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Well if the OSU/Michigan game is close then they should repeat the game as the BCS championship, I was shocked to see how much farther ahead OSU and Michigan are in the BCS poll. Of course that won't happen I see it being OSU vs. West Virginia.

This post has been edited by BGrugby on 31st October 2006 20:36

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OSU vs. VW is possible, but there still another undefeated team still waiting...The Rutgers which have a chance too, but either way go ND against the NC Tar Heels, BTW what is a Tar Heel exactly?

This post has been edited by GamblingCat on 2nd November 2006 00:03

Well all that matters is who OSU will face and I think it will be WVU as Rutgers doesn't have enough talent.

As to what a Tar Heel, it derives from the fact that in the region there was alot of tar and pitch. Walt Whitman gave the state the nickname the "Tarboilers". It really wasn't till 1893 when students at North Carolina refered to themselves as The Tar Heel. And since then they have been the Tar Heels.

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Thanks, also it looks like WVU is beaten, now im hoping Rutgers beat Louisville (I think if it is Lou. and OSU in the NC, it would be one sided in OSU's since, OSU beat Cincinatti 37-7 and Louisville beat Cincinatti 23-16)

and of course go ND.

At this point I again think that if it is a close game between between OSU and Michigan that they should replay for the National championship as it is showing that no 1 lost team deserves to be in the championship game. Although the way OSU and Michigan played this weekend against craptasitic teams I am not sure they deserve to be in it either....DAMN YOU BCS

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okay, it looks like OSU is almost-beatable and Michigan too after this weekend, i have a feeling one or the other will lose this saturday, ND does well last weekend as i anticipate Louisville vs. Rutgers and hope Rutgers win (They are the Most Underrated team out there), seeing as they beat Illinois 33-0 and OSU narrowly wins 17-10, lol.

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seeing as they beat Illinois 33-0 and OSU narrowly wins 17-10, lol.

Spoken like someone who relies on the scores to draw conclusions. Rutgers got Illinois in the second game of the season, when Illinois had won a total of two games in the last 365 days. Since, Illinois has beated Michigan State, had a lead on Wisconsin through three quarters, and put up a helluva fight against the number one team in the country. I don't disagree that Rutgers is underrated (this year, not in general), but your logic is flawed.

Yeah, you're getting some heat on that post because you're using Illinois as your measuring stick for blowouts and because I'm a defensive Illinois alumnus. But it really slots in with what you've been posting all season: blind favortism with no deeper understanding of the game than what you see in a box score.

I will say I don't know who's going to make it in to the BCS. It's weird when the two top teams come from the same conference. One of them will clearly drop when they lose, deserved or not; after that there are three or four teams right now that could make a run for the second spot, really anyone six and higher in the BCS rankings has a shot at the moment, in my opinion. If any of them runs the rest of the table, they'll be looking pretty good. As much as I'd like for it to be Florida, I'm not sure - they've got four games yet to play and at least two of them COULD be their second loss.

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okay, it looks like OSU is almost-beatable and Michigan too after this weekend, i have a feeling one or the other will lose this saturday,

Keep in mind that Ohio State plays Northwestern this weekend and Michigan plays Indiana. They can both pretty much bring their C games this weekend and still win. I agree that Rutgers is the most underrated team, but because they do two things well: run the ball and stop the run. The game Saturday against Louisville is going to be fun to watch.

I'm really happy right now, since it looks like we get a BCS-screwing scenerio either way, as long as Louisville wins out. Either Louisville plays the title game vs. the Big Ten winner, gets blown out, and we get to talk about how much better the game would have been with Florida or Auburn there, or one of those teams (or the Big Ten showdown loser) gets in, and Louisville goes undefeated in a power conference and doesn't make it to the championship game. Either way the BCS looks bad. As long as Louisville wins out, that is, so hopefully there's no upset in the next few weeks.

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The Louisville/Rutgers game is tomorrow, not Saturday.

Another good BCS screwing scenario: Arkansas loses only one more and beats Florida in the SEC title game, and Auburn wins out and sneaks into the #2 spot in the BCS without having even played in the conference championship.

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The Louisville/Rutgers game is tomorrow, not Saturday.

On my drive in this morning, just across the GWB I get on the Jersey Turnpike. The lightboards above the highway all ignored construction, accidents, etc. and instead simply said "Go Rutgers." Made me smile a bit.

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Rutgers Won!!

This helps ND even more to weasel there way into NC, provided we beat the University of Spoiled Children in 2 weeks.

Every year I hope for as many undefeated teams as possible, just to create problems with the JOKE of a system the BCS is.


Going into a season knowing you can go undefeated and blow out every team you play but don't even have a CHANCE at competing for the National Championship? What's the point if you aren't an established program?


