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Posted: 30th January 2009 22:38
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Quote (FallingHeart @ 29th January 2009 01:59) When I first saw this one it seemed like one of the closest matchups I can remember of these, but the most enjoyable part of these for me is finding loopholes and stuff. So, considering the fight is taking place in Spira, then the traditional rules of the farplane, pyreflies, etc. apply. Meaning Auron is already dead, and because Mitsurugi probably can't perform a sending I don't see Auron really capable of losing in the fight. That with is combination of magic potential and flaming alcohol tornado makes him my pick. Except that you were never very good at it. There are several loop-holes in your loop-hole. For one, being in Spira and a "dream" does not render one unbeatable, even if they are already dead. Case in point, the various battles against Seymour wherein he was -not- sent afterward, simply overpowered, and could not retain his form. Similarly, were this true, he would not be able to be defeated in random battles, boss battles or any manner of fight in-game at all, which we know is not the case. Certainly, they would be able to return, but not instantly and absolutely not ready to continue combat. Another problem with this is that you assume he will have the time to use his overdrive, after all it was not something he could do on command. Auron has well-documented issues with fighting quicker enemies and generally leaves such foes for Tidus or Wakka, focusing his own strength on the high-hp or heavily armored enemies. Well, Mitsurugi is hardly a slow combatant. His opponent has no such issues and is much more versatile. The samurai is quicker, better trained and has much more experience in a fight than Auron does. MG referenced the Art of War, but that works against his own point too. Certainly, knowing your battleground yields an advantage, but before that, there is knowing your enemy and his weaknesses, which with Auron, are obvious. Mitsurugi wins this fight because he is a better swordsman, more experienced, faster, much more versatile and equally as crafty. -------------------- Okay, but there was a goat! |
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Post #175133
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Posted: 5th February 2009 02:35
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The results of last week's fight:
Two katana wielding badasses enter, one leaves. And then the other one leaves after being declared the winner. Voter Distribution CoN Crew: 7 - 4, Auron LiveJournal: N/A FaceBookies: 3 - 1, Auron Ready AIM Fire: 9 - 6, Auron Team Target: 4 - 1, Auron Google Fight: +1, Auron Total: 24 - 12 This week's winner is Auron. A lot of creative and inspiring thoughts on this fight. Keep it up. This week is our first "special request" fight... well, in a manner of speaking. Jess, my girlfriend, recently explained dismay that she hasn't been able to participate in any of the fights so far, for having not known one of the characters or the other. So this week, I whipped up a fight that gets her approval. And it will get yours as well. Don't worry, it's still a doozy. (But apologies for repeat game, but hey, it probably won't be the last Soul Calibur character to come anyone, so...) In the RED corner... lonely orphan gone noble... ![]() Talim Where you've seen her: yet another premier character from the Soul Calibur series. Endearing, compassionate, and far too young to be considered a viable fighter. Yet Talim relishes in these to make her a devastating fighter in her quest for the Soul Calibur. Her quick agility and startling strength make her a force even Mitsurugi and Nightmare have to consider threatening. Forget about Annie, this is the little orphan girl with a plan. And her opponent... In the BLUE corner... rock 'em sock 'em brawler ![]() Asuka Kazama Where you've seen her: Throwing her weight around in Tekken 5 Asuka is relatively new to the Tekken world. But her heritage already gives her enough to live up to. She runs in the same line as Jin, Jun, Heihachi, and by proxy, even the demonic Jinpachi. So she has fighter in her blood. Her high flying kicks and evasive cartwheels will send her opponents to their graves. How this fight came to be: Talim protects the other orphans from thieves and goons. But when she came to investigate the latest intruder, she may have bit off more than she can chew. Battle Tactics: Because of her dual-wielding weapon, Talim has the upper hand. Her hits will sting longer and hit harder. She also has the ability to soul charge to magnify her strength temporarily. She'll have to be quick on her feet to secure the win. Though Asuka chooses to fight glove handed, she can easily make up for it. She's quicker, more agile, older, and more fighting experience than her adversary. Her combos are lethal, and it just takes one triple-kick to ensure a painful demise. Setting: the Windmill Odds: Talim in a third round KO. Research Asuka all out destroying some.. grizzly bear thing... (YouTube) Talim demo of SC 2 (YouTube) -------------------- "When I turn the page The corner bends into the perfect dog ear As if the words knew I'd need them again But at the time, I didn't see it." ~"This Ain't a Surfin' Movie" - Minus the Bear |
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Post #175203
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Posted: 5th February 2009 02:37
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Talim has cool looking sword dagger things. Thats a win for me.
