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My personal favorite was always Judge Dredd because I used to be a big Stallone fan and the movie was my first experience with the character. I later read the comics and played the game for SNES. Both were pretty good. What's your favorite(s) and why?

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D'oh! I left out two of the best ever: Foundation by Isaac Asimov and the Haunted Earth by Dean R. Koontz. Those are some of the best sci-fi books written in their times and I would recommend to anyone who likes screwed-up future Earth stories.

This post has been edited by painreaver on 6th June 2008 22:58

I have strangely enough read, watched, or played them all, except for one or two, but I went with R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots) by Karel Capek as it was a pretty good story, and coined the term "Robot" even though in the story they were pretty disimallar to today's version, they were biological robots.

This post has been edited by MythrilShotgun on 7th June 2008 02:16

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George Orwell's negative "utopia" 1984 is the best ever. Huxley's Brave New World was really good, too.

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There you are again, laszlow, trying to sound smart. Some academic circles distinguish between anti-utopia and dystopia. A dystopia does not pretend to be utopian, while an anti-utopia appears to be utopian or was intended to be so, but a fatal flaw or other factor has distorted the intended utopian world or concept.
Does that make you feel better? You sound like my mother always correcting people. Nice, also, how you chose Fahrenheit 451, in which the resistance is predominantly "intellectuals"

Most people don't need to be condescended to, while others (who might actually be smarter than you) don't try to use their expansive vocabulary in an open forum simply because most/some people don't understand what they're saying. It's called knowing your audience. If your only desire by coming to a message board community is to show off and one-up everybody, then you are a very shallow "intellectual" indeed. Good day Sir!

This post has been edited by Calculate_Death on 7th June 2008 07:00

A "negative utopia" is usually called a dystopia. I think that's what this thread is asking about, but I wouldn't consider Foundation or R.U.R. that kind of material - they're just science fiction works, not particularly "chaotic futures."

And for the record, my favorite dystopian work is probably Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.

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Take it easy guys. Anyway I am actually gonna run a fallout campaign on the D20 future apocalypse system. That is if my role players could coordinate their times.

This post has been edited by AnarchistDream on 7th June 2008 06:00

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At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
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I consider Foundation "chaotic future" because Earth itself was pretty much wasted and lost to the future generations and with all the warring factions it's pretty chaotic. Spoilers in case someone wants to read the series:

Possible spoilers: highlight to view

You may remember that they found Earth in *shock* Foundation and Earth and it was nothing but a radioactive heap. The only "life" was found on the moon and that was robots

Futurama.

The future simply doesn't get more choatic.

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Out of the choices mentioned, Fallout. Mostly because the first two games were so good. Shadowrun would be a close second.

If we're delving into published fiction, then I'm a fan of The Iron Heel by Jack London, and We by Yevgeny Zamyatin.

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There you are again, laszlow, trying to sound smart. Some academic circles distinguish between anti-utopia and dystopia. A dystopia does not pretend to be utopian, while an anti-utopia appears to be utopian or was intended to be so, but a fatal flaw or other factor has distorted the intended utopian world or concept.
Does that make you feel better? You sound like my mother always correcting people. Nice, also, how you chose Fahrenheit 451, in which the resistance is predominantly "intellectuals"

Most people don't need to be condescended to, while others (who might actually be smarter than you) don't try to use their expansive vocabulary in an open forum simply because most/some people don't understand what they're saying. It's called knowing your audience. If your only desire by coming to a message board community is to show off and one-up everybody, then you are a very shallow "intellectual" indeed. Good day Sir!

This post has been edited by A_True_Stigma on 7th June 2008 22:57

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Mein Gott! Is that Picard? He's so awesome...

And you can pick anything where the Earth is pretty much screwed. The examples were all I could think of, so I added the "other" because I knew there was a lot more

This post has been edited by painreaver on 8th June 2008 00:18

halo 3 is mine. halo ftw

lol somehow I'm not surprised

Don't make me open a facepalm thread

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Don't make my edit my posts to contradict your edits. There's more places than chan sites which feature facepalms. Get over yourself.

This post has been edited by AnarchistDream on 13th June 2008 05:35

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At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
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And here comes the greif...

Based on definition, my favorite chaotic world story is simultaniously a Utopia/Anti-Utopia, with an internal Dystopia... Anybody know what I'm talking about???

That's right... The Matrix!

The Dystopia is The Matrix itself, as it was designed to be a utopia, but in the plot, they go into why that continually did not work, recognizing the humans themsef as the fundamental flaw to their own society.

As for the Utopia: well, the robot's restructured world was in fact, their place, and the only dissention amongst the "people" was the occasional human uprising. But even at that, a human had not made it to the surface in over a hundred years (with the exception of The Osiris alerting everyone to what was really going on).

