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Appalling Polls: Best Series Ever

Posted: 2nd July 2006 12:57

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Now, I'm not starting a thread on which series is the best ever; as Ranger51 would
point out, there is already one that a brief search will reveal. Instead, this is about the
GameFAQs poll and their pairings. Ouch! Civilization, which leaves a lasting impact on
gamers everywhere, paired with Zelda? Doh! Yes, I know they forewarned that this
is all just a popularity contest, but it's a pity that Civ, whose every iteration taught us
more about governance and consequence would face-off and die from a beloved
character-driven series. Check out the brackets: the pairings will just get worse.
After all, for you CoNmyn out there: what game do you think is the better of the two:
Civilization, or Legend Of Zelda? While I enjoy adventuring with Link, Civ was an eye-
opener to me, both for RTS and for the scope a game could allow you to control,
and reap the benefits/demerits of each choice.

Does everyone know that the current poll series from GameFAQs is for the best
series ever? Vote nowl!

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Posted: 2nd July 2006 15:34

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Yeah, and Pocket Monsters beat Star Ocean. Not that I didn't like Pocket Monsters, but it's freaking Star Ocean, tri-Ace's signature series. Of course, it only depends on who's more popular and who sells more, and so Pocket Monsters automatically wins in that category.

Anyway, I've grouped all of tri-Ace's games together, so I don't have to pick one of their amazing series. I also like Tales too. (Go figure.) And then there's Kirby, and of course Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest.

Edit: And yes, Zelda.

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Posted: 2nd July 2006 15:34

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It's unfortunate that Civ got whooped so badly, but I think Zelda really does deserve to win. Games like the original, which brought the RPGesque genre to the US, and LttP, an instant classic. OoT is the highest rated game of all time. There are tons of great games in the series, and even if Civ didn't deserve quite the shame they were put to, I don't think they should have won over Zelda.

Now, I haven't decided my votes for all the brackets, but I know I'll be pulling for Metroid, MGS, and Zelda to the finals. (It's unfortunate I'm gonna have to vote kirby down for that)

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Yeah, and Pocket Monsters beat Star Ocean. Not that I didn't like Pocket Monsters, but it's freaking Star Ocean, tri-Ace's signature series. Of course, it only depends on who's more popular and who sells more, and so Pocket Monsters automatically wins in that category.

Pokemon didn't BEAT Star ocean, it just got a higher seeding. I'm gonnna vote for Star ocean in that one if it's any conselation.


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Posted: 2nd July 2006 16:07

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The phrase "Gamefaqs is like a box of chocolates. Some bugger's ate all the strawberry and toffee ones so all that's left are nougat and nut that I don't like" springs to mind, but then I realise this makes no sense so I shall simply say gamefaqs is the land of the fanboys and frankly, the only thing I commend them on is that they confess their polls are just fanboy favourite contests. If they want a real poll, they should put the big guns against each other.

Anything but Zelda. Though I doubt Zelda will ever find a portugal to get it's arse handed to it by.

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Posted: 2nd July 2006 16:07

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Hello, Long Z. Didn't you feel that Zelda was more of an adventure series than an
RPG series? I always thought FFIII has the distinction of bringing RPGs to the main
stream. I'll be very curious to see what FinalFantasy is paired off with, since there's
a series that deserves to be in the finals.

Edit: Haha! Yes, these early-round spankings do remind me of a bigger tourney!

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Posted: 2nd July 2006 17:30

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I actually made a bracket, just for fun. I figured that LoZ would win. I love the series, but it's not my favorite. My personal favorite is FF, but I don't think that it they can beat the LoZ fans.