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Post #175204
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Posted: 5th February 2009 03:09
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Those sword dagger things are bladed tonfas. But to hell with this. In a Namco battle, who wins? A teenager that won't STFU about the wind, or a kitten-loving teenager that may or may not possess the building-destroying Devil Gene? Well, they're both really, really annoying, but I'll vote Asuka.
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Post #175205
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Posted: 5th February 2009 07:15
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While Asuka is definatly hotter, I'm going to put my money on Talim. She was my favorite fighter in SCII
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Post #175206
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Posted: 5th February 2009 08:51
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IIRC, Asuka is Jin's cousin on his mother's (Jun's) side and therefore a practitioner of Kazama purification arts.
I can't recall, where Talim was from, but for all I know, she's a shaman and also a purification specialist. That's why how this fight came to be is a bit far fetched for me, but hey, let's run with. On to the fighting. The physical: Talim is agile, quick, tumbles a lot and has a tendency to try and confuse her opponents. Also, she uses tonfa blades, which will deal a lot of hurt even if they're only used to block. Asuka also has some mixup and confusion tactics and some fair speed up her sleeves, but most of all, due to practicing the Kazama style, she's a specialist in reversals - she puts her opponennts strenght to her own use. The mystical: The Kazama lineage gives Asuka a considerable amount of power, heck, her presence alone was enough to turn Jin back into human form when he was a Devil. Talim, while not inherently as powerful, has honed her mystical abilities to supreme levels and she supposedly does have enough skills to destroy the Soul Edge itself via purification. The mental: Here's where this battle is actually decided - Asuka is hot-headed, reckless and has a tendency for direct aggression, rendering her reversal skills, the only real chance here, practically useless. Talim, on the other hand, is calm, collected and tries to avoid hurting others if it is possible. However, any attacker that she thinks might hurt the orphans she's protecting will be swiftly and efficiently eliminated, apologised to and buried. So yeah, I vote Talim. This post has been edited by SilverMaduin on 5th February 2009 12:56 -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Post #175207
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Posted: 5th February 2009 09:08
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Quote (SilverMaduin @ 5th February 2009 03:51) I can't recall, where was Talim from, but for all I know, she's a shaman and also a purification specialist. She's from the Philippines. Her name means something in one of the native languages there (I assume Tagalog?) and my Filipino friend plays almost exclusively as her for country of origin alone. -------------------- |
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Post #175208
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Posted: 5th February 2009 12:33
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Talim has Asuka pretty well beaten in the weapons department. Kicks and punches can't really compare with kicks and punches with blades. Since they're fighting in a windmill, Asuka would only be able to use either a heavy cog or a sack of grain to even the scales. Not likely in my opinion. I say Talim wins.
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Post #175210
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Posted: 5th February 2009 13:59
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Talim.