It's all "shoulds" and "woulds". God I wish Rutgers could play one of the top teams and just beat the tar out of them. Gah, so frustrating.

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Rutgers Won!!

This helps ND even more to weasel there way into NC, provided we beat the University of Spoiled Children in 2 weeks.

There is NO WAY that ND will get in ahead of Texas, Florida, or Auburn unless they suffer collapses.

Notre Lame/USCrap could go either way (that game will be a game to see which team is more overrated (no wonder they're rivals, they're the media's love puppies!)). But Cal will destroy USC, and so will Oregon. If anyone were smart, it would still be Michigan/OSU versus Florida/Auburn/Texas.

Considering Rutgers won, I'd like to se Notre Lame get killed by them. ND is one dimensional in terms of EVERYTHING (and their blowout loss to Michigan, the only ranked team they played, proved it).

I want to see the Wake/FSU game this weekend, but they're preempting it for... TEXAS/KANSAS STATE? What's the deal? Wake and Rutgers are the stories of the year!

I'm pulling for Maryland to win the ACC.

Scenario that would make me commit suicide: Rutgers loses to WVU, Michigan loses to IU, OSU loses to Michigan, and USC/ND get picked for the NC game. -CSM

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*Notices ND Hate*

Personally i doubt that Texas will even see an NC this season, I think that T A&M will beat them.

I still think ND can still make it, BCS without a doubt, i know they'll be in one of those.

I also think that USC may play Texas in a non-BCS Bowl.

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This post has been edited by GamblingCat on 10th November 2006 22:25

They don't even deserve to be in a BCS game. I don't think they've EVER won a Bowl Game since the BCS inception. Whatever bowl they're in, they will get slaughtered.

Have you ever stopped to think about ND's strengh of schedule and how they needed miracle come from behind wins against a mediocre team and a team known for it's complete fallouts? Have you noticed that the past three times ND played a team of strength, they lost? And that two of those times were blowouts? The UNC students said that ND wasn't any tougher than any ACC team. And I KNOW they can't be as good as Wake or Boston College (they probably avoided scheduling BC, one of their rivals, for a reason).

When you're an independent, and you want to prove you're worth the hype, schedule games against quality teams. Notre Dame has a schedule very similar to that of West Virginia. If it were up to me, there's not a Big East team in the world that deserves a BCS bid right now, let alone the Irish.

This is my projection for right now:

NC game: Michigan vs Auburn
Rose Bowl: OSU vs Cal
Fiesta Bowl: Texas vs Boise State
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs Wake Forest
Orange Bowl: Tennessee vs. Rutgers

As you can tell, I give a lot of weight to the powers in the SEC. -CSM

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However, Things have changed, I think ND is back in the title game, assuming a few things, Ark loses to LSU, FLA loses to FSU or ARk in SEC title, that ND beats USC, and behold the team that will be in the title game along with a Heisman Winner Brady Quinn.

Despite their low poll ranking, I have to think Rutgers has the inside track to the number 2 team in the championship game. I'm not sure if they're equipped to go into West Virginia and win, but if they do, I bet they have a lock on it. I think if the Michigan-Ohio State game is close, the loser has the second best chance of getting that spot over the ND-USC winner, or a 1-loss SEC team.

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Right now, if any team gets in the back door, I say Wake Forest deserves it. They're one of the few teams not named Michigan or Ohio State who is consistantly keeping opponents in check.

Now, I'm hoping Arkensas gets that second bid. They deserve it, as they beat tough teams such as Auburn and UT.

The Heisman will go to either Ray Rice, Mike Hart, or Troy Smith, depending on the UM-OSU outcome this week.

I still think ND doesn't deserve it. Air Force? Come on! They're a I-AA caliber team!

And after the way USCrap beat Oregon, they'll beat ND easily. (people say those two schools are actually rivals, and I'm not surprised as they're consistantly worshipped by the media no matter how bad/overrated they are. Maybe that's why they're "rivals?") -CSM

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Air Force isnt I-AA, they almost beat UT but lost by 1 point, and CSM there are reasons why there rivals, just not that, and ND will pwn USC, ND has a better QB, improving defense, two great WR's, useful TE's, and the running game is improving now, just they need to work a bit on the o-line.

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Despite their low poll ranking, I have to think Rutgers has the inside track to the number 2 team in the championship game. I'm not sure if they're equipped to go into West Virginia and win, but if they do, I bet they have a lock on it. I think if the Michigan-Ohio State game is close, the loser has the second best chance of getting that spot over the ND-USC winner, or a 1-loss SEC team.

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Well how ironic is it that after OSU beat Michigan that the newest BCS poll has Michigan still in 2nd barely ahead of USC. I am not sure but I think USC has two game left and if they lose one and beat Notre Dame and Arkansas loses then it will be OSU and Michigan part 2. I don't really want to see that as Michigan is the only team that I see that can compete with OSU and I don't want them to lose the National Title.

