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PS1 version letter space question.
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Posted: 7th July 2006 08:03
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Okay, wtf. On the Anthology version, some enemy/spell names weren't able to fit in the box, yet in the SNES version they were able to fit them there. Are there less spaces in the PS1 version? Because I don't understand how it can't fit more characters in a 32-bit system than a 16-bit system, unless it has to do with it being ported or whatever.
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Posted: 7th July 2006 18:32
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I own the real 3US cartridge and am playing it now on my SNES. Many times, enemy and spell names are shortened to fit in boxes. How many characters fit in a particular box depends on many factors of the game's engine (how big the box is, how wide the letters are, etc.) not the data-shoving power of the processor.
An explanation for the abbreviations is if they knew ahead of time how big the box was, they decided to limit the number of characters for spell and enemy names to save space on the cartridge. One example is "Fenix Down", it has fewer letters than "Pheonix Down." Also you have "Carbunkl" and "Rflect." Hope this answers your question. -------------------- Status: FF6 -- Finished! Yeah! FF7 -- Finished (easily, and without KOtR) FF8 -- End of Disc 3 Secret of Evermore--Leveling up for Salabog "Go sit over there. Put your seatbelt on."--Squall |
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Posted: 7th July 2006 18:47
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The stupid thing about Fenix Down in particular is that there are enough characters available for Phoenix Down, including the space. The PSX version still only corrects it as far as PhoenixDown without the space, though.
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Posted: 7th July 2006 20:19
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I thing this also has to do with why that stopped using spell names like, "Fire, Fira, and Firaga" and changed it to just "Fire1, Fire2, and Fire3.
I don't really understand the mechanics behind it, but I'm pretty sure it goes along with the limited space thing. -------------------- "Kiros, the second black guy in all of Final Fantasy...unless ofcourse, you count the Black Mages...heh..." ~Me |
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Posted: 7th July 2006 21:36
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Yep. Whereas it fit fine in Japanese. (Phonetic language based on syllables-per-symbol), as compared to english and other languages with single letters.
And everyone got used to the '1, 2, 3' system anyway. Meh. Well, I guess its just weirdness on their part. Carbunkl. xP -------------------- |
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Posted: 7th July 2006 21:51
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Quote (Tatsubei Yagyu @ 7th July 2006 15:19) I thing this also has to do with why that stopped using spell names like, "Fire, Fira, and Firaga" and changed it to just "Fire1, Fire2, and Fire3. I don't really understand the mechanics behind it, but I'm pretty sure it goes along with the limited space thing. Actually, the "Fire3"/"Fire 3" naming scheme FAR predates the "Firaga" naming scheme, so the latter ("-a" and "-aga") are something were only started in recent years. (For the record, I personally prefer the numbers over the suffixes.) Quote (BDZ) How many characters fit in a particular box depends on many factors of the game's engine (how big the box is, how wide the letters are, etc.) not the data-shoving power of the processor. As for fitting characters--Yeah, remember those times that you can run text off a text box? Yeah. Especially since space is no longer really an issue (the game is a few MB big at most, and a mere CD-R can hold several hundred MB these days), the important part is how the text looks. Edit Oops, I REALLY screwed up the quote tags that time. Fixed. This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 7th July 2006 21:54 -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 7th July 2006 22:26
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Well, the 'ra' 'ga' 'ja' way of spell suffixes was used in the Japanese versions of the games. (I think it was something like 'da', then 'ga' or something, but I don't remember them all. xD) Like I said, they just couldn't fit that in the english text boxes, whereas its like three or four Japanese characters.
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Posted: 9th July 2006 03:33
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I'm pretty sure that it's been that way in the japanese versions, because in Kanji, "Firaga" would only be three symbols, so it wouldn't be a problem, right?
 I like the way the suffixes sound. "Blizzaga!!!!" "Blizzard,3!!!" Come on...  -------------------- "Kiros, the second black guy in all of Final Fantasy...unless ofcourse, you count the Black Mages...heh..." ~Me |
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Posted: 9th July 2006 03:43
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In katakana, it'd be four symbols, so it worked fine in the earlier games. (In the FFIII instruction booklet, I notice they cut down katakana symbols to fit space for some spell names, but you can still tell what the spell name is.)
Yeah, the funky suffixes sure make the names sound more magical. Someone yelling 'Fire 3!!' doesn't sound all that intimidating. Still, if what Tiddles said is true, then this funky way of handling letter space is just all the more confusing. -------------------- |
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Posted: 9th July 2006 04:42
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Really? In katakana?
Ok, I just looked at a chart, and my theory was wrong. You know, the "Two-letter-per-kanji" thing... My bad... -------------------- "Kiros, the second black guy in all of Final Fantasy...unless ofcourse, you count the Black Mages...heh..." ~Me |
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