpowered. Low level, he was junk, but if you slap Bahamut on him, gain 15-20 levels, and put on Genji Glove/Offering and Atma Weapon/Valiant Knife, ugh... 8 attacks at 9k plus... Was only fun for farming elixirs off of Ultros

As an aside, and this is again saying you are going through the game with out powerleveling(pl'ing), then Umaro is a great character. With some decent relics, he hits hard, and because the game auto attacks asap, his damage is always maximum. Take the time to get his rage ring and blizzard orb, and he is very versitile. Or, if you want raw single target damage, swap the blizzard orb for a gauntlet, and watch him embarrass Sabin in melee dmg

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Sabin's way better. He should be king.

OH NO!, You didn't just put me in ranting mode!... *gasp*, ok, I'll try to calm down.

Sabin: Let's leave this place! Let's forget this crazy kingdom, and live our lives how we want to!
Sabin: You said you didn't want to be a king, right?
Edgar: A life of freedom, huh...?
Edgar: ...What do you think would happen to Figaro if both of us left?
There'd be no one to take the throne. Dad was counting on us to care of the kingdom...

Who decided to leave Figaro behind?, Who didn't want to be king?, who didn't want to bear all the burden?, who opted for his freedom and forgot everything else?

Who was the one that sacrificed his freedom because he felt he owned something to his father and his kingdom, and more importantly wanted his brother to be happy and free of all remorse?

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1) We don't need leaders associating with Terrorists. If he's hiding a secret alliance with the rebels, what else is he not telling us?

The same “terrorists” that saved the world?, and Sabin is also part of.

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2) I'm pretty sure that Edgar probably pulled a Clinton once or twice, if you know what I mean (actually, strike that, I respect him for that). But either way, you can't run a kingdom while chasing tail all time time, and that leads to #

I actually think that adds a little realism, Henry VIII anybody?

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3) He didn't run the kingdom. I'll use the Letterman quote about Bush.

Yes, then forming political alliances with your enemies without them finding out you're also plotting against them, while keeping a steady kingdom doesn't count.

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When was Figaro attacked? Under Edgar's reign.

And surprisingly Figaro is one of the only places to survive almost unscratched to Kefka reign. And why?, because Gerad/Edgar got enough motivation and smarts to save it.

Sabin: And you're a king crab!
Edgar: Sabin... Do you think Dad would be proud of me?
Sabin: Don't you ever doubt that! I'm sure he's beaming with pride, wherever he is.

I love them both, but honestly, Sabin doesn't have what it takes to be a king. He says so himself, what more do you want?

SABIN: I didn't turn my back on the kingdom, big bro. I knew you'd be a better king.

But seriously, do you honestly think someone that asks why people sing in an opera to be a better ruler than a genius engineer?

This post has been edited by Sandyboots on 22nd May 2009 00:43

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Sabin's way better. He should be king.

OH NO!, You didn't just put me in ranting mode!... *gasp*, ok, I'll try to calm down.

Sabin: Let's leave this place! Let's forget this crazy kingdom, and live our lives how we want to!
Sabin: You said you didn't want to be a king, right?
Edgar: A life of freedom, huh...?
Edgar: ...What do you think would happen to Figaro if both of us left?
There'd be no one to take the throne. Dad was counting on us to care of the kingdom...

Who decided to leave Figaro behind?, Who didn't want to be king?, who didn't want to bear all the burden?, who opted for his freedom and forgot everything else?

Who was the one that sacrificed his freedom because he felt he owned something to his father and his kingdom, and more importantly wanted his brother to be happy and free of all remorse?

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1) We don't need leaders associating with Terrorists. If he's hiding a secret alliance with the rebels, what else is he not telling us?

The same “terrorists” that saved the world?, and Sabin is also part of.

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2) I'm pretty sure that Edgar probably pulled a Clinton once or twice, if you know what I mean (actually, strike that, I respect him for that). But either way, you can't run a kingdom while chasing tail all time time, and that leads to #

I actually think that adds a little realism, Henry VIII anybody?

