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After a few days of rumors and speculation, confirmation regarding a new remake of Final Fantasy IV has been provided by Shonen Jump. With a page of screen shots and other information, there seems to be little doubt that Square-Enix is indeed working on a new version of their first Super Nintendo Final Fantasy.

The DS remake will reportedly use the same engine as Final Fantasy III DS. There's no word yet of a release outside of Japan, but, hopefully, details will be forthcoming in the next few days.

Source: ds fanboy via Ronin (thanks!)

Yeah, yeah, I know. Another remake! And this game just came out on the GBA less than two years ago! And aaaaaaah! AAAAAH! Square is doing ANOTHER REMAKE!

Capitalist scum aside, I have to admit that I'm excited about this. Final Fantasy IV was one of my favorite games (I thought I'd died and gone to heaven when Final Fantasy Chronicles was announced, back in the day), and reviving it with a fresh new style could be a very good thing. Maybe it's not the Square game that most deserves a remake, and maybe the remake will completely destroy a classic... but I can't help but hope that this will be terrific!

This post has been edited by karasuman on 9th May 2007 21:41

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Good God, enough already.

Though, I would like a good remake for IV for once. Chronicles was pretty bad, and IVA was just awful. I have no plans to get a DS, though.

Source link needs to be fixed.

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The Abba lyrics are essentially all, except I should point out this half refers to yay capitalism and half refers to the fact I'm skint for the forseeable future yet now might need a DS in addition to a ton of other stuff I want..

This post has been edited by Del S on 9th May 2007 21:48

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I feel just like karasuman: somewhat excited. FF4 is, hands down, my favorite. On the other hand, I'm lukewarm about it being 3D - I'm not sure it'll be as enjoyable if the oldschool charm about its 16x16 sprites ends up being replaced by big polygonal monstrousities.

Definately something I'm keeping an eye out for though. Seriously? If it's awesome enough, I'll consider buying a DS just to play it. I did buy a PS2 to play Guitar Hero, so it wouldn't be the first time for me.

Hopefully if they go the FF4a way, they'll put a bit more effort into integrating the rest of the crew into the game. Even at the cost of modifying a few storyline elements (for instance, I could definately see Yang rejoining the party as soon as you can complete the Pan/Spoon quest - maybe give the player some party-switching system à-la FF6...) The "new" characters in 4a only had one slightly short dungeon to go through and bam, ultimate equipment all neatly laid out in a single room. The "regular" characters, on the other hand, had to take the scenic route and dig through the final dungeon to get their ultimate equipment.

Actually, the more I think about this game, the more excited I feel about it.

Edit: the graphics look kind of overly cutsey, but there's a certain near-sprite-like charm to them regardless. Nice...

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 9th May 2007 21:51

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For proper reference, the original comic referred to Nintendo and its Wii launch line-up. The source is here.

This post has been edited by Elessar on 10th May 2007 03:15

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Quote (Silverlance @ 9th May 2007 16:50)

I feel just like karasuman: somewhat excited. FF4 is, hands down, my favorite. On the other hand, I'm lukewarm about it being 3D - I'm not sure it'll be as enjoyable if the oldschool charm about its 16x16 sprites ends up being replaced by big polygonal monstrousities.

Definately something I'm keeping an eye out for though. Seriously? If it's awesome enough, I'll consider buying a DS just to play it. I did buy a PS2 to play Guitar Hero, so it wouldn't be the first time for me.

This just may get me to buy a DS too. If they do it right, this will be awesome. And I think the 3d-ness is cool.

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I don't believe it. I can't believe it. And yet I must believe it.

I can't complain about remakes at all because they're exactly what I want. I don't buy any of the new games whatsoever and I buy every remake. This one being no exception.

WHAT then, Penny Arcade, what? Step.

EDIT: Dear God, look at that logo. Is that some Golbez? Look at watercolory BARON. more, Square, give me more! MORE

This post has been edited by L. Cully on 10th May 2007 02:56

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I have to say, Cecil's hot-pink-and-purple armor is very, very fruity. Hopefully they won't butcher the coloring scheme for the other characters.