No matter how you look at it, she's so agile that Asuka won't even know what's going on. She's also stronger and more determined if she's protecting the orphans. No way Asuka could win this one. -------------------- You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one... |
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Post #175211
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Posted: 12th February 2009 01:06
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The results of last week's fight:
I guess it really doesn't matter if you have the devil gene or not, if you bring just your clenched fist to a knife fight (er... tonfa fight), you'll get wrecked. Voter Distribution CoN Crew: 5 - 1, Talim Livejournal: 1 - 1, tie Facebookies: 4 - 1, Talim Ready AIM Fire: 8 - 3, Talim Team Target: 4 - 2, Talim GoogleFight: +1, Talim Total: 23 - 8 Your winner, Talim. Looks like she has the power of the ... WIIIIIIND! ... to thank for her victory. Moving onto this week. If you want black magic and voodoo, you've got it. We have two dark sorcerers ready to lock horns in what is sure to be a battle down to the last spell. So grab your circular framed glasses, finish your last plunder of Mysidia, and cancel the quidditch match: it's fight time! In the RED corner ... eternal scourge of Hogwart's ... ![]() Voldemort Where you've seen him: You read about him in the novels and watched him terrorize in the movies, all related to Harry Potter. Ah, snap! The evil lord plaguing the world of J.K. Rowling's increasingly popular series is our first combatant. There's a reason he's feared by every single wizard from Hogwarts and across the world: he's that powerful. A vicious display of evil incantations and torrid black magic resonates from him. A wrecking ball of magic, and a sizable foe for anyone. And his opponent... In the BLUE corner ... the dark conniving puppet master of Baron ![]() Golbez Where you've seen him: The omnipotent antagonist of Square's Final Fantasy IV, in all it's formats (II us, hardtype, Chronicles, Advance, DS, etc.) The soundsystem rattles with his own personal, gothic music theme playing as he enters. Golbez is eternally clad in his darkness, consoled only by his abhorrent dark arts. He blisters his opponents with black magic, but Golbez is also amazingly resilient in the face of it himself. He took several beatings from Cecil and his team, and has even withstood the brunt of Meteor without so much as a scratch. His heart as black as dark as his armor, Golbez lives up to his reviled reputation How this fight came to be: What does an evil sorcerer want more than anything? More power. By one defeating the other, their energy is absorbed. Imagine Voldemort with the power of Meteor. Imagine Golbez with the power to terrorize Hogwarts. That's what's on the line here. History: Golbez has actually made an appearance in WNF before. In late November, he battled Ganondorf... a battle he ended up losing. Does history play a part in this fight? Battle Tactics: Voldemort has a lot of craft up his sleeves. Powerful lightning magic, fire magic, even evil tricks like mind enrapturing. He has a great deal of trickery, which makes his skill all the more effective. Golbez is not agile by any means (who could be wearing the armor and drapery he wears?) so he'll probably take more hits than his opponent. But his surprising resilience has already been noted. If he can take a couple shots while unloading a couple of powerful lightning or ice combos, he'll be all the better. Setting: WNF Arena, neutral ground. Exceptions/Reminders: I stated in the initial post, but feel I shall reiterate. This is melee style battling. So don't take into consideration HP or MP or anything like that. Odds: Vegas likes experience, and it's Golbez who holds more evil experience in this bout. Golbez by 6. -------------------- "When I turn the page The corner bends into the perfect dog ear As if the words knew I'd need them again But at the time, I didn't see it." ~"This Ain't a Surfin' Movie" - Minus the Bear |
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Post #175350
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Posted: 12th February 2009 02:34
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Look, you're gonna wise up real quick and start calling him he-who-must-not-be-named if you know what's good for you. Sure, Golbez is a Lunarian, and gets some sort of super power under a yellow sun (wait, do I have that right?); but let's talk about a dude so evil that he is re-created from his minion's hand, his own dad's bones, and his arch-enemy's fresh blood. Now THAT is hardcore.
Let's also consider that Golbez isn't even a bad guy at heart, just a puppet. If you think that Voldemort is anyone's little marionette, you're off your friggin' gourd. He wasn't even out of control when he was stuck on Quirrell's head, for crying out loud. This leaves no doubt. Snake-head carries the day. Seriously. Look at that face. -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Post #175355
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Posted: 12th February 2009 02:43
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Volde-DON'T SPEAK HIS NAME, no contest.
For one, Golbez's magic is limited to his dark spells whereas Volde---The Dark Lord's library contains curses and counter-curses, jinxes, hexes, spells and don't forget all those nifty perks of being the heir of Syltherin himself. Golbez, as Josh said, was just a puppet. He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is cunning, cruel and without any form of compassion at all. In every sense of the word, he is a monster. Even if, for the sake of this fight, the killing curse does not work, Crucio and Imperio will pretty much ruin the Lunarian, and we know he's susceptible to mind control! Finally, don't forget horcruxes. The Heir of Syltherin is essentially unbeatable so long as this aspect of his magic remains in play, not that it's needed for him to beat Golbez anyways. In terms of ability and sheer power, the Dark Lord wins. Editted: I foolishly uttered his name and the dark mark was spotted shortly in a nearby neighborhood. I fear for my life. This post has been edited by Dragon_Fire on 12th February 2009 03:13 -------------------- Okay, but there was a goat! |
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Post #175356
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Posted: 12th February 2009 02:59
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Look, Golbez might be one powerful moon-guy, and he might even have something similar to Avada Kedavra in his shadow dragon, but I have to give it to the artist formerly known as Tom Riddle. His known repertoire of spells is completely insane, his list of followers is loaded with other high-end dark wizards, and, as mentioned before, he's The Man in his evil organization while Golbez is merely the first lieutenant. My vote goes to the red corner (I'm not saying it, dood, I have a family).
