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What do you think is the best combination of commands for gogo?  I like overall: mimic, biltz, magic, and steal/capture.  It is subject to change, however, depending on the situation.

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Actually i think my favorite combination was making him more of a dragoon class, though i can't remember well now. I think what it was was

Mimic/Fight
Fight/Jump
Magic
Item

Basically his class becomes dragoon, give him dragoon boots and a merit award, so he can jump and equip lances/spears plus heavy armor



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I always use this:

Mimic
X-Fight
Lore
Magic

To give him the best of both worlds, he has Ultima within magic.  And Genji Glove+Offering+2 swords/knives= mass destruction.

I usually have him do something like this...

Mimic
Blitz
Rage
Magic

Magic is so he can give the party some much-needed healing at times.  Mimic is used when people double Ultima and also sometimes on regular attacks if I give him an Offering (fat chance, but it happened once).  Blitz, well, is there anything a Bum Rush can't do?  And Rage, because free Pearl and Meteor is something you just can't get anywhere else!

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giving him magic is really good cause he gets all the magic
that the other characters learned. (from what i can remember)

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I personally prefer these commands:Blitz,Magic and Steal. If you wonder why I chose the command steal, it is because I'm a steal freak. I usully have Locke and Gogo In the same group when I steal things from enemies. Thereby I raise the chance of succeeding by 50 %.

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Quote (Amido @ 6 Aug 2003, 11:17)

I personally prefer these commands:Blitz,Magic and Steal. If you wonder why I chose the command steal, it is because I'm a steal freak. I usully have Locke and Gogo In the same group when I steal things from enemies. Thereby I raise the chance of succeeding by 50 %.

Yeah, it's good to have Locke and Gogo both steal, but isn't Gogo much slower?  And because of this, do you actually steal any good items?

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Just because someone is slower doesn't mean that they will steal less valuable items from an enemy. It's all a matter of chance... Lessee... I myself would set Gogo up as

Mimic
Lore
Magic
Tools

For mimic... duh... he can mimic ANYTHING anyone else does. And if I'm ever trying to steal something from a particular monster, the only other person who is doing anything in my party is Locke. For Lore, those attacks just kick some serious butt. I'd think having Pearl Wind, Revenge, or Step Mine come up in a pinch is rather useful. The tools are just there to give him variety. Lore and Magic are... well... magic attacks. The tools give him an edge in a variety of physical attacks. Sure, Blitz would be nice, but there aren't many blitzes that attack all and aren't elemental. Plus it's fun to go crazy on Air Anchors!

I usually do magic, mimic, tools, and steal.

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Quote (4X8 @ 6 Aug 2003, 11:32)

Quote (Amido @ 6 Aug 2003, 11:17) I personally prefer these commands:Blitz,Magic and Steal. If you wonder why I chose the command steal, it is because I'm a steal freak. I usully have Locke and Gogo In the same group when I steal things from enemies. Thereby I raise the chance of succeeding by 50 %. Yeah, it's good to have Locke and Gogo both steal, but isn't Gogo much slower?  And because of this, do you actually steal any good items?

I know that Gogo is slow but there are things you can do to change that.

* Equip him with the relic "Runningshoes".
* Cast haste at him

It is also important to equip the relic "Sneak ring" which increases the succes rate of stealing.



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Heh! I never really played with Gogo, so I didn't input any new commands. I just mimed the last move, which often was a very great attack, and it worked fine!

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I like to make him as strong as my usual party: terra, sabin and edgar. So I make him use tool, magic, mimic and item. Don't say this combo is weak because four times Ultima (X-magic counted) +cure 3/debilitator works swell vs The entire Kefka tree or whatever it is. Put a wall ring on Gogo and let him fight kefka alone  

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Quote (RoyalKnight @ 6 Aug 2003, 12:07)

Just because someone is slower doesn't mean that they will steal less valuable items from an enemy. It's all a matter of chance... Lessee... I myself would set Gogo up as Mimic Lore Magic Tools For mimic... duh... he can mimic ANYTHING anyone else does. And if I'm ever trying to steal something from a particular monster, the only other person who is doing anything in my party is Locke. For Lore, those attacks just kick some serious butt. I'd think having Pearl Wind, Revenge, or Step Mine come up in a pinch is rather useful. The tools are just there to give him variety. Lore and Magic are... well... magic attacks. The tools give him an edge in a variety of physical attacks. Sure, Blitz would be nice, but there aren't many blitzes that attack all and aren't elemental. Plus it's fun to go crazy on Air Anchors!