The maps are awesome, seriously.

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Quote (Silverlance @ 9th May 2007 22:07)

I have to say, Cecil's hot-pink-and-purple armor is very, very fruity. Hopefully they won't butcher the coloring scheme for the other characters.

The only person I see in pink is in the shot of the fight with the octopus. Since that takes place when the party it Tellah, Rydia, and Cecil (Dark Knight), and Rydia is obviously the one with green hair, I'm pretty sure that's Tellah.

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He's in two other screenshots. The pink is really, really out of place, IMO.

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 10th May 2007 03:56

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Quote (L. Cully @ 9th May 2007 19:53)

I don't believe it. I can't believe it. And yet I must believe it.

I can't complain about remakes at all because they're exactly what I want. I buy every remake. This one being no exception.


Dear God, look at that logo. Is that some Golbez? Look at watercolory BARON. more, Square, give me more! MORE

Well...yes, pretty much.

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Quote (Silverlance @ 9th May 2007 22:56)

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He's in two other screenshots. The pink is really, really out of place, IMO.

It isn't hot pink, it's a vivid purple. If you look closely on the sprites of the 2D game, you can see these spots on there as well. I personally think it looks very true to form.

I realize that Squeenix remaking these games makes it look a lot like they're milking it. ( It's because they are. ) But to be honest, I'd replay these games anyway. They're just doing me the favor of polishing it up with better graphics, translations, etc.

I think this is fantastic. If it's any bit as great as the DS remake of III, I'm going to be on cloud nine. As I've already got a DS, all I need is to shell out a bit of cash when it comes out.

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Quote (Silverlance @ 9th May 2007 22:56)

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He's in two other screenshots. The pink is really, really out of place, IMO.

I didn't even notice that. That pink is just...the shine. It's not meant to be registered as "his armor has spots of pink paint on it", just like Sailor Mars' hair isn't meant to be "she dyed streaks of her hair purple."

Paladin Cecil's hair in the SNES original had pink and purple highlights and stuff to it, and I certainly never interpreted that as "Cecil is a punk ROCKER!" I figured his incredibly light hair was supposed to have a neat iridescent quality.

I think you're looking for things to complain about.

This post has been edited by Neal on 10th May 2007 19:53

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Oh dear. This may be what pushes me over the edge into finally buying a DS. The system just keeps getting more and more games that I must have.

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*deep breaths* yeeaaahhhhh this is what i have been waiting for my favourite ff game in 3d i cant wait now

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It's nice to see another Final Fantasy game from the 2D era make once more another strike on a portable game, except with 3D graphics this time..

But to be quite honest, I'm just tired of hearing a new remake just as much as hearing a new FF7 movie/game/etc. Square needs to stop planning and releasing all of these numerous rereleases and remakes and spinoffs, because it's already damaged their legacy.

Not trying to be mean or anything, but I'm not going to get a remake ever again if all it is is just the same game but with some random +1 new dungeon and a new skill or equipments. I want a remake that will give people a new fresh view of the game from start to finish, as in what they thought about doing to make the game even better back then, although it wasn't possible with the medium, so now they can do this and make fans like them even more.

So far, all I have are FF Anthology, Chronicles, Origins, IV Advance, and V Advance. It's a waste of my money to just keep buying any game I've beaten dozens of times just to be more "modern" and "updated".

Am I in the minority in feeling that this 3D-remaking of things is kinda going overboard, and having some kind of hunch that there are uncanny valley issues associated with the cognitive dissonance between nearly-realistic 3D graphics and not-very-realistic gameplay?

...and that very few games today really make use of the player's imagination anymore.

I mean, it's cool and all that they're doing FF4 in 3D, but I'm immediately scared that there will be stuff like characters rocking back and forth unnecessarily in battle and 3D-graphics-specific quirks like that that I don't like.

