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I realized today that I have never read an EULA...I was wondering if I'm the only one who skips it.

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Wether you read it or not doesn't exempt you from the terms in it; by clicking "I agree" you consciously agree with the terms presented in it just like by signing a contract.

You could very well be agreeing to the deed to your house in exchange for use of the program.

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and the likelyhood of him sharing."

I've never looked at it. That's probably why whenever I open software I think I'll end up incarcerated for some reason.

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Quote (Silverlance @ 1st June 2006 22:11)

Wether you read it or not doesn't exempt you from the terms in it; by clicking "I agree" you consciously agree with the terms presented in it just like by signing a contract.

You could very well be agreeing to the deed to your house in exchange for use of the program.

Except that the contract still wouldn't hold up in court if you were signing away your house. Most of the terms actually in a EULA (like waiving your right to sue the company, etc.) aren't even legally binding--some things you can't give away. And since everyone knows that the EULA are more of a formality than an actual contract that anyone reads, they fall into the coercive contract category that most courts won't uphold.

I read one once. I didn't know what it was talking about.

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I think when I first started to use the computer I would read the agreements, but I of course had no clue what the heck they were talking about and so, consequently stopped reading them.

I usually skim over it if I can be bothered, just to make sure I'm not selling my soul or anything. But they're just so long and boring...

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'Bastards, we may be, but clever are we.'
Thorn, FFIX

I skimmed over it once or twice. Then I found out they were all pretty much the same and ignored it.

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Nine-hundred ninety-nine billion nine-hundered ninety-nine million nine-hundred ninety-nine thousand nine-hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall...

Never.

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Quote (karasuman @ 1st June 2006 20:42)

Except that the contract still wouldn't hold up in court if you were signing away your house.  Most of the terms actually in a EULA (like waiving your right to sue the company, etc.) aren't even legally binding--some things you can't give away.  And since everyone knows that the EULA are more of a formality than an actual contract that anyone reads, they fall into the coercive contract category that most courts won't uphold.

Quoted again for emphasis.

A simple example is signing away your basic human rights. You can't. No contract law nor court of law would accept such a clause (in the First World at least).

There are even EULA's that state upon usage of the CD, or even upon opening the box... things that are required to view the contract, much less sign with a single-button click. I read this article a while back about EULA's. Those aren't small no-name companies telling you things like "Don't criticize us."

Anyhow, I definitely don't read them. Waste of my time.

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Quote (karasuman @ 1st June 2006 23:42)

Except that the contract still wouldn't hold up in court if you were signing away your house.

Obviously not. That was an example, exaggerated for emphasis.

However, the EULA states what is acceptable use of software, and is legally binding in SOME courts. Others will ignore it and defer to state and federal laws regarding software (mis)use, though. Combined with other forms of agreement, it can become a legally binding contract and can be used as support for a case for various copyright infrigement cases.

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Nope, never read one. Well, maybe one line, I'm not really sure.

Nope never read one in my life, but then again i do seem to be missing my soul

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I think I tried to read a whole one once.
It was the nearest I have ever gotten to falling asleep out of sheer boredom.

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Real Life The Webcomic:
Right, fine. Cause in three months when I turn 21, I'll be mature enough to drink a SODA in here

Acorrding to the comic, this actually happened.

I generally read it all, unless I've read that thing before (such as the GNU Public License or whatever that's called).

Some of them are just mainly disclaimers of warranty and say "no duh" things like you can't copy or redistribute this program (for copyrighted programs that you pay for) or if you do, you can't change this program or at least need to give credit where credit is due (for freeware/shareware programs).

Some of them are nasty and say you can't use it on more than one computer at once, but I've never actually encountered a situation where I'd have such a need anyway.

This is because I actually want to have some idea what kind of thing I'm getting myself into. There's been at least once that I decided against using some kind of thing I downloaded because of terms on the contract--but it wasn't something I needed anyway.

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Except that the contract still wouldn't hold up in court if you were signing away your house. Most of the terms actually in a EULA (like waiving your right to sue the company, etc.) aren't even legally binding--some things you can't give away. And since everyone knows that the EULA are more of a formality than an actual contract that anyone reads, they fall into the coercive contract category that most courts won't uphold.

In what country? The USA?

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I never do but after reading this I googled the XP Pro EULA to skim through it and found some lame crap.

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* Installation and use.

You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device("Workstation Computer").

The Product may not be used by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any single Workstation Computer.

You may permit a maximum of ten (10) computers or other electronic devices (each a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer to utilize the services of the Product solely for File and Print services, Internet Information Services, and remote access (including connection sharing and telephony services).

The ten connection maximum includes any indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other software or hardware which pools or aggregates connections.

Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the Product to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate license for the Product.

AKA ~ Limitations

You can't use this product on more than 10 workstations at a time and if you use Remote Desktop then you can't use your programs through the computer you are using unless that computer has the license agreed to it.



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Quote (Bane King @ 6th June 2006 07:38)

AKA ~ Limitations

You can't use this product on more than 10 workstations at a time and if you use Remote Desktop then you can't use your programs through the computer you are using unless that computer has the license agreed to it.

Actually, that's a limitation on how many computers a single 'workstation' OS can serve. It sends a clear message that XP Workstations cannot duplicate functionality of Windows Server (NT, 2003).

This is usually a limitation you'll encounter in the workplace when doing automated hardware testing.

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Visions of Peace - Four Generals, One Empire, and the Returners caught in the middle.

They all say about the same thing. I read it once or twice, that's all.

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Dead Winter. A nice comic.

I skim thru it when i play WoW, due to excessive updates in part of blizzard, so i consistently scroll thru them alot.

Quote (GamblingCat @ 6th July 2006 15:33)

I skim thru it when i play WoW, due to excessive updates in part of blizzard, so i consistently scroll thru them alot.

Yeah ever since I played WoW I started to scroll down the whole thing, so if i'm about to play a cool game it wouldn't say Please Read EULA
It wouldn't say that, but it depends on what your talking about, well it might sometimes. But WoW/Blizzard expects you to read it so you have to scroll down.
I haven't come across any other EULA's that require you to scroll down but WoW but i still do it.

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Arthas:Shut up you damned ghost.

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