Lore attacks are ultra weak, just keep using your black magic and white magic until you got ultima on terra, let him cast it too or mimic. Lore attacks are just TOO weak

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Actually, a lot of Lores are quite powerful in any battle where you're faced with multiple tough enemies, especially GrandTrain Lore.  I can't count the number of times I've used that on the Tower of Monsters.  However, they are less useful against a singular boss, due to the fact that they deal the same amount of damage to one target as they do to each separate one in the preceding circumstance.  Equipping Gogo with Lore definitely isn't the worst idea in the world.

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It usually varied, but it would usually look something like Mimic, Magic, Blitz, Tools.  I figured if I wanted him to use a regular attack, I could just mimic, but that also sometimes forced me to use the more-powerful blitzes or tools.

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Quote (4X8 @ 6 Aug 2003, 11:32) Quote (Amido @ 6 Aug 2003, 11:17) I personally prefer these commands:Blitz,Magic and Steal. If you wonder why I chose the command steal, it is because I'm a steal freak. I usully have Locke and Gogo In the same group when I steal things from enemies. Thereby I raise the chance of succeeding by 50 %. Yeah, it's good to have Locke and Gogo both steal, but isn't Gogo much slower?  And because of this, do you actually steal any good items? I know that Gogo is slow but there are things you can do to change that. * Equip him with the relic "Runningshoes". * Cast haste at him It is also important to equip the relic "Sneak ring" which increases the succes rate of stealing.

True, you can put the sneak ring on him, and I do that whenever Locke is not in the party and even add the kind of armor that increases his speed (I forgot which armor can do that), but I still find it hard to steal from the strong enemies like Brachosaur.

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me?

          Mimic
Fight            Magic
           Item

fight- X fight really takes one strong move, breaks it into 1/4 of power, and does 4 slashes.
Magic- its magic.
item- megalixers. enough said.

I like to switch the item to steal and set him up as a grand thief, steal a bizzload of megalixers, and goes back to item.

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I notice that people have Gogo equiped with the offering, the gem box, or some rare, powerful relic.  I disagree with this.  Wouldn't it be good enough for Gogo to have something like the magic command instead of X-Magic? That way, I believe you can get the most out of a relic like Gem Box by equiping it on a good magic user instead of on a copycat like Gogo. Gogo is great, don't get me wrong, but all of his stats are low.  He wasn't created with any strengths, but he was created so that a player would be able mix and match different commands and mimic their favorite moves.  So to equip Gogo with the Gem Box would be wasting its full potential.  It's the idea that nothing beats the original, I guess. But of course this is all my opinion.

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I agree. Gogo is not a character to waste valuable and unique items on because his stats are just mediocre. And I prefer to avoid Ultima when I can because it makes the game way too easy. Sure, anything compared to Ultima is weak, but that's what the Magic command is for. How often does someone find themselves running low on MP? Osmose does a heckuva good job in replenishing your supply. At least in my experience.

gogo still does nice damage with ultima

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Umm, can you tell me a character that wouldn't do nice damage with Ultima?

Anyway, I rarely ever use Gogo, but when I do I usually take Mimic, Steal, Blitz, and Item. IMHO, you picked him up too late in the game to teach him any useful magic.

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Actually, I don't think it matters when you pick up Gogo.  If you give him the magic command, the magic he knows is the all the magic the rest of the party knows.

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gogo can't be equiped with espers=>cannot learn magic. he mimics magic

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Well basically giving him:

Mimic
X-magic
Blitz
Item

Made him the most powerful charachter in my team (Terra's magic! Sabin's Blitz!) (plus gold hairpin.)