As for the Anti-Utopia: from the human perspective, there was nothing good about what the world had become thanks to the robots. Also, the sky was perpetually black, something that humans took credit for, that gave the world it's dark look. Aside from that, the fact that all buildings that had been thriving with life were now husks and shells that lay dormant and empty, if even still standing.

People give The Matrix a lot of slack, but it really encomapasses a lot of concepts (just in a very shallow manner). The problem is that it doesn't really cover any one well enough to be substansial in any category other than Sci-Fi. Oh well, I like it.

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The Matrix is actually an amazing choice that somehow slipped my mind. I thought it was an ingenious idea to make humans the power source for all robots and that the prophecy wasn't all that it seemed.

right on, leilong! Uber-props to the Matrix! I liked the Animatrix maybe even more so. The second two movies kinda ruined it, making it all Hollywood-typical, mind rot biblical-food-for the-cattle (poisons your mind and takes your dollars! Yay capitalism!). It should have ended after the first movie, with a nice accompanying anime.

Nice choice, Stigma-- WE was fantastic. Haven't gotten to London. Yet.

This post has been edited by Calculate_Death on 9th June 2008 08:40

you kids and your movies

The best chaotic future story is Snow Crash.

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I've always liked Fallout. Granted, I'm not terribly well versed in most of what has been mentioned...

The thing I like about Fallout is the fact that it's...not really depressing, but somewhat upbeat. 'Mankind nearly destroyed the planet, but whatever. We'll get by.' Also it's mildly futuristic (energy weapons, aliens, mutants), retro (the 50s style and the 'B' movie styling, the Commie filled history) and Old West-ee (In Fallout 2 Redding, as well as the tribal-civilization contention as well as bacially the whole lone gunman wanding the wastes thing) all in one snazzy package.

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I just got the Fallout I & II box set this weekend for free! Wee!.

Yeah I love the whol feel of Fallout. The first time I played it, I was blown away by the sheer fun of it, plus, as the case says, it is an old-school RPG set in the future. I love it

I really liked Waterworld. I actually read the novelization before I watched the movie, though...the writing was better. XD But I did like it! It's not all chaos-y, no, but the parts where they delved down to find the cities in the ocean were coooool.

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Even though its been awhile, I still love the story of The Giver, and its dipiction of the future. Gold.

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The Giver is one of my favorite books. I just recently got a copy and I need to reread it. Thanks for reminding me lol

The future in the Giver is for sure messed up. With the sameness and all that stuff. There was a sequel to it but it didn't actually seem much like a sequel.

I remember reading that in grade school, good stuff.

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At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)

Thanks for reminding me, 'The Giver' really was one of the best books I've had the privilege of reading when I was in junior high. Great read and I recommend it to everybody of all ages!

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The Giver was a very good book and that's why it won the Newberry Medal, but personally my favorite futuristic story is Memory Boy. It's about 5+ volcanoes exploding in the Sierra Nevada Mountains at the same time. The ash covers the sun and it's always dark, there's looting and stealing everywhere. No sun, no crops... its the fight to survive.

As far as books go, it's got to be 1984. "Orwellian" is a term I couldn't live without. However I think it's better as a observation of contemporary English language and 20th century political ideologies.* Not that it doesn't offer a brilliant vision of a possible future.

*I just couldn't write that any differently, sorry!

Close second is Neuromancer. It's definitely the best I've read for "chaotic future". Mostly because it doesn't make any sense, which is a good - and probably unintentional - way of mirroring my ideas of the future.

For films, Bladerunner is leagues away from all the others! You've got your down-and-out cop complete with cheesy narration, androids, poetry, detective work, saxophonists, and the best cinematography I've ever seen. Worth mentioning: the start of the "making of" is very, very cool. It shows flashes of the film - chronologically - as the music build up. One of the androids is talking over it about something amazing, then the hard-hitting bass kicks in as the camera moves slowly over the LA skyline. I put in the wrong disc and I thought it was the start of the directors cut. Gutted when I found out it wasn't.

Games: Deus Ex. It's a bit like Neuromancer for me. With the immensity of detail in depth in that world, it feels like I'm "jacking in" every time I play it.

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Fahrenheit 451 rocked the socks off of me when I first read it in middle school. It was written in the 1950's but it had some elements in it that were eerily foreshadowing stuff that goes on today. It's great, because not only does it challenge censorship, but it questions society, too, while in a "chaotic future" setting. My friend told me it's like 1984, but I have yet to read that.

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I read the topic title and expected this to be 100% centred on the WH40K universe. That there is not even an honourable mention makes me sad.

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Visions of Peace - Four Generals, One Empire, and the Returners caught in the middle.

Though I don't know most of the material being mentioned in here, I really enjoyed the Matrix as well. Resident Evil movies kick ass!!! Ah, if I had a dime for every time I've settled down on a sunday afternoon to watch Resident Evil on a cable station.

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Warhammer 40,000 was pretty good, but I never really considered anything Wathammer as being centered on Earth. Maybe I'm wrong