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Post #175357
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Posted: 12th February 2009 08:28
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Voldemort.
Voldemort. Voldemort. There, I said it. Let him come. I'll kick his semi-reptilian behind any day of the week. Golbez obviously won't. I could rattle on about spell repertoire, Voldy's totally broken survival system, speed advantage etc., but that's been said already. What I want to say, is that the fight with Golbez isn't the final boss fight of FF4, heck, it's about mid game, while Voldemort is the absolute final Boss of the Harry Potter series. P.S. There is one way for Golby to win: he'd need to have his mother sacrifice herself to save him. Edit P.P.S. When I saw Voldy as the first contestant I honestly thought he was going to go up against Kefka, which would be a hell of a lot of a better matchup. methinks. This post has been edited by SilverMaduin on 12th February 2009 09:44 -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Post #175360
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Posted: 12th February 2009 12:23
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My money's on he-who-must-not... From past battles with the likes of, well, the strongest wizards in the Harry Potter universe, he would probably teleport away from harm, turn Golbez' cape into fiery snake of some sort, and kill him with his evil curses; correction, unforgivable curses. That's not even bringing the multiple lives factor into this equation. Golbez is going to take a battering.
FFIV spoilers here. Possible spoilers: highlight to view Having said that, maybe Golbez' redemption would play some part in this battle? Good will triumph over evil won't it? No? Probably not, since this is a dark magic fight. -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Post #175362
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Posted: 12th February 2009 12:40
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He who must not be named, but I won't give any reasons because repetitiveness can be really annoying.
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Post #175363
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Posted: 12th February 2009 15:21
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Golbez is sooooo going to die...
No matter how strong or resilient he is, he's not going to survive simple transfiguration. He-who-must-not-be-named can simply turn him into anything and step on him. Or use any of the unforgivable curses on him. Or... Heck, there are so many ways The Dark Lord can inflict pain and cause death that there's no point in saying that because it makes me sick, he's that kind of monster. It was nice knowing you, Golbez. -------------------- You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one... |
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Post #175366
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Posted: 12th February 2009 19:31
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I'm gonna go against the flow and vote Golbez. I'm sure I won't get much support, but I think many people underestimate him.
I got two words for you. Lunar Curtain. Even without it, I think Golbez could put up one hell of a fight. If he can stand up to a Meteo, it means he's tough. Not only that, but I'd guess his armor isn't just for looks. I'm sure it's magically enchanted to make him able to survive powerful magic attacks. If you've ever tried casting Toad on Golbez, I'm sure you know he is immune to any kind of transfiguration. Voldermort was foiled by a couple of kids. Golbez was never actually defeted by the heroes. Even when they were able to foil some of his plans, it came at a huge cost. In the end, he decided to try to redeem himself and help fight against Zemus. Not to mention the Four Fiends > Deatheaters. Avada Kedavra couldn't kill Scarmiglione, when he's already dead to begin with. -------------------- "And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise |
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Post #175372
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Posted: 12th February 2009 21:25
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This is legitimately a tough match up. I like both characters, and dark wizards in general.