This post has been edited by BGrugby on 20th November 2006 03:56

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Now that I know that Notre Dame has no chance, I'm not quite as heartbroken that Florida will need a miracle to make it in to the championship game.

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Every year I hope for as many undefeated teams as possible, just to create problems with the JOKE of a system the BCS is.


Going into a season knowing you can go undefeated and blow out every team you play but don't even have a CHANCE at competing for the National Championship? What's the point if you aren't an established program?


It's all "shoulds" and "woulds". God I wish Rutgers could play one of the top teams and just beat the tar out of them. Gah, so frustrating.

Well now that's season' coming to an end, I'm glad to see my Trojans are still going strong (even if they suffered a loss). Looks like they'll be in the title game. I'm hoping for a win after what happened last season.

But I will agree, the BCS rankings are messed up.
Even in NCAA football o6 it was messed up. After becoming the head coach for the army i had soem hardfought games to get the team to 5 consecutive undefeated seasons, all against the top ranked teams(from preseason). Never did the Army get to go to a bowl game, let alone a national championship.

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This sums up my feelings right now:

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Dear Mr. Dorger,

As lifelong Michigan fans, we are extremely excited at the prospect of the Wolverines playing in the 2007 Rose Bowl. A trip to the Granddaddy of Them All would be a fantastic cap to a great season.

However, much recent talk about Michigan's opponent, if the Wolverines are selected, has centered on a potential rematch with Notre Dame, something we find about as exciting as a case of kidney stones. Furthermore, I bet most other Michigan fans - as well as college football fans across America - feel the same way.

Who wants to see a replay of a game that wasn't even close the first time?

Michigan already soundly defeated the Irish - on their home field - by 26 points in September. And the Irish, coming off a 20 point pasting at the hands of USC, are not ranked in the top ten in the latest polls, have only defeated one ranked team and were fortunate to pull out wins against lesser teams such as Michigan State and UCLA.

But there is a great match-up out there pitting two top fives teams against each other: #3 Michigan vs. #5 LSU.

Not only would an LSU-Michigan matchup likely be much more competitive than another Michigan-Notre Dame game, the Tigers and Wolverines, despite their storied histories, have never played. In addition, LSU head coach Les Miles played for Michigan under legendary coach Bo Schembechler in the 1970s.

Obviously we understand that a number of issues are considered when selecting teams for your bowl game, such as how a team's fan base travels. But this is not an issue with LSU supporters. Their fans are as ravenous as any in the country and would, we're sure, be delighted at the opportunity to play in their first-ever Rose Bowl.

So please don't give in to the temptation of matching up Michigan and Notre Dame...again. And consider the incredible pairing of two top five teams in Michigan and LSU - as they meet for the first time ever - in Pasadena.

Sincerely,

The MZone

Notre Dame has proven to me that they do not belong in the BCS. Brady Quinn, congrats, you're the next Peyton Manning (ie can't win the big ones). Unfortunately they'll probably get a bid.

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As a Florida fan, I was disappointed with their matchup against instate rivals, the
FSU Seminoles. My first reaction was, 'This is how a #4 team plays against a team
that's 6-5?' I'd rather see USC versus OSU myself for the title; the Gators might need
another year. Good season, though.

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Wow...so who's it going to be? Florida, with it's 12-1 record and ridiculous schedule? Or Michigan who most experts still believe is the 2nd best team in the country?

I think Florida is going to sneak in there. I think an SEC team deserves to play for the national title this year, with how competitive the conference was. I was all for a rematch of OSU-Michigan until I saw how Florida played today.

The one thing I don't like is the argument about how Michigan shouldn't be in the title game because they didn't even win their conference. It's not their fault the #1 team happens to be from their conference, and they did only lose to them by 3 on the road. If you think they're the 2nd best team, put them in there.

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Damn UCLA

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If you think they're the 2nd best team, put them in there.

agreed

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90 minutes until the selection show, and it's looking like Florida. As happy as that makes me, I don't think it will matter - I'd almost rather see Michigan go and be the team that loses.

Anyone else notice that GamblingCat seems to have lost interest in college football over the last couple weeks? Curious, that.

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Strange how most Michigan fans will be rooting FOR OSU. I was kinda looking forward to having a Michigan/LSU in the Rose Bowl. But it's boring ol' USC, a team Michigan plays quite a lot. Let's just have everyone get Michigan a victory and these two teams are looking into next season being ranked 1 and 2.

GamblingCat should be happy his team got a bid it didn't deserve. And it will continue its Peyton Manning-style post season collapses. LSU will blow overrated Notre Dame out of the water, especially because LSU gets home field advantage and the Bayou Bengal nation will be in New Orleans. -CSM

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