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Mimic
Magic
Lore
Tools

Mimic
Magic
Dance
(whatever I feel like at the moment)

As noted above, Gogo starts out with all the magic that anyone else in your party knows, and learns a new spell the moment someone else learns ikt.

Dance - This is just for grins. I put Gogo in a party with Mog and have them each start a different dance and watch the terrain swap back and forth.

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There is another topic that's basically the same as this, which doesn't make much sense because both topics have been around for over three years. anyway, I find Djibriel's epic discussion from the other topic pretty difficult to argue with:

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I got into it and wrote this article. Enjoy!

!Mimic
!Throw
!Slot
!Lore

Mimic
Let's start with the actual ability of Gogo: !Mimic. This allows you to do exactly what the previous character did. The same spell as the same (or the remaining) target(s). This even involves the summoning of Espers (special note: if you have Gogo mimic Ragnarok's Metamorph over and over again from himself, he will 'morph' an enemy, try to morph the same (and dead) enemy the second turn, will re-target the thirth turn, will try to take out THAT dead enemy the fourth turn, etc.) This will cost you no MP or items (with !Throw or !Item). You will lose money when mimicing GP Rain, though.
There are, however, limitations and special cases. These are (for as far as I know):
Gogo will not be able to mimic Morph/Revert, and will execute a Fight command instead.
Gogo will not be able to mimic any of Umaro's attacks (Umaro's Tackle, Umaro's Throw and Storm).Whether or not Gogo truly mimcis Umaro's Fight command when he uses this or if he just uses the Fight command because he can't mimic it, this I do not know.
Gogo will not be able to exactly mimic a flurry of attacks involving Quick. He will execute the last command under Quick (the second turn).
Gogo will not be able to mimic the four-times hitting you get from the Offering, and will instead use Fight.
Gogo will not be able to mimic a Jump command when the previous character lands, and use the Fight command. If Gogo tries to mimic the previous character when he just jumped in the air, THEN he will Jump.

!Fight/!Jump
Nah, not really. With a Vigor as terrible as Gogo's, no fight command is going to save your be-hind in battle. His Rods will do a lot of damage when the randomly cast spell actually hits, but it's a gamble and you'd better gamble with !Slot if that's your way.

!Magic/!X Magic
First of all, Gogo will know only those spells that the characters he's with know. That means that the initial usefullness of Gogo's Magic command depends on the amount of usefull spells his/her team members know. But I'm assuming that you put Gogo in a team with all kinds of goodies, or else you wouldn't have thought of the Magic command at all. So what's with Magic? Basically, Gogo will make a decent Magic user. Decent enough to consider it a 'good' option. However, the Magic command can be utilized to the same extent by Strago, Relm, Celes, Terra, Mog...heck, with the Merit Award even Cyan won't be that far off. The Magic command is a command that every character can use. Why have anohter Fire 3 to use when your other three members can also do it? I'd say that while Magic can be darn usefull, you'll probably want a more original skill, if only for originality's sake.

!Steal/!Capture
Since the success rate of stealing depends on the user/s level and not on anything else, Gogo would be just as good as a thief (and no, I'm not making the cheesy 'Oops, treasure hunter' joke here) as Locke. However, to really pick a monster's pocket, you need the Sneak Ring...and that would use up a Relic slot. You can do this if you think you can live without the Marvel Shoes, but it's not my choice. Having a second stealer is always a good thing, though. Especially in the first part of the World of Ruin: the whole game spirals around finding Locke after you found everybody else. Locke is the only reason Celes got it together in the first place and Locke is your key to all kinds of ultimate equipment. There's a lot of goodies to steal before you find him, so before you mess with Marvel Shoes and the like, a Sneak Ring might be a very good idea. Neat side effect: with !Capture, the special effect of the Heal Rod is removed. That means that you now have an unblockable non-elemental weapon with a 200 base power (Wing Edge is 198, Striker is 190, Tiger Fangs are 215). Nice enough when you're just starting the World of Ruin.