The Line Up:

Hyrule Division:
Legend of Zelda vs. Civilization
Mega man X vs. Suikoden
Pokemon vs. Star Ocean
Metroid vs. Kirby

Snake Division:
Metal Gear vs. Soul Caliber
Silent Hill vs. Fire Emblem
Castlevania vs. Halo
Kingdom Hearts vs. Harvest Moon

Mushroom Division:
Super Mario Bros. vs. Madden NFL
Warcraft vs. Grand Theft Auto
Sonic vs. Devil May Cry
Super Smash Bros. vs. Dragon Quest

Ultima Division:
Final Fantasy vs. Diablo
Mario Kart vs. Megaman
Street Fighter vs. The Elder Scrolls
Resident Evil vs. Shadow Hearts

The ones in the front of each vs. is who I think is going to win that round.

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I'll be very curious to see what FinalFantasy is paired off with, since there's a series that deserves to be in the finals.


As you can see, Diablo goes against it first. And it will probably lose.

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Posted: 2nd July 2006 17:46

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"Gamefaqs is like a box of chocolates. Some bugger's ate all the strawberry and toffee ones so all that's left are nougat and nut that I don't like"


True, very true.

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Anything but Zelda. Though I doubt Zelda will ever find a portugal to get it's arse handed to it by.


Hahahahaha

I don't really trust gamefags when it comes to polls, for instance the best character contest. I wonder, why it comes down to Link and Sephiroth pretty much every year? Could it be because they're both left handed? Probably not I doubt all those fanboys really know anything about Link or Sephiroth. Sephiroth probably gets votes like this, "Huh who's Sephiroth, I'll google him. Sweet sword, he's the coolest!"

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Posted: 3rd July 2006 15:13

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20$ says that the final match is Zelda vs. Final Fantasy, with FF winning. I want Sonic to get real high, but some matchups are unfair, thats the thing.
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Posted: 3rd July 2006 15:59

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Suikoden is losing by 20000 votes right now. I haven't even played the series, and I feel sorry for it...although I'm sure there will be much bigger landslides in the immediate future.

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Posted: 3rd July 2006 22:31

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I, uh, ahem, voted for Megaman. Doh! Sorry, but Megaman ruled the gaming universe
for me for the longest time. First I ever had to play in emulation, too, once I found
out about emulation. And you could draw him on anything and everything! After all,
who doesn't like a little Rock and Roll?

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Posted: 3rd July 2006 22:59

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Too bad Chrono and Breath of Fire are missing. Lufia as well. THAT is one of the most underrated series. Then again, GameFAQs is FFVII hippie land. I tend to avoid all boards except the FFVI board (which is probably the only place they don't exist). -CSM

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Posted: 3rd July 2006 23:03

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Quote (Crazyswordsman @ 3rd July 2006 16:59)
Too bad Chrono and Breath of Fire are missing. Lufia as well. THAT is one of the most underrated series. Then again, GameFAQs is FFVII hippie land. I tend to avoid all boards except the FFVI board (which is probably the only place they don't exist). -CSM

I think people are forgetting that Gfaqs isn't solely dedicated to RPGs. While there are some good RPG series on there, every one of the series on there deserves to be on there, even at the expense of a few not well known RPG series.

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Posted: 4th July 2006 00:50

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Well, I can't discount that kind of thinking. After all, it was the PacMan series that
got me into gaming in the first place, and I love the various shroom dreams that
Mario has lead us on, too. In fact, those two platformers (particularly their 3D
transitions) remind me of how much fun it can be just to Game, not just RPG.
And who wasn't changed, as a gamer, after playing the GTA games? From GTA2's
fantastic massive multiplayer (via LAN) to GTA3's unparalleled freedoms, there's a
lotta game in other series, too.

Truly, though, a series is in its legacy of characters and gameplay. For that, I would
find it odd if a nonRPG won the contest (unless it was something wildly famous, like
Zelda or Mario).

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Posted: 4th July 2006 16:33

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Zelda deserves to win by a large margin. I'm actually a big fan of management games, and Civilization is a very important and influential entry into the genre. At the same time, in terms of pure innovation and impact, it doesn't come close to Zelda. The synthesized ideas and raw creativity poured into the original Zelda were ground-breaking and revolutionary in a way the industry couldn't have possibly dreamed, especially considering the limitations of all available hardware at the time. Subsequent entries in the franchise set the standard for adventure games well into the 3-D era, with the newest entries re-defining graphical aesthetics (Wind Waker). It's not a fair match, to be sure, but I don't see how this could have gone any other way.