A lot of very convincing arguments have been made for Voldemort, and when I first saw the contenders I was immediately drawn toward the Dark Lord. Fadien, up above, also makes some compelling arguements in favor of Golbez, who is undoubtedly a veritable tour-de-force of magical whimsy in his own right. In the end, I feel compelled to give it to Voldemort. Grounds of dexterity. Not to say it wouldn't be an extremely hard won victory for him, but Golbez, while fully stocked with whoop-ass, just isn't fast enough. Now, if it were GANONDORF vs Voldemort, I would certainly give a loss to the latter. -------------------- If you've been mod-o-fied, It's an illusion, and you're in-between. Don't you be tarot-fied, It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean? ~Frank Zappa Sins exist only for people who are on the Way or approaching the Way |
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Post #175377
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Posted: 12th February 2009 22:29
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Quote Voldermort was foiled by a couple of kids. Golbez was never actually defeted by the heroes. Even when they were able to foil some of his plans, it came at a huge cost. In the end, he decided to try to redeem himself and help fight against Zemus. He wasn't beaten by a couple of kids, technically he was beaten by one. But anyone whose read Deathly Hollows (which seems to be everyone here) knows how that came about anyway. I strongly doubt that Golbez is the Heir of Gryffindor anyway. I'd like to go off more about how Voldemort is such a superb villain (though with an enraging, mediocrely-devised ending) but much of it has already been said. His power is just too incredible to put into words anyway. Quote Not to mention the Four Fiends > Deatheaters. Avada Kedavra couldn't kill Scarmiglione, when he's already dead to begin with. But there is great power in numbers. -------------------- I fear my heart and fear my soul Life goes on, it surely will, Without me and I wonder: Will I ever see light again? Life goes on... |
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Post #175378
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Posted: 13th February 2009 03:28
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Quote (Sherick @ 12th February 2009 16:29) Quote Not to mention the Four Fiends > Deatheaters. Avada Kedavra couldn't kill Scarmiglione, when he's already dead to begin with. But there is great power in numbers. Well, if you REALLY want to get into numbers, Golbez has them. An entire kingdom, complete with airships, a mad scientist, endless waves of guardians, a flying tower, and even a giant walking robot. I'm just sayin..... This post has been edited by Fadien on 13th February 2009 03:30 -------------------- "And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise |
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Post #175386
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Posted: 13th February 2009 22:38
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Volde has dementors
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Post #175416
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Posted: 14th February 2009 03:50
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Golbez can cast Meteo. Done.
Also, Voldemort doesn't even have the power of Candle Jack. I mean, Voldemort can't even stop you in mid This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 14th February 2009 03:56 -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Post #175436
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Posted: 19th February 2009 02:41
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The result of last week's fight:
Though many admitted it would be a "close fight", as I also would think, the numbers sure don't reflect that. A large majority found the same conclusion: that Voldemort (as I am a facilitator of this institution, I'm naturally immune from the heinousness of speaking his name) is just too freaking powerful. Voter Distribution CoN Crew: 9-2, Voldemort Livejournal: N/A (why I have amnesia about the LJ lately, I have no idea) Facebookies: 4-1, Voldemort Ready AIM Fire: 10 -4, Voldemort Team Target: 3 -2, Golbez Google Fight +1, Voldemort Total: 26 - 10 Your winner, Voldermort. And onto this week. This week's original fight had to be altered slightly because of a revelation I had as late as this morning. The original fight was to include rag-tag scoundrels Ratchet and Clank. But after realizing that their arsenal is bar-none on a different plane of existence, good enough to take damn near (debatable) ANYONE down (Ratchet and Clank vs. Voldemort? Hmmmm.), I scrapped the fight and essentially scrapped them from any potentially future fight. Which means they've effectively been retired. Their mighty arsenal makes them just too much for anyone to stay in a ring against. ![]() But I pose a question to you: all fighters who are retired are so basically because they've proven to be unstoppable in next to any situation, and thus they're put into the WNF Hall of Fame. The question is: without having fought anyone at all, and presumably not going to, should Ratchet and Clank be admitted to the Hall of Fame on that basis alone? For the sake