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Nuts, Greens and all that stuff..

Posted: 13th September 2006 20:29
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Hm.... Hello.

I was wondering: I saw, here in CoN, that I HAVE to use a Carob Nut in order to get a Blue, a Green and a Black Chocobo, but to obtain the Gold one I MUST use the Zeio.

Ok, that's the way it is, but... why?

I've been searching for tables that could explain me that "Carob is used for a better rate of success in order to get a colored Chocobo" or "Only Zeio makes a Gold one", but didn't find. And what about all the other Nuts?

The Greens are well explained: some gives some turns of advantage, and some reduces the percentage of flee. But... the Nuts?

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Another thing that annoys me: why do I have to get a "B" with a "C" Yellow Chocobo to get a Green? Wouldn't be easier doing it with 2 "A"s?

Or then: Did anyone try crossing... "F" with "A"... or "E" with "D", in order of getting different results?

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Again, I thank you all for everything. And please, be patient: my English isn't good. wink.gif
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Posted: 14th September 2006 22:58

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It's just a fact of the game that you need the Carob Nut to get a Blue, Green or Black Chocobo, and the Zeio Nut to get a Gold. If you use a different type, you just get a regular Chocobo.

Great + Good + Carob = Blue/Green Chocobo
Blue + Green + Carob = Black Chocobo
Black + Wonderful + Zeio = Gold Chocobo

That's the system, just the way it is unfortunately.

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Posted: 15th September 2006 03:46
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Quote (Lenny @ 14th September 2006 22:58)
It's just a fact of the game that you need the Carob Nut to get a Blue, Green or Black Chocobo, and the Zeio Nut to get a Gold. If you use a different type, you just get a regular Chocobo.

Great + Good + Carob = Blue/Green Chocobo
Blue + Green + Carob = Black Chocobo
Black + Wonderful + Zeio = Gold Chocobo

That's the system, just the way it is unfortunately.

Thanks for the reply, Lenny. ^^

The thing that makes me wonder is: how would a person that doesn't read Walkthroughs get a Gold Chocobo by breeding?

Well, the first parts are easy..

"Well... If I breed this kind of Yellow with this I get... A blue one! Nice!"

"And if I try it again? Maybe I can get something different... Oh, a green!"

"Hmmm... And if I breed'em themselves? Do I get something? Wow, a Black one!"

Well, until here we can make a logical thinking that we could get here. But... HOW would a person think that, for getting the Gold one, she should get the Black one and breed with a YELLOW again?

This kind of think that makes me think.." Maybe... MAYBE there's a unknown color!"

Then i think again and... "No, a game like this must have been all discovered... There's much time since it's releasing!"

But I insist and think: "There are A, B, C, D, E, and F types, and a great variety of Greens also... There are numerous possibilities of crossings! Maybe there's something new there.."

But it would take A LOT of work... =P
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Posted: 15th September 2006 12:00

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Oh but theres the Secret cheese chocobo and the secret silver chocobo. And I think theres even a Metal chocobo.

But if you want true information, you can have a inivisble chocobo. tongue.gif

http://ff7rumors.tripod.com/chocobos.html

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Posted: 15th September 2006 13:16
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Quote (Dragon King @ 15th September 2006 12:00)
Oh but theres the Secret cheese chocobo and the secret silver chocobo. And I think theres even a Metal chocobo.

But if you want true information, you can have a inivisble chocobo. tongue.gif

http://ff7rumors.tripod.com/chocobos.html

I already read that... xD

That story about a Cheese One (take a look at the Weapon part at "Monsters") looks like a "Mc Donalds Easter Egg": two hamburgers, lettuce, cheese, special sauce, onion.... laugh.gif

If you start to think logically, you conclude that REALLY isn't any purpose for a secret color of Chocobo: An Underwater one wouldn't be logical, cause Cloud can't breath under water. One to go under the swamp and find an Onyx (WTF?) Weapon? Even less logical.

Hmmm... But maybe a super racer race... xD

But yeah... That Mideel's White Chocobo freaks me out... =P
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Posted: 15th September 2006 17:08

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The use of greens has been documented already. Poke around in the forum search function, I posted a thread about it at some point. I think it made it in the FF7 section, too, so you might want to look for it there.