!Tools
The usage of tools depends on vigor, and even with the Paladin Shield boosting, Gogo's vigor does not come near Edgar's. If you really like your tools, you could do this, but be warned that Gogo will not use them as well as Edgar will (except Bio Blaster and Flash, which he will use better...but come on.). !Tools is not the best ability that ever hit the screen, and when you go for non-elemental, barrier-piercing single-target attacks such as Drill and Chain Saw, you might as well go with Throw.

!Blitz
Gogo can not learn Blitzes, he will only know those that Sabin knows. With this kind of get-up, Gogo will use Bum Rush way better then Sabin will. But Sabin will do 9999 damage anyway, like Gogo, and Gogo's Bum Rush will hurt your eyes just as bad as Sabin's will. I personally don't like Bum Rush...but Bum Rush will be your best shot when you want Gogo do do massive amounts of damage. Gogo'll use Fire Dance and Air Blade to better extend, too. One of the better. I almost put in on the above list of recommendations, but then I realized that a Fire Skean was stronger then Fire Dance and Aero would beat Air Blade, too. Plus, you need to stop your normal rhytm in battle and pause to insert the moves...it's okay on Sabin, since Blitz is what he does. But on Gogo, there's better things then Blitz, like:

!Throw
Throwing stuff is generally not only really powerful, it's also targetable (unlike Blitz and SwdTech) and you can attach any element you want to it (buy Tridens, Gravity Rods, Blossoms, etc.). Plus, with Gogo's Magic Power pretty stinkin' superior (in his equipment, anyway) to Shadow's, the three Skeans will hurt a whole lot more, too. Gogo can be a magical man or a physical man. Since mine will work in favor of Magic Power, it's just !Throw that will provide Gogo with physical attacks. I stronly suggest you go with Throw. It's on my own recommendations list, even. Although I'll admit Throw can't do anything that the combinations of Lore and Slot can't do, too...a strong lightning-elemental, multi-targetable attack is something that's missed greatly from your own side, and Bolt Edge will do the trick very nicely.

!SwdTech
With Gogo's laughable vigor and the composition of the average SwdTech, I don't think these two things go together very well. I'll admit that Gogo pulls off a very nice Stunner, but without Quick (you'll need both the Magic command and somebody in your team with Quick) and with a inferior vigor, Gogo won't be anywhere near the Sword Artist Cyan is. And even if you wanted to go with SwdTech, you would need a sword instead of the Magus Rod to pull it off. I suggest the Enhancher if you're a stubborn piece of man, due to the same rise in Magic Power (+ 7) and an 20 % Magic Block. Note that Gogo will never learn SwdTech skills by itself, he'll just be able to use those that Cyan can use.

!Runic
Very bad idea. Runic doesn't go with any level or stats, and that would make Gogo an equally well user of the Runic blade as Celes...but due to his equipment, most spells wouldn't give Gogo any MP or even hurt his MP when equipped with the Paladin Shield. Note that the Magus Rod CAN be used to utilize the !Runic ability, but it's the only rod capable of doing so.

!Rage
Gogo as a Rage user and Gau as a Rage user are two every different things. While you would probably use Gau as a physical machine (or as a Wind God, in which case Gau would be kind of like Gogo), Gogo would do nowhere near as much damage with a normal Catscratch as Gau. However, he WILL be a better user of all magical attacks included in Rage, such as Meteo, Land Slide or Merton (whatever you want). Another great option would be slight variation of Wind God Gau (which would be Wind God Gogo). His superior Magic Power would mean a better Wind God then Gau himself. Check it out! Last thing to consider: With the Paladin Shield and 128 % Magic Block, together with the Night Shade Rage, Gogo would become as invulnerable as it gets. He would null/absorb all elements and be immune to all status ailments, while also having Safe, Shell, Regen and Haste set, Charming like a madman. I did not choose for Rage on the recommendation list, because I like Gogo to be controllable when he can...but he would become a Superman indeed being Wind God Gogo or Night Shade Charmer Gogo. Gogo, to state the obvious, can not Leap and can never learn Rages by itself.