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3) He didn't run the kingdom. I'll use the Letterman quote about Bush.

Yes, then forming political alliances with your enemies without them finding out you're also plotting against them, while keeping a steady kingdom doesn't count.

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When was Figaro attacked? Under Edgar's reign.

And surprisingly Figaro is one of the only places to survive almost unscratched to Kefka reign. And why?, because Gerad/Edgar got enough motivation and smarts to save it.

Sabin: And you're a king crab!
Edgar: Sabin... Do you think Dad would be proud of me?
Sabin: Don't you ever doubt that! I'm sure he's beaming with pride, wherever he is.

I love them both, but honestly, Sabin doesn't have what it takes to be a king. He says so himself, what more do you want?

SABIN: I didn't turn my back on the kingdom, big bro. I knew you'd be a better king.

But seriously, do you honestly think someone that asks why people sing in an opera to be a better ruler than a genius engineer?

That was one of my first rants that i LIKED. Kudos to you Sandyboots...Awesome name btw....


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Why doesnt anyone like Terra?
She may be whiny or whatever, but equipped with the genji glove, offering, illumina and atma weapon shes almost unstoppable. Also considering she is half esper! And her magic is just as powerful as Celes.

Gau is useless and gathering all his rages is sooo tedious

Sabin's blitzes are my favorite special skill out of everyone!
Along with Gogo's mimic ability!

General Leo is the best thought haha

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Why doesnt anyone like Terra?
She may be whiny or whatever, but equipped with the genji glove, offering, illumina and atma weapon shes almost unstoppable. Also considering she is half esper! And her magic is just as powerful as Celes.

Gau is useless and gathering all his rages is sooo tedious

Sabin's blitzes are my favorite special skill out of everyone!
Along with Gogo's mimic ability!

General Leo is the best thought haha

i really like her. I think it's because she's sort of overshadowed by Celes. She is really powerful.

Sandyboots, don't speak anymore.

You too, Baggins.

I agree somewhat, but have you ever heard of a reluctant leader? Sabin spent the entire game learning Blitz, and now he is ready.... Revolution!

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That was one of my first rants that i LIKED. Kudos to you Sandyboots...Awesome name btw.... 

;_; Thank you, it's the first time someone appreciates my rantings. I try to avoid them because I think nobody likes to read them, but sometimes my fangirlism gets the best of me.

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Why doesnt anyone like Terra?
She may be whiny or whatever, but equipped with the genji glove, offering, illumina and atma weapon shes almost unstoppable. Also considering she is half esper! And her magic is just as powerful as Celes.

Actually, I think Terra starts with more Magic than Celes, and Celes has the edge on strength. It is often agreed that Terra is the most powerful character in the game. Besides Terra and Celes switch in the whiny department with the WOR.

Add me to the list of people that likes Terra. A strong female “protagonist” = awesome.

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Sandyboots, don't speak anymore.

You too, Baggins.

I agree somewhat, but have you ever heard of a reluctant leader? Sabin spent the entire game learning Blitz, and now he is ready.... Revolution!

Wha? You want to shut me up because I speak the truth. But you'll never get me, I'm FREE! =P

Somewhat I got the impression you like this imaginary Sabin that is smart, a great leader and uses swords...which sounds much like Edgar, but you don't like Edgar, so what gives?

Why like Sabin and not accept him the way he is? The Sabin I know would never take the crown, the Sabin I know has favorite flowers, tea and dishes, the Sabin I know is a kick ass martial artist that loves and respects his big brother, he is simple minded and punches the hell out of anybody that makes him angry. That's the Sabin I know and love, and I wouldn't have him any other way.

The fact Sabin doesn't fit the king role isn't a bad thing, it's just part of his character, he's just too pure and brash to be a diplomat. Likewise, Edgar would utterly fail as a monk.

Mmm, somewhat I feel like I'm repeating myself...

