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WARNING: THIS FANART CONTAINS ROMANTIC OVERTONES BETWEEN A BROTHER AND SISTER. IF INCEST OFFENDS YOU, OF IF YOU ARE UNDER 18, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAVE NOW. GETTING INVOVED IN VIEWING INCEST MAY BE A MURKY AFFAIR. BELIEVE ME, I KNOW.

This here is my favorite Final Fantasy Tactics couple, a brother/sister type pairing between Ramza and Alma Beoulve. Alma is very cute and sweet, and she adores her older brother enough to make it feasible IMO. In his pic, they dart past their sibling squabbles to share mutual feelings with a joyful embrace. They're caught, but won't let go of each other for an instant.

http://myst-knight.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1xniyk

This post has been edited by Myst Knight on 30th January 2011 06:36

Admittedly, I haven't played FFT, so I don't know if it's out-of-character, but just looks like a hug between siblings to me - all this talk of murky affairs got me slightly excited, but I'm confident enough that this is tame enough to go on the site.
As for the picture itself, well, I like your cartoony style amd the simple, bold colours and lines, particularly on the dress - in some areas (though nothing major at all) the outlines look kinda awkward or jittery, and though that's part of the charm, the dress suffers none of these 'problems.' I also like Alma's feet, though Ramza's seem slightly awkward in their positioning. Still, you've done a nice job here.

Quote (Mimic @ 9th July 2006 18:29)

Admittedly, I haven't played FFT, so I don't know if it's out-of-character, but just looks like a hug between siblings to me - all this talk of murky affairs got me slightly excited, but I'm confident enough that this is tame enough to go on the site.
As for the picture itself, well, I like your cartoony style amd the simple, bold colours and lines, particularly on the dress - in some areas (though nothing major at all) the outlines look kinda awkward or jittery, and though that's part of the charm, the dress suffers none of these 'problems.' I also like Alma's feet, though Ramza's seem slightly awkward in their positioning. Still, you've done a nice job here.

Unfortunetely, the first comment is one I've been getting quite a bit: I try to make an incest pic, and people keep seeing it as platonic. Anyway, why don't you PM me about the specifics of the possible jaggedness in my image? Like, tell me what areas you think need to be smoothed out.

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I try to make an incest pic, and people keep seeing it as platonic.

Far be it from me to judge, but maybe that's your issue. Most people don't actually like incest, and therefore they're never going to see what you want them to see unless you make it disturbingly graphic. People don't all adhere to the same fetish, and you can't make them.

Note that this not a plea for you to post graphic things. I'd say the lack of comments on your art as yet is based simply on your subject matter as is.

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- Alma's arm looks like it's cut off at the elbow. You might want to make it bigger there, or show her elbow and then part of her arm before it disappears behind Ramza's neck.

- Ramza's arm looks chubby because you make the wrist suddenly quite smaller, then the hand fat. That would be fine if this was chibi, but I'm not sure if that's what you're going for. Look at the arm of someone who is thin (Ramza IS thin, right?), the arm gets thinner to that point slowly. The fingers should be a little longer, as well.

- Nothing wrong with the eyes and faces, they have nice expressions.

- Alma's skirt looks great, but the darker brown jacket doesn't need that huge crease. On most tops, the back part of a vest/jacket like that is straight with maybe a tiny crease, and that's only if the arms are at the sides. When arms are forward, the back is pulled straight.


Hope that helps. ^-^

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Quote (Rangers51 @ 10th July 2006 11:24)

Quote (Myst Knight @ 10th July 2006 02:12)

I try to make an incest pic, and people keep seeing it as platonic.

Far be it from me to judge, but maybe that's your issue. Most people don't actually like incest, and therefore they're never going to see what you want them to see unless you make it disturbingly graphic. People don't all adhere to the same fetish, and you can't make them.

Note that this not a plea for you to post graphic things. I'd say the lack of comments on your art as yet is based simply on your subject matter as is.

I never said I wanted everyone to adhere to my fetish, Rangers51. This isn't about people liking or disliking incest, and it isn't about any lack of comments for my pic; it's simply about what people are seeing on the screen, regardless of their preferences one way or the other. Not that I don't see your point; maybe some people only see what they want to see. It's like showing a picture of a black man to some extreme racist, and that racist saying: "Nope nope, that's just a white guy with dark skin." (of course, this doesn't explain Mimic's comment, since he seemed ready to enjoy a pic with an incestuous theme)

Elena99, the characters are actually super-deformed here, though not so much as to make then chibi. The dark garmet hanging off Alma's shoulders is actually some sort of scarf/cape thing. I don't know if that makes your comments invalid or not.

...alright, I've taken some advice and made a somewhat revised version of my pic. Take a look, if you dare.


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Oooooohkay. Here's a different topic. I was always a fan of Ramza and Agrias,
not Alma. I always thought Alma would have been in love with Delita growing up,
and Teta with Ramza, so the theme seems... odd to me.

At least, MystKnight, your drawing style is very kawaii. And I never realized one
could attach files directly to a message, either.

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This brings up an interesting question. Where are the content guidelines for CoN submissions?

Quote (Myst Knight @ 10th July 2006 02:12)

Unfortunetely, the first comment is one I've been getting quite a bit: I try to make an incest pic, and people keep seeing it as platonic. Anyway, why don't you PM me about the specifics of the possible jaggedness in my image? Like, tell me what areas you think need to be smoothed out.

Anyone else seeing the problem here?

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Quote (Dark Paladin @ 11th July 2006 03:40)

This brings up an interesting question. Where are the content guidelines for CoN submissions?

First, there are no hard-and-fast content guides. We cover things on a case by case basis, as illustrated in this post already.

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Quote (Myst Knight @ 10th July 2006 02:12)

Unfortunetely, the first comment is one I've been getting quite a bit: I try to make an incest pic, and people keep seeing it as platonic. Anyway, why don't you PM me about the specifics of the possible jaggedness in my image? Like, tell me what areas you think need to be smoothed out.

Anyone else seeing the problem here?

Quote (Me - well before you posted)

Most people don't actually like incest, and therefore they're never going to see what you want them to see unless you make it disturbingly graphic.

Yes, so if you please, read before snide. Thanks.

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Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

One more thing to show you all. This is an alternate verison of my pic where I've changed a couple of small things. These things may make all the difference though in how the art is percieved. Take a look, if you dare:


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Well either way I dont care about the incest thing but the pictures are good. I know i couldnt do tht good. Good job there

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The picture is OK, although Alma's arm looks a little skinny. The revised version looks more like lovers.

However, I can't help but escape the sinking feeling that you're trolling.

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