of clarity, right now the Wednesday Night Fight Hall of Fame consists of 8 members: Wolverine, Link, Venom, Carnage, Magneto, the Hulk, Sephiroth and Darth Vader. Should Ratchet and Clank be number 9? So onto the real fight this week, we look in on some fun-loving brutes, each one dwelling in a different level of the genus spectrum. Here we go! In the RED Corner ... the rag-tag combo of brute and garishness... ![]() Jak and Daxter Taking a break from their investigation from the Precursors, the two swarthy heroes emerge into the Wednesday night routine. Teemed with several valiant weapons and agile tricks, they create a formidable duo. Granted that it's mostly Jak doing all the work while Daxter blathers on. But a potent force between them makes for a good fight. And their opponents, in the BLUE Corner ... monkeys of mayhem and merriment ... ![]() Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong As raucous and carefree a tag team as you can get. In the Donkey Kong Country series, these two matched wits with K. Rool, and always got the best of the overbearing croc. What they bring to the table is a well mixed pallet. Donkey Kong brings it straight up, no-frills brute force. We've all seen this on display in the Smash Brothers genre. Meanwhile, Diddy is more savvy, using effective cartwheels and well-timed slaps. As for matching up against their opponents actual weapons, let's not forget the pineapple bazooka and peanut pistols that DK and Diddy respectively wielded in DKC 64; plus all the barrels the Kong family has to offer. This well-balanced tandem will certainly take a lot to knockout. How this fight came to be: A talking weasel and his tall elfish friend? They could only be in the gang of Kremlings, DK mistakenly thought. History: Donkey Kong is making a return to the WNF spotlight after one fateful Wednesday night in 2006 when he squared off against the Juggernaut. An uneven fight, he took a beating at the hands of the behemoth. But with that history behind him, and with an opponent not as hulking, the punchy gorilla may look to avenge his stature. Tactics: Daxter would do well to get into the fight and keep his jaw from flapping uncontrollably. Jak is the most experienced fighter in this group. But he will have to be at his best to take on two advanced, irate primates. Donkey Kong will have to calculate his timing. Now wouldn't be a good time to rush into a brawl with fists flying without thinking. Meanwhile, Diddy might need more than just a cartwheel to take out the two. Setting: Where the jungle meets the plains, just outside the Kongs' hideaway. Odds: Vegas likes Jak, in spite of Daxter, to hang on. By 7. This post has been edited by Sabin on 19th February 2009 02:48 -------------------- "When I turn the page The corner bends into the perfect dog ear As if the words knew I'd need them again But at the time, I didn't see it." ~"This Ain't a Surfin' Movie" - Minus the Bear |
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Post #175590
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Posted: 19th February 2009 04:39
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I'm not sure if Ratchet & Clank should be permanently retired, but it's absolutely true that they would have completely annihilated either of the two competing teams. I mean, DK, Diddy, Jak, and Daxter? All at the same time? Two shots of a RYNO. Maybe three or four from a Heavy Bouncer or a Plasma Storm. Let's not even talk about Ratchet's piloting skills or Giant Clank. It wouldn't even be close. Smart move on your part, Bobbo.
But here, we have a game. In terms of firepower the pair from Naughty Dog are the winners. Eco guns, Dark Eco transformations, and armed vehicles are more than a match for a peanut gun, assorted barrel cannons, and the Kongs' menagerie of animal friends. However, when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, I think that the primates have the upper hand. Using their skillsets in Super Smash Brothers Brawl as evidence, these two simians are very effective in close quarters, while Jak and Daxter's (mostly Jak's) martial arts prowess equate to a few kicks, punches, and spins that are almost a joke compared to DK's mastery of chain throws and Diddy's insane rushdown. So for this fight, I'd have to wonder about the situation and resources. How confined or open is the arena? How much ammunition and Eco are available for Jak and Daxter? What manner of mounts and vehicles are available to each team? These questions can't be adequately answered, so I'll run it down to an intangible. When you talk about careers and experience, the duo from Nintendo's library of quality and not-quality stomps all over Jak and Daxter's measly four titles. Using experience and battle-hardiness as the biggest factors, I'll hand the victory to Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong. -------------------- |
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Post #175594
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Posted: 19th February 2009 07:04
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Sadly, Jak is basically alone on this, against two oponnents who would have been a hard match even one-on-one. Basically, if Diddy could slow him down enough, and he could, for DK to smash Jak's face in, they win.