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Sandyboots, don't speak anymore.

You too, Baggins.

I agree somewhat, but have you ever heard of a reluctant leader? Sabin spent the entire game learning Blitz, and now he is ready.... Revolution!

Wha? You want to shut me up because I speak the truth. But you'll never get me, I'm FREE! =P

Somewhat I got the impression you like this imaginary Sabin that is smart, a great leader and uses swords...which sounds much like Edgar, but you don't like Edgar, so what gives?

Why like Sabin and not accept him the way he is? The Sabin I know would never take the crown, the Sabin I know has favorite flowers, tea and dishes, the Sabin I know is a kick ass martial artist that loves and respects his big brother, he is simple minded and punches the hell out of anybody that makes him angry. That's the Sabin I know and love, and I wouldn't have him any other way.

The fact Sabin doesn't fit the king role isn't a bad thing, it's just part of his character, he's just too pure and brash to be a diplomat. Likewise, Edgar would utterly fail as a monk.

Mmm, somewhat I feel like I'm repeating myself...

Okay, Ms. Boots, you've called me out. You've questioned me.

Yeah, the swords were over the top, and him breaking character is wrong too, but I have said it in the past, that I think he has received a bad wrap. Listen to the some of the dialogue that was retooled makes him sound like an udder idiot.

Perhaps I took it too far the opposite way, since I want to be a writer/filmmaker/storyteller when I start my career (I graduate Tues. btw), I breathe too much into it, and I create extra stuff. I guess that I'm thinking about what would happened if you continued the story. But I love Edgar. I guess that if I was telling the story they would be different, but that is not right to really right to say. Then again this is a rant.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 23rd May 2009 02:14

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Yeah, the swords were over the top, and him breaking character is wrong too, but I have said it in the past, that I think he has received a bad wrap. Listen to the some of the dialogue that was retooled makes him sound like an udder idiot.

That's my peeve man. Why try to change a character that works the way he is? He makes me laugh when he says something that's not clever, it's cute and part of the fun.

It's like if I were saying that I don't like Edgar going around hitting on every woman he sees, and that I would have written him differently. Yes, it sometimes bothers me that he is such a womanizer, but no way in hell would I change him, that's part of what makes him what he is, he wouldn't be the same otherwise. In fact that was what called my attention at first.

Think about it from this point: Flaws add flavor to a character, perfect ones are IMHO boring. Take away Sabin's s-m-r-t-s and Edgar's flirting and what do you have left? Two awesome kind and good looking guys that can do no wrong, and they are twins! And royalty! OMG!1!!

Terra's insecurity, Cyan's anger, Locke's klept...err...treasure mania? This traits make the characters more human, more believable.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm thankful that Sabin is a meathead, and don't believe it's bad wrap at all. Everybody has their qualities and defects.

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Perhaps I took it too far the opposite way, since I want to be a writer/filmmaker/storyteller when I start my career (I graduate Tues. btw)

Congratulations and good luck! I'm starting in the movie business myself, but not in the writing department.

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I breathe too much into it, and I create extra stuff. I guess that I'm thinking about what would happened if you continued the story. But I love Edgar. I guess that if I was telling the story they would be different, but that is not right to really right to say.

Of course it is understandable, every fan does so, and that's why we have fanfiction, so hurray!

Can we just agree that the Figaro bros rule for whatever reason we have and drop it?

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What I'm trying to say is that I'm thankful that Sabin is a meathead, and don't believe it's bad wrap at all. Everybody has their qualities and defects.

I understand his flaws, but in the original he was brash, but he was witty and at least he knew what was going on...

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Locke: Terra...
Terra: I'll do it.
Sabin: I'm not entirely sure I understand the plan...but what the hey! This sounds like it'll be fun!

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Locke: Terra...
Terra: I'll do it!
Sabin: What nonsense! You sound as if you're enjoying this!