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Posted: 4th July 2006 16:44

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Haha. I voted Pokemon over Star Ocean, and it's winning anyway. Okay, I haven't played Star Ocean, but I seriously doubt that Pokemon will win another round--going up against either Metroid or Kirby.

Anyway, I can't access the full bracket view, but I'll simply list my opinions here. Not that I'll even care to vote, or remember to do so, or have the time.

Hyrule Division:
Legend of Zelda vs. Civilization: Zelda (haven't played Civilization)
Mega man X vs. Suikoden: MMX (haven't played Suikoden)
Pokemon vs. Star Ocean: Pokemon (haven't played Star Ocean)
Metroid vs. Kirby: Metroid

Snake Division:
Metal Gear vs. Soul Caliber: Metal Gear (haven't played it but I refuse to vote for a fighting-genre game)
Silent Hill vs. Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem (haven't played either, but FE has nicer character design)
Castlevania vs. Halo: Castlevania (is there even any doubt in my mind here?)
Kingdom Hearts vs. Harvest Moon: Harvest Moon (haven't played either, but will vote Harvest Moon since I don't really like KH)

Mushroom Division:
Super Mario Bros. vs. Madden NFL: Super Mario Bros. (once again, is there even any competition here?)
Warcraft vs. Grand Theft Auto: Warcraft (ugh, I don't like either)
Sonic vs. Devil May Cry: Sonic (never played DMC)
Super Smash Bros. vs. Dragon Quest: Dragon Quest (don't really like SSB)

Ultima Division:
Final Fantasy vs. Diablo: Final Fantasy (duh?)
Mario Kart vs. Megaman: Megaman (hmm, great series on both sides, but MM has a higher "hit rate"--only one truly great game so far from Mario Kart)
Street Fighter vs. The Elder Scrolls: The Elder Scrolls (don't like Street Fighter but never played ES)
Resident Evil vs. Shadow Hearts: refuse to vote, since I have very little knowledge about either series--I don't even know what Shadow Hearts is.

Second round:
Zelda vs. MMX: close call, but I vote Zelda
Pokemon vs. Metroid: Metroid

Metal Gear vs. Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem
Castlevania vs. Harvest Moon: Castlevania

Super Mario Bros. vs. Warcraft: Super Mario Bros.
Sonic vs. Dragon Quest: Dragon Quest

Final Fantasy vs. Megaman: very close call, but I vote Final Fantasy
The Elder Scrolls vs. whatever: The Elder Scrolls

Third round:
Zelda vs. Metroid: Metroid
Fire Emblem vs. Castlevania: Castlevania
Super Mario Bros. vs. Dragon Quest: Super Mario Bros. (sorry, even though I trust that DQ is a great series, I just haven't played anything past DQ1)
Final Fantasy vs. The Elder Scrolls: Final Fantasy

Fourth round:

Metroid vs. Castlevania: very close competition, but I go with Castlevania
Metroid vs. Super Mario Bros.: Metroid
Metroid vs. Final Fantasy: ooh, tough one. Final Fantasy
Castlevania vs. Super Mario Bros.: Castlevania
Castlevania vs. Final Fantasy: now here's a REALLY tough one. drumroll please...Final Fantasy.
Super Mario Bros. vs. Final Fantasy: Final Fantasy

Assuming they pit the first two divisions against each other, Castlevania beats Metroid and Final Fantasy beats Super Mario Bros.

Final round:
Castlevania vs. Final Fantasy: Final Fantasy, as I stated above.

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Posted: 4th July 2006 20:21

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My biggest mistake in my bracket that I made was that I thought that SMB would beat FF. I forget the FFVII factor. I would vote for FFVII, but ah well. I got LoZ and Megaman right, and Pokemon is winning so far, so I doubt I'll get that wrong either. I think Metriod vs. Kirby might be close though

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Posted: 9th July 2006 21:14

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I'm glad to see that HarvestMoon isn't beating out KingdomHearts. I accuse people of playing
HarvestMoon, and AnimalCrossing. But for KingdomHearts to get a better pairing than Final
Fantasy has, boo!