Okay, fine, complain that I'm not in with the times, but I think that my dissatisfaction with 3D is exactly the "uncanny valley" type of effect that I mentioned above--that the game makes the player (me) subconsciously expect a degree of realism with the graphics that isn't quite met by the actual game itself.

Of course, if Squenix actually does a good job with the graphics such that this effect is dispelled, I will be very pleased.

And one more condition: "You spoony bard!!" must be present in the final translation, no matter whatever else they change. No "You f***ing b****!!", no "You stupid bard!!", no nothing else. "You spoony bard!!" is just too classic for them not to put it in that if they don't it'll be a serious disappointment.

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Funnily enough, GMH, Spoony is an actual word.

I'm sure people knew that already, it's just that I didn't know that for a very long time. Still is a silly thing for a raging old sage to say to him.

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Quote (karasuman @ 10th May 2007 12:17)

I didn't even notice that.  That pink is just...the shine.  It's not meant to be registered as "his armor has spots of pink paint on it", just like Sailor Mars' hair isn't meant to be "she dyed streaks of her hair purple." 

Paladin Cecil's hair in the SNES original had pink and purple highlights and stuff to it, and I certainly never interpreted that as "Cecil is a punk ROCKER!"  I figured his incredibly light hair was supposed to have a neat iridescent quality.

I think you're looking for things to complain about. 

It looks kind of weird though, if it's just light shining off of his armor (not sure how purple can shine pink to be honest, but hey, it's a free country. ) I'm pretty sure his armor was metal-blue, too, though now that you mention it I remember markings in battle... Either way, Cecil ditches the armor only a few hours into the game so no big deal.

I always figured his hair in the SNES version was just an indication of his fruity post-dark knight nature. That, or due to his heritage.

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The only Lunarian we get to see is FuSoYa (edit: and Zemus) and he's (they've) already gone grey. So who knows what color Lunarians' hair is, really.

As for complaining... come on now, you know me better than that. Of course I'm looking for things to complain about. I'm still looking forward to the game though.

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 10th May 2007 23:34

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I don't mind Cecil looking "fruity." He's secure enough in himself that he likes a little bling. Also, I care far more how his Paladin form will look ( ).

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Fruity? There's a problem??

I'm with L. Cully on this. I see the use bright, solid colors as an attempt to infuse the character models with Amano stylins.

I'm always happy to play FFVI again, especially if it looks different. The FFIII DS engine is suited to the game, I think... if I complain about anything, it'd be that by this point in the series less SD characters would better suit the mood of the games.

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I'm always happy to play FFVI again, especially if it looks different. The FFIII DS engine is suited to the game, I think... if I complain about anything, it'd be that by this point in the series less SD characters would better suit the mood of the games.

I like the thought of visiting some of these places in 3D (though I'm curious how secret passages will work - dark patches on the walls that make your model vanish and screw up the display as the camera desperately tries to find some non-solid area to position itself in?)

What I'd love to see are a few liberties taken with the game to make it more open-ended, without changing the storyline too dramatically, though. Let's face it, we've pretty much all played any of the previous versions (if you haven't, do it - it's worth it ) so a little extra material would be nice.

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Maybe some scenes where you get to play as Kain while under Golbez's command, or Golbez and FuSoYa fighting their way through the Lunar core, for instance. Or having the option to keep Cecil as a dark knight, but I think that'd be TOO much of a change storyline-wise.

Either way, I think seeing this game through a new angle will be interesting, to say the least. I'm going to start saving up for a DS. Unless Square pulls out some really disappointing news on us, I think this one's going to be a must-have for FFIV fans - this isn't just the same game with an extra dungeon tacked onto it after all.

Even though Cecil does look a bit fruity, IMO. (Bite me. He does. )

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Another reason to get the DS...dammit.

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Why do this, i know Square-Enix can't go over VI but in the UK the game in GBA is only been out a year.

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This is IV, not VI.

The UK and most of Europe is always very late in getting games. Chances are, if it were released in japan today, it wouldn't end up being localized in Europe for another year or two. IVa has been released in japan since the end of 2005. By the time this version is released, we'll be 2008 most likely.