In the original version, he makes a comment that seems to poke fun at the others for showing over excitement (which can be picked up through the use of Terra'suse of exclamation points).

While the new translation makes him sound completely stupid. Now, I understand that all of them have faults, but come on, Terra's insecurity? Sabin's idiocy?

He is supposed to be a martial arts-trained hero of the world. Not to mention that they completely change his demeanor (in the original, they act overly excited. This changed and it makes him sound like the dumbest one in the room, and most in there aren't even named characters!)

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Can we just agree that the Figaro bros rule for whatever reason we have and drop it?

Yes, completely. I don't want to argue, especially if we go into the same industry, lol.

Truth be told, I've been arguing the same b.s. since I started CoN, and I'm just as tired of it.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 24th May 2009 01:47

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You do realize that the GBA script is closer to the Japanese original?

I recommend reading Lina's Darkstar fan-translation at Icy Brian's, there are some interesting stuff in there, it adds another dimension to everyone. I wish I knew japanese so I didn't miss all this, but alas, I'm too lazy.

http://www.icyforums.com/index.php?showtopic=4401&st=0

An sneak peak:

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––The first lost-in-translation bit is another part of Sabin's character development. When Terra's deciding whether or not to join the cause:
SABIN: You can trust [Edgar], TERRA... But don't you DARE tell him I said that!
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Mash: I think you can trust him too. Oop, but don't tell him I said that-- I'd get embarassed.

What the verb "to get embarassed," also "to feel bashful," does here is add another point to the idea that Sabin's really the "younger" brother, the subordinate to Edgar. It adds a little bit of cute to Sabin's overall character.

It's like Sabin and Mash are totally different people. I think I get you now, I stayed with the idea of Mash in my head while you talk about Woolsey's Sabin, which is totally valid, personally I like his Kefka better.

This post has been edited by Sandyboots on 24th May 2009 03:37

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Like you said, I guess it's pointless to argue about, because I don't know how to speak Japanese, so I guess I don't even know how his character was really supposed to be. I don't know.

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All arguments are pointless, but yeah, when we are practically arguing about two “different” characters is too much.

Like I said, I don't know Japanese either, but I like to search every bit of information I can, and build something out of all the sources available. You're missing things sticking with only one perspective.

I feel like Lina did a wonderful job with her translation, and her comments are also fun to read.

There's also this one: http://members.fortunecity.com/kwhazit/trans/ff6/index.html
It has a very nice format, unfortunately it isn't complete.

There are others, but some are just literal translation and miss the localization process, something that Woolsey did very well, but his version is not without flaws.

And also, if you want to learn more about Sabin, and if you haven't done so please check the poor topic:

http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...opic=10914&st=0

I feel like I'm the only one watching over it now.

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I have something of an obsession with chivalry, honor, knights, samurai, bushido etc. so Cyan has always been a favorite of mine, that, and I always found him just 'fun' to have in your party which I know puts me in a small minority but nevertheless I found the whole strategy involved in sequencing the other characters and their attacks right in order to make time for him to charge up his sword techs to be very fun, somewhat challenging and ultimately very rewarding.

Shadow/Clyde is of course another favorite of mine, as is Locke, but I just have an obsession with the dark 'lost soul' type characters for some reason; always have. Another reason I like Shadow/Clyde in particular is because due to how loose and mysterious his past/origin is it leaves a lot of room for the imagination and for writing; s'why I love using him as a character in my fanfic so much. Locke too since so many of his actions in the game point to the possibility of him being 'unbalanced' and I'm fascinated by psychosis' in all of their forms; especially so, being a bit of a crazy person myself xP.

And, of course, Kefka; I have a whole manifesto on why I adamantly believe he is the greatest villain in anything, ever; I could write an essay on why I adore Kefka but I'm not going to put any of you through that xP, suffice to say; he personifies villainous awesomeness as far as I'm concerned.

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I have something of an obsession with chivalry, honor, knights, samurai, bushido etc.