!Slot/!GP Rain
This will suprise a lot of people, I guess. Slot in the recommendation list? SLOT? Hold onto your horses, people: with Slot, you have a secured Bahamut summon (for free) at the start of every battle if you wish so (or one of the lesser attacks, if you want that for some reason). For some detailed info, I suggest you go visit Master ZED's site for an explanation of Slot and how it works...but all I have to say to you is this: Use an Echo Screen, and then start the spinning. When you time right/save and load at the appropriate times, you'll get three dragon symbols in a row without a lot of effort. Further, Gogo will use each and every one of the attacks behind Slot better then Setzer will, and LagoMorph can come in handy too, sometimes. People sometimes forget that H-Bomb, for instance, is a non-elemental, unblockable, unreflectable, unrunicable (in short: no protection against it) attack with a base power of: 130. That's stronger then Leo's Shock (I KNOW you were always drooling over that move), it's stronger then Giga Volt, stronger then Shrapnel, stronger then S. Cross, it's stronger then Aero and it's stronger then any summon (not considering barrier-piercing Bahamut's Sun Flare and the kill-all attack Purifier of Crusader). You get the point? H-Bomb is THE STRONGEST NON-BARRIER-PIERCING ATTACK IN THE GAME!. Safe for Goner and a Catscratched Wind Slash (cough). !GP Rain is, ofcourse, an option if you want to make fun of yourself.

!Dance
Nah, I don't think so. I'll admit that when it's stuck on Mog, it beats his Fight command...but !Dance just very well might be the worst special skill I've met so far, and I wouldn't want to stick it up Gogo's be-hind if I was paid a million bucks for it. Ofcourse, !Dance houses the ultimate healing move and Land Slide is a very nice attack coming from Gogo...but it's three times as uncontrollable as Gau's Rage and I'm getting pretty stinkin' sick of Snowball and Harvester. Gogo, like with all other skills, can just do what Mog can. That means that Gogo will NOT learn any dances.

!Lore
Yes! With both Strago and Gogo being such odd characters and with their names so alike (...-go), it's only fitting that Gogo would receive Lore. With Gogo's HP up pretty much always the highest of your party, he'll use Pearl Wind very nicely...and Big Guard is always nice, too. Gogo's Magic Power is not comparable to Strago's, but he'll do enough damage with Aero and/or GrandTrain to make the selected attacks worth their time. Gogo, by the way (see a pattern here?), can never learn Lores, even if it's pulled off under ideal circustances and Strago doesn't know it yet. Gogo can Lore whatever Strago can Lore, you got that?

!Sketch/!Control
With Sketch being even worse then !Dance, I'd have to say NO. Or, if you want me to reconsider and then come out with a highly proffesional opinion, having looked at all the possible disadvantages, advantages and situations: HELL NO! I'd say that Control would be nice enough, but Gogo really can do better then !Control (being Lore, Slot and Throw, for instance). It's nice to have TWO monsters out under Control at the same time, so Control would in fact be one of the better skills for Gogo to have. Just a shame you need to sacrifice a Relic slot for !Control. Without the better stuff on Gogo (Paladin Shield, Force Armor, etc.) your stats will be very bad and you just might not be able to use !Slot to the best of it's ability. Since Merit Award Relics (not to mention Marvel Shoes) are very hard to come by and you won't be seeing any of them in the first part of the World of Ruin, I suggest you keep a FakeMustache on Gogo and Control those pests like there's no tomorrow.

!Item
With the !Item ability set on all other three members (providing you have a party of four), !Item seems silly. Many, including myself, can't forgive themselves for NOT having the !Item ability because all characters have it (short of Umaro, but hey...Umaro...). The !Item ability will be usefull with Megalixirs and an occasional X-Potion if necessary, but it's a rare situation in which only Gogo will be able to use it fast enough.

Reading that mofo gave me a new appreciation for both Slot and Throw (I was already pretty convinced that Lore is awesome). Hypothesis: Djibriel knows his ****. Argument: see quotation above. Conclusion: Djibriel knows his ****. QED.

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