Seeing Halo NOT advance restores a little of my faith in the GameFAQs community.

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Posted: 9th July 2006 21:21

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I'm glad to see that HarvestMoon isn't beating out KingdomHearts. I accuse people of playing
HarvestMoon, and AnimalCrossing. But for KingdomHearts to get a better pairing than Final
Fantasy has, boo!

Seeing Halo NOT advance restores a little of my faith in the GameFAQs community.

Shame on you. Harvest Moon is an excellent game series with fine gameplay. This is exactly the kind of narrow-mindedness that creates the borders Harvest Moon and its type were made to circumvent. It is unfortunate that you are incapable of appreciating the subtleties of its construction thanks to some prejudiced protestation of its lack of violence, or what have you.

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Posted: 10th July 2006 01:01

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I'm glad to see that HarvestMoon isn't beating out KingdomHearts. I accuse people of playing
HarvestMoon, and AnimalCrossing. But for KingdomHearts to get a better pairing than Final
Fantasy has, boo!

Seeing Halo NOT advance restores a little of my faith in the GameFAQs community.

Shame on you. Harvest Moon is an excellent game series with fine gameplay. This is exactly the kind of narrow-mindedness that creates the borders Harvest Moon and its type were made to circumvent. It is unfortunate that you are incapable of appreciating the subtleties of its construction thanks to some prejudiced protestation of its lack of violence, or what have you.

Well then you can accuse me. I actually enjoyed the game a lot. It's different, and the only violence is striking your dog with a hammer, but it's fun and I loved it. KH was better though.

It seems that most people thought Halo was going to win. Thanks to that, and the FE beating Silent Hill, most people have a score of 5/7. I have a 6/7 because I predicted Halo's loss to Castlevania. I underestimated how well Fire Emblem would do though

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Shame on you. Harvest Moon is an excellent game series with fine gameplay. This is exactly the kind of narrow-mindedness that creates the borders Harvest Moon and its type were made to circumvent. It is unfortunate that you are incapable of appreciating the subtleties of its construction thanks to some prejudiced protestation of its lack of violence, or what have you.

and this is exactly the type of mind-boggling elitism from the "underground" game community that turns outsiders off to attemptiong to cross those borders in the first place. a man can't dislike a game without being accused of barbarism? hm *was* a great series (i say *was* because for the past 5 years, all the installments have been dead, don't get me wrong, but it's certainly not the type of game for everyone. i know you have this "innovation" kick such that any game -- even pikmin, you were talking about how miyamoto was so vastly inspired for having created pikmin when it came out, and what a terribly limited, senseless, empty, and of course ultiamtely uninspired avenue pikmin meandered down -- that is somehow new or different from other games makes your "top 5 games of all time, of the month" list, but it's seriously misguided.

again, the early hm series games were excellent and enjoyable games -- for the type of person who can deal with a low-action gaming experience that proves to be rather limited in graphics, exploration, music, and plot. it's not a game for everyone, as i said before -- the game is nothing more than a sometimes excruciatingly repetitive relax-o-game that doesn't demand much from the user. the concept was a clever idea and it worked well, but ic an't gtive natume any grand props on the series that they let fall off without much innovation past the simplest of concepts contained in the very first game.

so the question is twofold. 1) why are we riding natume's piece about hm, when really the games aren't *that* incredible outside of being fun screwoffs to keep you occupied when you've blistered your thumb playing dmc or numbed your brain levelling up in an rpg? 2) why are we being so accusatory and jumping to inane and useless conclusions in defense of such a game? if the purpose of hm and its ilk was to "circumvent" borders, why does the "underground" and old-school community react with so much vitriol to people who don't go for their games? "WHAT, YOU DON'T LIKE HM? WTF YOU LIKE FF7? CRUCIFY HIM!" who's building the fences? the people who don't go for farming sims, or the people who condescend to them for not doing so?