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Quote (Silverlance @ 12th May 2007 15:02)

Chances are, if it were released in japan today, it wouldn't end up being localized in Europe for another year or two.

Erm... it's not that bad. The worst I can find for a Square game, discounting the ones that never made it here at all in their original form, is about 11 months. GameFAQs reports that FF4A made it in six.

(And Square are still worse at this than most, as far as I remember.)

This post has been edited by Tiddles on 12th May 2007 15:41

Bah. I posted the first topic about this, and you had to steal my credit for breaking the news. Touche.

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For one thing, Lasz posted about this before you did. For another, I'm a news poster--it's my responsibility to post the news. Besides, it's not news until you have a source.

It's actually far more helpful if you send important links to us than if you go ahead and make your own post; if the news is worth being posted on the site, the news post will get made and your post will be closed... just like here.

Anyway, from the screenshots I've seen, the characters don't look the way I'd like them. I know they're trying to make it feel the same way as in the sprites, and I respect that. But what I'd like to see is the characters have more of a feel towards Amano's artwork. I'm actually interested in seeing how this finishes out. Mind I don't have high expectations for this, so I may be pleasantly surprised (similar to the way I felt about FFXII).

And Kain's sprite does him next to nothing in justice. At the very least, Kain should look intimidating.

Although the Cecil and Rosa design of them standing on the balcony in Baron looks very, very, nice. -CSM

This post has been edited by karasuman on 13th May 2007 01:51

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Quote (Crazyswordsman @ 12th May 2007 19:38)

Bah.  I posted the first topic about this, and you had to steal my credit for breaking the news.  Touche.

Anyway, from the screenshots I've seen, the characters don't look the way I'd like them.  I know they're trying to make it feel the same way as in the sprites, and I respect that.  But what I'd like to see is the characters have more of a feel towards Amano's artwork.  I'm actually interested in seeing how this finishes out.  Mind I don't have high expectations for this, so I may be pleasantly surprised (similar to the way I felt about FFXII).

And Kain's sprite does him next to nothing in justice.  At the very least, Kain should look intimidating.

Although the Cecil and Rosa design of them standing on the balcony in Baron looks very, very, nice. -CSM

Yeah, sorry about stealing your thunder, CSM. Granted, though, when you first posted about it, it was only a rumor.

Also, you should have your eyes checked. Kain isn't shown on the scan. It's all only Cecil, Rosa, Tellah and Rydia. (And Golbez, if you count the splash art.)

I'm interested to see my favorite scenes played out cenematically. Especially the Calcobrena part.


EDIT: The Japanese Final Fantasy IV DS website is up. It's only a cool intro and a pretty version of Rosa's Theme. (Theme of Love)

This post has been edited by Ronin on 13th May 2007 01:55

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Quote (Ronin @ 12th May 2007 20:17)

(And Golbez, if you count the splash art.)

Are you sure that's not black knight Cecil, though?

Fake ninja edit! My bad, that looks too much unlike Cecil. Gotta be Golbez.

@Tiddles:
Heh, I thought it was longer than that. I suppose you learn something new everyday.

Real Edit: Huh. My japanese is terrible but does that site say Nobuo himself is converting the music? Or that they're looking for people to convert it? There seems to be some sort of application form (or rather instructions) about sending a tape...

The little dialog box on that site when you click the button doesn't reveal much. Mainly that the music is being redone to better represent the theme and mood of the game, that there's no sex, and that the game will not be 18+. The rest of the stuff is about that mysterious application form (see above paragraph.)

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 13th May 2007 03:17

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They're recruiting a vocalist for a new version of Theme of Love, with Uematsu presiding over production. The 18 and up bit is the age limitation for prospective singers.

I was reading elsewhere that there will be voice acting. I wonder if it's even worth speculating on what Japanese voices SE would chose, considering they are usually not keen on using prominent voice talent in Final Fantasy.

This post has been edited by Shiva Indis on 13th May 2007 04:59

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