Me too. I love the Middle Ages. I think that's why I like FF. I think what makes me love FFVI is that it is anachronistic. You have Cyan, the honarable warrior. And then you have the steampunk Vector and Imperial soldiers. It's just a glorious mix of fantasy elements.

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And, of course, Kefka; I have a whole manifesto on why I adamantly believe he is the greatest villain in anything, ever; I could write an essay on why I adore Kefka but I'm not going to put any of you through that xP, suffice to say; he personifies villainous awesomeness as far as I'm concerned.

That's for the Kefka forum!

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I have no set fav of the game really...Just characters that i never use.....like Cyan...I so hate getting beat on while i wait for any one of his more powerful skills to power up. Later in the game I use Gogo ALOT as he can have anyone's skills and there by be three characters at once. I always make my 3 "Generals" in the final battle as follows:


Terra....that morph ability makes her unstoppable with a genji glove and a black belt equipped.



Edgar....Lets face it....That chainsaw is awsome



Relm.....Genji glove and a black belt...That and a wide selection of spells...Celes or Sabin could fill this slot for me the same way...

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My favorite characters in the game - regarding storyline and personality, not necessarily gameplay - are Cyan, Terra, Celes, and Sabin. In gameplay terms you can probably replace Cyan with Gau for my favorite party in the game. It's disappointing, but Cyan is one of the worst characters in battle, unless you have get all glitchy and psycho.

Actually cyan is overkill in power,but in order to do so you have to level him up with bismark and also you need to kill rexsoul.

Rexsoul is in doma castle in the world of ruins and appears in a dream of sorts and once you kill him you get quadra slice wich is the most powerfull tech in the game in my opinion.

Bum's rush is also extremely powerfull for sabim,but hard to use on a keyboard,in fact all of sabims techs are really hard to pull off on a keyboard.


The worse i think are:umaro and setzer.

Mugu mugu NOO!!! no more mugu mugu please!!! he's a awesom character but getting the right slot can be hard.


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Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 24th June 2009 09:11)

Actually cyan is overkill in power,but in order to do so you have to level him up with bismark and also you need to kill rexsoul.

Rexsoul is in doma castle in the world of ruins and appears in a dream of sorts and once you kill him you get quadra slice wich is the most powerfull tech in the game in my opinion.

This is not correct. After you leave Cyan's Dream he learns Cleave, which is perhaps the most useless of all the Sword Techs. It takes ages to charge up and does no damage against bosses. Quadra Slice, the level 7 tech, is learned naturally by him at level 44. However, after completing this side quest, any sword techs that are not unlocked will be unlocked. This is likely what happened in your case.

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Cyan - Probably my overall favorite character. Just seemed like a badarse all around + cool name.

Edgar - Ladies man + awesome attacks with "tools" like a drill and saw.

Sabin - Black-sheep little brother of Edgar + Kung Fu master = awesome character. Gets negative marks for his blister inducing Blitz moves.

Shadow - A ninja - need I say more? LOL

I like to get as many espers as possible let every character master them and then choose my party based on abilities attack power and other more arbitrary reasons such as

Locke will always go with Celes

Shadow would stay with Relm and Strago too

Sabin Cyan and Gau would hang out

Mog and Umaro because Umaro would want to stay with his Boss

Setzer and Edgar they just seem to be the types to get on swimingly

Terra and Gogo neither of them talk very much

My favourite party is

Sabin those blitzes were awesome
Celes for her Runic Ability
Locke because he was savage could steal and would always follow Celes
Cyan because He has a mustache and called everyone Thou... I did say my reasons were arbitrary

It would be REALLY cool if you could get Kefka or someone like him on the team

Also anything cute/fuzzy/small cute and fuzzy generally MURDERS SAVAGELY AND HE DANCES MOG IS THE BOMB!Buuuuuut I can never make space for him in my party as I HATEHATEHATEHATE Umaro

This post has been edited by R8.50 Mango on 26th June 2009 13:36

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