i, for one, would vote kh all the way thru until it got to mgs -- at which point i'd have to give it to mgs (is there really any doubt whatsoever that mgs deserves to win the whole damn thing?). the kh games, as whole packages, constitute a far superior set of games than any of the the limited funruns that hm ever has had to offer.
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Posted: 10th July 2006 03:52

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HarvestMoon never caught me because it's a time-spender, clear and simple. There
wasn't some innovative game mechanic, storyline, or coolness factor to keep you there.
It was a quick return for me because it never felt like a game that could keep players
playing. In short, it was boring.

AnimalCrossing was a fad for me, as I think most gamers. It was interesting to see
a persistent world, and then it's time swiftly passed on, as persistent worlds in MMOs
truly showcased the power it could do.

Nonviolent, amazing gameplay? KatamariDamacy. Innovation doesn't have to
mean going off in a direction only a few will follow, a la SpiritsWithin. But both
series are games that, like a running-play in the last quarter, just keep the clock running.
These aren't games people get passionate over, because it's cute enough to get your
attention, but not hot enough to keep you there through morning.

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Posted: 10th July 2006 04:03

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Seeing as I've only played Zelda out of the two I'd have to say Zelda. The gameplay is simply amazing. And I've also been playing the series since it was on Nintendo. It's the kind of game I can beat a hundred times and still come back just to mess around and do whatever i.e ride Epona, swim around as a Zora, archery...etc. And the storyline isn't too bad either.

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Posted: 11th July 2006 02:57

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and this is exactly the type of mind-boggling elitism from the "underground" game community that turns outsiders off to attemptiong to cross those borders in the first place. a man can't dislike a game without being accused of barbarism? hm *was* a great series (i say *was* because for the past 5 years, all the installments have been dead, don't get me wrong, but it's certainly not the type of game for everyone. i know you have this "innovation" kick such that any game -- even pikmin, you were talking about how miyamoto was so vastly inspired for having created pikmin when it came out, and what a terribly limited, senseless, empty, and of course ultiamtely uninspired avenue pikmin meandered down -- that is somehow new or different from other games makes your "top 5 games of all time, of the month" list, but it's seriously misguided.

Goz giving lectures about elitism? Color me confused.

Anyway, I don't even know what the "underground" gaming movement is, so I can't consider myself a proponent of it. I don't particularly care if a person hates Harvest Moon. That's his opinion, and he's entitled to it. However, the fellow in question remarked that he "accused people" of playing Harvest Moon - however hyperbolic, I believed that the poor phraseology demanded an equally exaggerated response. Do I really think he should spend hours of brooding, guilty contemplation wondering why he despises a great game series? No. Do I feel that Harvest Moon is a wonderfully fun and innovative series that deserves a second look? Yeah. So I responded in kind. For what it's worth, I thought Kingdom Hearts was a pleasant game too, and innovative in a different way (setting and environment).

I don't think I'm a better person or a more qualified "gamer" for playing games like Harvest Moon, but I appreciate the series for the sake of its own quality. I think you need to take a step back and appreciate this sort of thing on a case by case basis, rather than trying to apply some kind of over-arching, deep-rooted and ultimately ridiculous stereotype of the elitist "underground game" fanatic. I, at least, am not out to "crucify" anyone as far as I know.

Anyway, I don't see why you always have to resort to these backhanded personal attacks. I don't know what makes you think you're qualified to talk about my "innovation kick" or whatever, seeing as I haven't so much as had a conversation about video games (or anything else for that matter) with you for quite some time now. Yeah, I thought Pikmin was a fun game, and I think Miyamoto is a creative genius, but it's not in my top five games of all time or even my top five games of the year/season/month Pikmin came out in. Where does Pikmin even come into this? I'm sure you can dig up some obscure forum post out of context to support your argument about my character or preferences, but frankly I don't care one way or the other. Lighten up.