As for undiscovered colors, I can say this much. Unless Square went through the effort of burying a new kind of chocobo in the code, totally seperated from the other colors, there are none. In fact, you can verify this with a gameshark code easily by going through the possible IDs. wink.gif

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Posted: 15th September 2006 17:52
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Quote (Silverlance @ 15th September 2006 17:08)
The use of greens has been documented already. Poke around in the forum search function, I posted a thread about it at some point. I think it made it in the FF7 section, too, so you might want to look for it there.

As for undiscovered colors, I can say this much. Unless Square went through the effort of burying a new kind of chocobo in the code, totally seperated from the other colors, there are none. In fact, you can verify this with a gameshark code easily by going through the possible IDs. wink.gif

Hello, Silverlance, and thanks for the reply.

It's true, the use of greens can be seen in many places, but the use of Nuts (besides of Zeio and Carob - even if there is no "written" reason that says "This one is for Gold ones" and so) isn't. And that's what I'm looking for.

About the colors, as I don't have a Gameshark neither my PS has a place to put it, I can't discover it. =/

Edit: I think I found a table of it... It is almost what I wanted:

Nuts:
NAME: | PRICE: | PURCHASED: | SUCCESS:

Pepio Nut | 100 Gil | Farm | Possible
Luchile Nut | 200 Gil | Farm | Possible
Sahara Nut | 400 Gil | Farm | Possible
Lasan Nut | 600 Gil | Farm | Likely
Param Nut | 1500 Gil | Sage | Very Likely
Porov Nut | 2000 Gil | Sage | Very Likely
Carob Nut | N/A | N/A | Near 100%
Zeio Nut | N/A | N/A | Near 100%

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Posted: 17th September 2006 20:02

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Jesus I remember doing that for the first time back in 8th grade. Was so fun cool.gif

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Posted: 18th September 2006 12:32
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Quote (w00tah86 @ 17th September 2006 20:02)
Jesus I remember doing that for the first time back in 8th grade. Was so fun  cool.gif

I can say exactly the same... And I had fun yesterday.. xD

Well, now I gotta post the results of my researches:

Grear
I started with the old combination of a Great Yellow Female with a Good Yellow Male. Feeding'em with 99 Sylkis Greens each (no W-Item yet - my Mastered All were sold. =P) and running with'em 'till S Class, I mated'em and got a Blue Male. I tried to use other Nuts (like Zeio or Porov), but all I got was Yellow ones. It must be the way to improve Yellow in order to get fast Colored chocobos.
After, I combined a Great Yellow Male with a Good Yellow Female. Feeding'em with 99 Sylkis Greens each and running with'em 'till S Class again, I mated'em and got a Green Female.
Then, combining the Blue Male and the Green Female (Both feeded with 99 Sylkis and in S-Class), I got a Black Female.
At last, I hunted for a Wonderful Male and feeded it with 99 Sylkis and uped it to S-Class and did the same to the Black one. With both well-trained, I mated'em and got a Gold Female. ^^

Here is the table of atributes:

_Name__|_Top Speed_|__Stamina__|Sylkis G._|__Cor/Classe
F-Grea |____95_____|___999____|___99___|__Ye / B
M-Good |____89_____|___999____|___99___|__Ye / C
M-Blue |____105____|___999____|___99___|__Blue
F-Good |____82_____|___999____|___99___|__Ye / C
M-Grea |____89_____|___999____|___99___|__Ye / B
F-Gree |____105____|___999____|___99___|__Green
F-Blac |____116____|___999____|___99___|__Black
M-Wond |____105____|___999____|___99___|__Ye / A
Goldie |____163____|___999____|___99___|__Golden

Well, I see that I can improve It, but... It will cost a lot more. =P

Total Cost of it = 891 Sylkis Greens = 4.455.000

Well, I'd like to see your opinions about It... I'm thinking about "breeding back" (Mate the Gold with a Improved F, in order of getting a even more improved yellow, and the re-breed all back.)... Or then, mate the Gold with an overpowered Wonderful Yellow (made mating 2 Wonderful Yellows), getting a Suberb Wonderful One, and then mating it with the Black one again. What do you think?


Thank you for your answers. =)

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