So, yeah, the Kongs win. As to Ratchet and Clank, I'm pretty sure they'd lose to at least TWO other duos, both human: Gabe & Tycho and Bill Preston & Ted Logan. However, I have sometimes been wrong while being pretty sure of something, but still I say 'no' to Ratchet's and Clank's ascension to the hall of fame. Not without proving themselves. Also, has there ever been a WNF tournament WITHIN the hall of fame? -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Posted: 19th February 2009 07:49
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Link and Wolverine went at it, and it was hotly debated. ask the original WNF participants about it to hear the story.
i give it to jak and daxter. jak gets guns later in the series(and i'm guessing everything from their respective series is fair game). i'm really tired right now so i cant come up with a better argument than that. but yeah, guns. Jak & Daxter -------------------- moé in the streets, senpai in the sheets |
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Post #175600
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Posted: 19th February 2009 22:19
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Posts: 272 Joined: 5/2/2007 Awards:
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I like the kongs. The kongs are in brawl. I like brawl.
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Post #175625
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Posted: 26th February 2009 02:26
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The results of last week's fight...
Jak and Daxter had as much fun as a barrel of monkeys... which in this case, was not that fun at all. DK and Diddy tag teamed to take out the Naughty Dog duo. Voter Distribution CoN Crew: 3-1, Kongs Read AIM Fire: 10-8, Kongs Facebookies: 4 - 2, Kongs Team Target: 3 - 3, tie Google Fight: +1, Jak/Daxter Total: 20 - 15 Your winners... Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong Pound your chest in celebration, boys. Last week, at long last, Street Fighter 4 was finally released. This game series has been a personal favorite of mine even longer than a certain Squenix series has. Street Fighter's continued brilliance inspired this week's fight. But this is no ordinary fight this week... This is Super Wednesday Night Fight Turbo Alpha Max Gold! This week will feature the first mega-multi-fight of the year. Five characters from this classic arcade-turned-console progeny will square off against five characters from their biggest rival... Mortal Kombat! Fatality! ![]() Guile vs. Jax Clash of the militant forces. Jax totes a pair of unbreakable metal arms which, even though Guile's arms are tree trunks themselves, easily trump his enemy's. Guile probably has the bigger arsenal of moves and is more agile. Plus, the power of sonic boom will certainly help his cause. ![]() E. Honda vs. Bo Rai Cho The resident fatsos. Though to Honda's credit, his sumo skill has made him much more of a beef cake than his adversary. His palm slap of fury along with his astonishingly quick agility for a man so large gives him a reputation of dominance. But no selling Bo Rai Cho short. Though a portly man, his mastery of the drunken arts will keep Honda off balance. ![]() Chun Li vs. Kitana The starlets. Since the inception of Street Fighter, everyone has known one thing about Chun Li: watch out for her furious kicks. If caught in the whirlwind of her thunder thighs, all hell breaks loose (get your minds out of the gutter). But there's more to Li than just that move. She's very agile, and can surprise with brute strength. Meanwhile, the only thing Kitana's got going for her is the fact that she's a freaking ninja. That's never accomplished much, right? ![]() Cammy vs. Mileena The femme fatales. Easy on the eyes, but an absolute train wrecking force. Give Cammy a moment and she'll have her opponent wrapped up in her vintage grapples and vicious throwdowns. A torrid sweep kick is also key to her arsenal of moves. But can she take down Mileena? An evil clone of Kitana, Mileena has the ninja heritage in her blood. Though she may not be as graceful or agile, she makes up for it with her bloodthirsty nature. No mercy from either one of the competitors. ![]() Blanka vs. Reptile The freaks. Despite the girth of Blanka, the two are remarkably similar. Only difference? One produces electricity, the other spits poison. A real beastly fight going on here. Exceptions: Going by Street Fighter rules, which means it's a street fight. Therefore, no weapons for the Mortal Kombat crew. Hell yeah! Let's fight! -------------------- "When I turn the page The corner bends into the perfect dog ear As if the words knew I'd need them again But at the time, I didn't see it." ~"This Ain't a Surfin' Movie" - Minus the Bear |
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Post #175792
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Posted: 26th February 2009 02:35
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Posts: 619 Joined: 2/4/2004 Awards:
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Jax
Bo Rai Cho Chun Li Mileena because she is a crazy effing freak that scares the crap out of me Blanka -------------------- "We're not tools of the government or anyone else. Fighting... fighting was the only thing I was ever good at, but at least I always fought for what I believed in." - Frank Yeager (a.k.a. Grey Fox) |
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