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Just like you lose all gamer cred if you admit you've played---or godforbid own---
MarioParty. Any of them. No matter how much your SO loves it. Or how drunk you
were. When a 'gamer' stands up and notes their love of all things MarioParty, they
effectively Find-ReplaceAll 'G's in their title with 'L's. Ha!

SuperMoogle, you did indeed get my vibe. Poor phraseology? Accuracy in language!
Just like I accuse people of driving ½cylinder Saturns and Geo Metros. Toy cars have
more torque than the SC series!

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And in this discussion, we're forgetting that the votes continue! Now Warcraft is
beating GrandTheftAuto! GTA! It changed gaming as we know it! And Starcraft
4eva (so Warcraft boo!)!


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Mario Party 1 & 2 were good games, so shut up. They're still fun to play with 3 other people to this day.

And again, I'm not surprised by you disagreeing with whatever happens to win, weather it deservess to or not. GTA3 did revolutionize a lot of gaming, but GTA 1 and 2 were mediocre at best, and VC and SA were blatent rehashes that didn't incorperate any new gameplay elements, just a new setting. Warcraft however, really did revolutionize the RTS genre. It was pretty much tghe founding father of the basic formula we see repeated in many modern RTSs, as well as others (including StarCraft). WC 2 was one of the hardest and most strategy intensive games ever, and WC3 brought in a whole new level of player content for B.net with a map editor that didn't suck quite as much as SC's. And WoW is singlehandedly the best MMO on the market. Ask any addict who won't be torn away from their computer so much as there are fish to mine and massive mobs to be a part of.

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Posted: 12th July 2006 02:45

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SuperMoogle, you did indeed get my vibe. Poor phraseology? Accuracy in language!
Just like I accuse people of driving ½cylinder Saturns and Geo Metros. Toy cars have
more torque than the SC series!

In that case, feel free to take everything I said literally. Video games are serious business now, apparently. Did I miss the memo?

If I haven't said this before, I don't really see how some internet poll system on a website validates or offends a person's individual opinions.

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Never been a medieval fan. When Starcarft was released by Blizzard, I felt they
had answered my prayers for deliverance from the regular-fantasy boredom. I'll grant,
though, that the Warcraft series is a fine indication of the level of perfection Blizzard
routinely delivers on their products, although I could never call it home. I play WoW
because of peer pressure. It's as well put-together as any Blizzard product should be,
and unbelievably clever. But I'm still hoping to see Starcraft:Ghost revived, because
the scifi in me is dying to walk in the footsteps of Terran and Protoss heroes---even as
a hot invisible bad-girl, saving the worlds.

I loved GTA1. It was shocking different at the time, when I played. When they added
multiplayer in GTA2, it rocked our LAN for ages. So whatever, llama! You've already
lost all credibility with your MarioParty fanboyitude! tongue.gif

Seriously, people, these are popularity contests: I'm not here to sway your vote.
I'm here to get you interested enough TO vote. I expect there to be some
controversy, but bear in mind that we're all spelunkers in the CavesOfNarshe, not
Lobos and RepoMans clashing around in the MinesOfNarshe. But I'm also 100% in
character, too.

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If I haven't said this before, I don't really see how some internet poll system
on a website validates or offends a person's individual opinions.


Wise words, people. This should be a fun topic, not a flame war.

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Posted: 12th July 2006 04:38

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Well the GTA vs WC was extremly close, but I still have 9/10 correct. I know the masses! /dances a little jig

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I'm still 10/10. Tuesday is the day that the WoW servers close down for maintenance, so there was no way that Warcraft was losing. I think my bracket's pretty solid, but my lack of faith in certain other franchises is probably going to do me in later.

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Posted: 12th July 2006 15:49

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I have 7 at the moment, but 8 tomorrow since Sonic will win today, im happy to See GTA lose the first round, but I goofed up on a few brackets thats why my score is low, whayt is funny is see all the major franchises of today (GTA, Halo, Madden) which sell loads of copies lose in the first round, which is pretty tight.
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